Jaydogrules

Well, no. I think the point of the article and what makes the quote noteworthy is that Kevin Feige- the guy who runs Marvel's movie division and has overseen the development of the modern superhero movie that we have today (you're welcome DC), gushes for Spider-Man. Calls him the jewel of their crown. The best hero ever created. He has never said that about Iron Man, Hulk, not even Captain America. He said it about Spider-Man. A character whose rights Marvel still, sadly, does not even completely own. So next time you wonder how much potential remains for the character, his extended universe, his many, many spin-off characters and villains to get huge- and by extension, AF 15, the book where it all started- just remember how Kevin Feige said he feels about the character. -J.

Probably one of (if not the most) important pages ever printed in a Batman comic, but I was still surprised to see what's basically a portion of a page go for this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-GOLDEN-AGE-DETECTIVE-COMICS-33-SPLASH-PAGE-BATMAN-/252964205753?hash=item3ae5d774b9%3Ag%3AMUEAAOSwH09ZLITI&nma=true&si=iFZRySQ5y%2FIXXG0HfR%2Fz791DLhQ%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 -J.

There is nothing I have found to be more fruitless (and pointless) on these boards than going into a dedicated thread for a particular book, for the sole purpose of saying how much I "don't like" it or to whine about what it sells for. There should be plenty of other books out there for you to talk about that you either own, make you smile, and/or don't bother you for some peculiar reason. -J.

Pass the ganja. -J.

Blah blah blah. Why has AF (continued) to explode in value? Quite simply, this: http://screenrant.com/spider-man-kevin-feige-greatest-superhero/ Required reading from now on everytime AF 15 prices scale new heights. Now go away naysayers. -J.

Still doesn't mean the seller actually sent the book out and followed through with the transaction. And the prospective seller certainly could not have received a cleared money wire, and then sent the book out to Josh, and then received and QC'd by Josh in the time frame that the listing appeared as "pending" and was then poofed (literally, barely one business day). There aren't "many reasons" why the listing disappeared so quickly. There are, in fact, just three- the sale went through, the sale fell through, (and the least plausible one) "Josh thought it would reflect badly on his business". Two of the three assume the sale went through. But in the time that elapsed, that is not possible. Which leaves the most likely reason being that the sale fell though (for whatever reason, be it seller's remorse, bogus listing, etc.). Just following the obvious logic here. Maybe the seller is the one who ended up not being the dummy (assuming the listing was even legit to begin with). -J.

I don't know if comiclink would even say. But that 0.5 copy from a couple of months ago is still up. I'm not even looking at what the possible seller did. I'm looking at what comiclink did based on my experiences with their company policy. They would not take down a "pending listing", even at the request of the buyer, unless the deal actually closed, or the seller backed out, or yes, maybe it was just a bogus listing to begin with. And since there's no way the sale closed that fast that leaves only the other two possibilities. -J.

No. See my post above. If it was an auction and comiclink had the book in hand yes they will do that if the buyer has paid. But this was an exchange sale. The seller can "accept" an offer and then never send the book to comiclink. Which is what I suspect happened here. -J.

Nope. Comiclink wouldn't have taken it down that fast. No chance. Only way that happens (unless they be changed their policy in the last 3 months since I bought something from the exchange) is the seller bailed on the deal. -J.

Just saw it. Decent for a DC movie. Definitely not as good as Nolan's first two Batman movies. Too much slow motion in the action scenes. Movie felt disjointed as they hopscotched from villain to villain, and it would have been better if it was 45 minutes shorter. The movie did not need to be that long. Wonder Woman being essentially invincible takes all the stakes and drama out of her fight scenes. All in all a nice improvement over DC's other recent efforts. But the bar was so low for this that I think most people think it is much better than it really is. It really is a 6 of 10 at best. DC should also thank Marvel, because without Captain America The First Avenger and Thor, this movie evidently would not have been possible. -J.

Indeed. I have asked comiclink to take down "pending" listings myself in the last but they only did it on auction listings where they do have the book in hand already, and after my money cleared. The only other time I could see them pulling it that fast (literally, like a day) on the exchange is if the seller contacted them and said "Yeah, I accepted an offer, but you know what, sorry, I've changed my mind". They don't take down pending listings before, at least, they have the book in hand, and they did not have that book in hand. -J.

This still seems less likely to me than the seller just pulling the plug, for the simple reason that Comiclink hasn't even had a chance to get the book from the seller yet, let alone the buyer from Comiclink. There just wasn't enough time for that sale to have consummated (and that's assuming the listing was pulled today, we just noticed it today, it may have been poofed Friday). -J.

They don't have the books in hand for exchange sales usually. Someone makes the offer the seller accepts then they have to actually send the book to comiclink who then sends it to the buyer. What would the recourse be if someone is stricken with seller's remorse and just didn't send the book ? Maybe comiclink just cancels their account and doesn't take books on the exchange from them anymore... -J.

What happens when the seller backs out ? Anarchy ? -J.

Agreed. Variants need to have their own discussion. Comparing the star wars 35 cents variant to a hulk 181 is like comparing the ASM 667 variant to Nyx 3 in the modern age and touting how much more valuable the 667 is. They're just two different conversations. And yes, looking at one sale of one grade of cerebus 1 and proclaiming it more valuable than hulk 181 based on that is silly. -J.

True. Without additional info I might give even odds to the seller backing out (maybe after reading the comments on these boards even) and it closing on comiclink and them immediately removing it (something they don't typically do). -J.

But did it actually happen? -J.

Then why post it at all? I'm sure they're smart enough to know that was up to $100k under FMV. -J.

Interesting that the 6.5 that was on comiclink has already been taken down. I wonder if something happened with the sale. Like the seller backing out.... Meanwhile the restored 0.5 that sold a couple months ago is still there. -J.

This assumes too much. The fact of the matter is that a 9.4 cerebus came to market, top of the census copy, and didn't exactly set the world on fire. If anything there should have been some crazy upward pressure on something like that, if there was a real demand for it. But the demand for the book is weak, even in its top grade, even after years and years between sales. You can speak for yourself but no, I don't think very many dealers would go $9k balls deep on a cerebus 1 and then sit around and hope to sell it at some point in the distant future, maybe for a small profit, but probably at a loss just to get rid of it. I don't know many dealers that like to sit on inventory for long periods of time, which is exactly what would happen since cerebus 1 is the exact opposite of a liquid book. Back to the apples and apples comparison- as I cited above, hulk 181 has surpassed cerebus 1 in a 9.0. I can only speculate on what a cerebus 1 would someday sell for in a 9.2 but it would be lucky to crack 4k- something hulk 181 has done consistently in a 9.2. So no, cerebus 1 is not more valuable than hulk 181. This conversation is borderline laughable. -J.

A lot of people just don't bid in "reserve" auctions on principle. -J.

Wait. Not so fast. A 9.2 Hulk 181 just sold for $4500. $9k for a 1 of 2 top of the census copy 9.4 cerebus 1 is nothing all that great to write home about really. Usually top of the census copies are a 9.8. Usually the next lowest grade is 9.6. For cerebus 1 the top is 9.4. The second highest is then 9.2. The multiplier in value from a 9.6 to a 9.8 is usually about 2X. If we leveled the playing field between the books based on census population (and let's face it, you are being completely disnegenous if you don't do that), we would expect a Cerberus 9.2 to have an "at best" FMV of $4500. Do I think a 9.2 would actually sell for that ? Hell no. At least not without sitting a good long time. Would one move for $3500? Probably. But if it was sitting next to 10 Hulk 9.2, 181's at a convention for the same price, how many Hulk 181's would you expect would sell before that one random niche collector strolls around to look at the cerebus? Probably all 10 of the 181s would sell first. Or at least most of them. And whereas hulk 181 has always spanked cerebus 1 in every grade below 9.0, guess what has happened to the 9.0 181's since this thread was started? They now sell for a comparable amount of what cerebus 1 sells for in a 9.0, and more Meanwhile, pitifully, a 9.0 cerebus 1 SS file copy you name it, just went for $3600 in April 2017- a mere $1300 more than the last copy that sold for nearly three years ago. (and keep in mind that there are only five copies of that in that grade in SS.) So is cerebus 1 "really" worth more than a hulk 181, even in a 9.2? No. Not in the real world anyway. -J.

They're all American creations regardless. I'm not sure the literal name of these characters has any affect on the "cool factor" on a national or international level, and they all are kind of silly and juvenile sounding when you really think about it. Right now, Batman, iron man, Spider-Man, Captain America, Wolverine, Deadpool are "cool". This is what the next gen collectors will chase. Superman, while iconic, hasn't been "cool" for a very long time. Since Cap is the only GA character from that group that isn't Batman, and Marvel/Disney (a global company) owns the rights without any legal entanglements, it isn't hard to fathom his book catching/ overtaking Superman 1 eventually. It really just isn't. -J.

That question (if it was a question) is already answered by Cap's connection to the Avengers and the fact that he is Marvel's only real (or most significant) GA holdover, whereas DC has multiple GA holdovers. -J.

Solid arguments but there is just far more upside in Cap 1, even accounting for its surge. -J.