Jaydogrules

If you plug in the item # on watch count (in the keyword search box), then it should say "Sold for ______". Sometimes that doesn't work, and you have to click the link that says "check price here on eBay" or "History" and it will take you to the U.K. eBay site which shows the offers/final price. Watch count is helpful for current BIN/Make Offer listings too, because you can see the offers (if any) that have been made/declined. Definitely a useful tool. Thanks Action252kid. I can see it now. Definitely a great tool to have. I wish I knew about this site before Uh....you're welcome? -J.

We were talking at the shop today about what would happen to FF1 the moment it was announced that Marvel had them back. Nice book. And yes, but the book is still expensive even with the title completely in the doldrums. -J.

Hi gator. These are the two copies on ebay that just sold for the $17k+. This one has a big chunk out of the lower left hand front cover - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Fantasy-15-CGC-4-0-1st-Spiderman-/141687139294?hash=item20fd362bde And this one has marvel chipping- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Fantasy-15-Aug-1962-CGC-Grade-4-0-1st-Spiderman-/261972342242?hash=item3cfec4b5e2 I'm inclined to agree with dem, there does seem to be some randomness to these results. Buyers just seem to be paying whatever they see fit to pay for whatever copy that they like. -J. The problem with those buy it now or best offer auctions is that we do not know for sure how much they sold for because ebay does not give us the actual sale price. It could be someone bought it for the buy it now price or maybe the seller took it for $15k. Who knows.. I tend to side that 4.0's are worth in the $16k-$18k range depending on eye appeal. Both of those sold for those prices. As also reported to and by GPA. -J. Ok well if GPA reported then those are what it sold for. Just saying in general we do not know what anything would sell for if buy it now or best offer auctions unless reported. You can also see accepted "best offers" here: http://www.watchcount.com/ -J.

Hi gator. These are the two copies on ebay that just sold for the $17k+. This one has a big chunk out of the lower left hand front cover - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Fantasy-15-CGC-4-0-1st-Spiderman-/141687139294?hash=item20fd362bde And this one has marvel chipping- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Fantasy-15-Aug-1962-CGC-Grade-4-0-1st-Spiderman-/261972342242?hash=item3cfec4b5e2 I'm inclined to agree with dem, there does seem to be some randomness to these results. Buyers just seem to be paying whatever they see fit to pay for whatever copy that they like. -J. The problem with those buy it now or best offer auctions is that we do not know for sure how much they sold for because ebay does not give us the actual sale price. It could be someone bought it for the buy it now price or maybe the seller took it for $15k. Who knows.. I tend to side that 4.0's are worth in the $16k-$18k range depending on eye appeal. Both of those sold for those prices. As also reported to and by GPA. -J.

Hi gator. These are the two copies on ebay that just sold for the $17k+. This one has a big chunk out of the lower left hand front cover - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Fantasy-15-CGC-4-0-1st-Spiderman-/141687139294?hash=item20fd362bde And this one has marvel chipping- http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Fantasy-15-Aug-1962-CGC-Grade-4-0-1st-Spiderman-/261972342242?hash=item3cfec4b5e2 I'm inclined to agree with dem, there does seem to be some randomness to these results. Buyers just seem to be paying whatever they see fit to pay for whatever copy that they like. -J.

Even those have cracked $2k earlier this year. -J.

The 7.0 finished at $48.5k, which would have been a GPA high but for a copy that sold for $53k three years ago, that appears to have been CPR'd since. I actually think the last couple of AF 15 results on C link have been a bit soft. -J.

Its all about good eye appeal! But the 5.5 had chipping too, so the difference between a 5.5 and a 6.0 is only $2000? Again, tough to make any sense of pricing on this book. Definitely not a book you can consistently say is $xK/point like a lot of other keys. At least one of the 4.0's that sold for $17k had chipping also. -J.

+1 -J.

I was thinking the same thing. That price is pretty much right at the 12 month average. Those two sales for $17k do seem kind of randomly high. I suppose we'll have to see what the next 4.0 goes for. -J.

With all the photos I took of Gambit in X-Men Annual #14, it's clear there was more than a cameo. It's the lack of focus on him other than background dressing that takes away from an easy agreement it is a full appearance book. Meanwhile, I have them both. So it is totally okay! The cover text of UXM 266 makes it pretty clear that it is intended to be his flashy and official first full introduction. We are talking about artifacts that tell "stories" and contextual/substantive first appearances do, always have, and always will have more relevance and significance in this hobby than quickie cameos, teases, etc. The current labeling notations are fine with me. -J. Classic JayDog response . . . he never admits he's wrong, even in the face of it. How's that ? I literally posted twice in this thread (this is the third)- one of which where I agreed with the labeling. -J.

Very nice congratulations. Looks great in the slab. Jaydogrules for the win on accurately predicting the grade as well. -J.

With all the photos I took of Gambit in X-Men Annual #14, it's clear there was more than a cameo. It's the lack of focus on him other than background dressing that takes away from an easy agreement it is a full appearance book. Meanwhile, I have them both. So it is totally okay! The cover text of UXM 266 makes it pretty clear that it is intended to be his flashy and official first full introduction. We are talking about artifacts that tell "stories" and contextual/substantive first appearances do, always have, and always will have more relevance and significance in this hobby than quickie cameos, teases, etc. The current labeling notations are fine with me. -J.

I like that description much better. They mustve read this thread and copied and paste its title I gave a quick phone call to CBCS to make them aware of this thread. Then, after about four more phone calls, they begged me to let them get back to work. So finally Borock says, 'What's it going to take to make it stop?' And that's when I said, 'About that label...' But I have to say, '1st published appearance...' is not a bad compromise. There is no question X-Men Annual #14 hit the market first. Though why is the difference of opinion. So what do they use for Uncanny X-Men #266? The phrasing of this tells me that although X-men annual 14 may have been published first, they are acknowledging that the appearance may not be (or is not) his canonical "first appearance". -J.

A 9.2 went for $2k earlier this year. -J.

Not bad. Not sure how I missed that one. -J.

What are the print runs on those? I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely curious Print runs don't mean much when there's 150+ copies of something for sale at one time on a single venue. -J.

Congrats! -J.

Agreed! But this isn't the BA 12 thread. -J.

Don't hate the playa, hate the game. Back on topic, this guy listed his SS 9.8 for about a day before he ended the listing. Perhaps an off eBay deal happened? http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMAZING-SPIDER-MAN-678-MARY-JANE-VENOM-VARIANT-CGC-9-8-SIG-SERIES-DAN-SLOTT-/231685897538?hash=item35f18e3d42 -J.

60 copies of the Gwenpool variant? I was thinking IH 181. Something you know that will increase and hold value. what happens when the market crashes? Or just slows down. It doesn't need to crash. 4 years of data is nothing unless you are saying it will hold value over the next year. Maybe that's part of the problem with these threads. Some look only at the next couple of years and others look more long term. ...and some just enjoy owning their books and see massive and sustained price gains as just a happy bonus. And thank goodness plenty of folks love their ultra rare Spidey books.. -J -J.

There's definitely not "tons" of them out there, not even half a ton Agreed. I'm still putting the print run/distribution at about 500, though with the run up in prices more copies hit the market which temporarily increased its availability. And while like most books in the CGC era, there is quite evidently a "9.8" premium for the book, 9.6's seem to have settled into a 1600-1700 range, and $1500 for a 9.2 is nothing to sneeze at either. -J.

We'd have to determine the total amount of a print run that was distributed through Stars & Stripes and AAFES stores, so that number never seemed entirely out of line. That would only be 10,000 copies of a 200,000 print run for example. That less than 5% of your books have inserts might be more a result of your geography than anything else. If you lived near Fort Hood, Fort Bragg, or a large base in Germany I'd suspect you'd see a percentage greater than 5% of books that had inserts. That's a reasonable guess, but my books have come from every area of the country. Granted, those are anecdotal numbers, but....when you consider that roughly 1.5% of the total US population served in the military during the Vietnam era (and drastically fell off with the end of the draft in 1973), it seems odd that they would print 4-10 times that amount, as a percentage of total copies printed, for distribution to military bases. (Source: http://www.prb.org/source/acf1396.pdf Page 5, figure 1) As well....during this time period, 200,000 was a very low amount of copies printed. Hulk, for example, had a print run of about 375,000 copies, with around 200,000 sold on average, during 1974. 5% of the total print run doesn't seem reasonable, against a group that only represented .5-1.5% of the total US population. That would make around 20,000 copies of Hulk #187, for example. For total numbers of potential customers at an exchange store you would also need to include eligible family members and retirees, and DoD employed civilians. Sorry for coming in late to the conversation. While it is probably fun to speculate I don't think anyone could put a number on the percentage of comics with the MJ insert. You could probably boost the number a tad since some German dealers/collectors were sold comics after they were taken off the racks of Stars and Stripes stores. Hence why I have like a dozen copies of X-Men 242 still in my collection that I bought from a German dealer in 2003. Also, no direct market comics have the insert unless it's was an error in distributing. Jim I just wanted to thank you for all of your diligent and thorough research into the NDS/MJ inserts. Your site has been referenced numerous times as an authority and has raised the general collecting community's awareness about these cool and rare "variants". Kudos and thanks again! (thumbs u -J.

60 copies of the Gwenpool variant? I was thinking IH 181. Something you know that will increase and hold value. what happens when the market crashes? Or just slows down. It doesn't need to crash. 4 years of data is nothing unless you are saying it will hold value over the next year. Maybe that's part of the problem with these threads. Some look only at the next couple of years and others look more long term. ...and some just enjoy owning their books and see massive and sustained price gains as just a happy bonus. And thank goodness plenty of folks love their ultra rare Spidey books.. -J

60 copies of the Gwenpool variant? I was thinking IH 181. Something you know that will increase and hold value. Four years and counting. -J.