ygogolak

Yes

Looks like 156,000 to me, from comics that I personally wouldn't even bother reading. The only character(s) that really approach that on an annual basis is Batman and many would agree that the story arcs and artwork have been great.

The question is, are the movies bringing in new readers? Can we say yes to that? Not so sure Not new readers,but new fans. What`s more important? 70,000 people reading Avengers or Avengers doing over 1 billion at the box office? 60,000 people reading Snyder`s Batman or 4 million people buying the Batman video game about Arkham Asylum? 20,000 readers reading Green Arrow or millions watching Arrow? Marvel and DC are now entertainment companies first,than comic book companies second. The game has changed and there is no going back. Yes, but we're talking about readership here. Are movies bringing in new readers? I don't think so. ygogolak seems to think the movies are bringing in new readers, despite low print runs. Now you are just flat out misquoting me.

You're not looking at it the same way I was. I'm not talking a direct correlation between Avengers movie and a comic book (which comic btw, there are about 10+ Avengers titles at any given time?). What I saying about movies AND TV, is that it's cool to read comics now / again and that brings more people into stores and shows. Also, cosplay is a big thing now and that brings more people to shows, who may or may not buy some comics. Spider-Man has definitely lost some readership because of how it has been handled over the past 5-10 years, while companies like Image have grown in terms of titles from the way they have done things.

Has there been a turn around? Last I knew print runs were miniscule compared to high points. Is electronic readership making up the difference? What "high points" are you speaking of, early 90's? Because it dipped drastically after that you realize. The movie era has brought it back. Also, print run does not equate to readership. There have been many high points. The early 90s is merely one of them. There have also been periods where maybe print runs were higher than they are today but not at historic highs. That's why I asked if electronic readership is taking some of that away from print? Is that being captured in some way? Chuck brings up a good point about TPBs. How do we know how many people are reading in whatever form the comic is presented? Obviously, we have print run figures. What else do we have? Electronic readership is tough to track. It is the same with music, TV, movies, etc.. because of illegal downloads. There are a limited number of sites to pay for electronic downloads, so I would think it would feasible to track, but I don't think any one company is tracking it. There have been some dealers on the boards that have claimed they see more people and different audiences than there has been historically coming into their shops and at shows. It's really all guesswork, but I would not say that readership is "down" since the new genre of successful movie and TV properties.

Has there been a turn around? Last I knew print runs were miniscule compared to high points. Is electronic readership making up the difference? What "high points" are you speaking of, early 90's? Because it dipped drastically after that you realize. The movie era has brought it back. Also, print run does not equate to readership.

Shrinking readership?

The garage sales/flea markets/antique malls I go to never have books like that... Yea, usually a lead on an old Spidey goes like this: Yea, I have some really old Spider-Mans! The dates and issue numbers look like they were some of the first made! Then I show up to this:

WTF! WOW!

Last set sold for $47.

Looks like it was just a bidding war. Could have got 1-14 for that price: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Image-Comics-Outcast-1-14-Robert-Kirkman-All-1st-Printings-NM-/141877875776?hash=item2108949440:g:W-kAAOSwYIhWlDlE

WOW

Tough to find. I haven't seen one in about two years of looking. I sold all of my copies in the $30-40 range. At least I found a copy of the Hughes Harley #1 sitting in a box that I did not sell too early..... I would have sold it for that too. Definitely underestimated this one.

Another 1:25 that's going crazy. Stole this from the JSC thread: Deadpool vs. X-Force #1 JSC Variant

I've read multiple people saying this is a good story. But, it had also been optioned at one point. Still need to read it, there are just so many good stories that I need to catch up on!

ASM #121

Looks like the Spider-Man 2099 #4 Deadpool Variant swipe of ASM #129 is the winner for the Deadpool month variants. Spider-Man 2099 #4 Deadpool Variant

You would have had to spend a minimum of $375 at Game Stop to get enough points to qualify for the Deadpool comic. $50 doesn't seem out of line.

Quality is definitely important, but it does not always equate to an associated value. I bet there are some good story arcs that you could pluck out of $0.25 bin in every shop across the country.

I completely forgot about that comic. I read the first issue and liked it and didn't pick another one up. I also like East of West. There are a lot of #1's out there for an Image title and I don't think it's as easy of a read and comprehension as Saga. Deadly Class I liked and could easily see that coming to TV or a movie.

This says it all. This specific thread is about value speculation. I think we can say that many books don't fall into the "I've read that" category. There are plenty of threads praising comics and stories that people like, gasp... just for the story. If you can spot quality, you may easily be able to pick up books cheaply while the fan base develops. Reading the books is an important part to any speculative approach. This is reason many people smart people were buying Saga #1 when it was $20 raw or $100 in CGC 9.8. Yes, and the same with We Can Never Go Home. How about Manifest Destiny, Rat Queens, etc... I guess I was thinking of this thread as more of a, "this is going to heat up in a week" type of speculation. As I said, there are plenty of great stories, but that doesn't mean they will hold value. Saga gained value because after a while it became more widely known that it was a great story AND supply outweighed demand. It doesn't hurt that the art is great as well, at least IMO, and she wasn't know nearly as well as she is now. So what I'm saying, is that it's easy to cherry pick Saga as a value increase due to only story, but what about something like We Stand on Guard, or Paper Girls, can't miss, right? but people say it coming and were hoping for another Saga. I still think the 2014 Ms. Marvel and Moon Knight series's were both classics for their own reasons. Not sure they will increase much at this point though.

This says it all. This specific thread is about value speculation. I think we can say that many books don't fall into the "I've read that" category. There are plenty of threads praising comics and stories that people like, gasp... just for the story.

Hmm, thought he bulked up for his role too, been hitting the weights hard.

I think someone mentioned these a while back. They have always sold well and are not easily found.