Crowzilla

You guys are crushing me. I've had an Unlimited Value submission in scheduled for grading since 10/10

You don't need bleed through to have color touch, but I thought it was very obvious in the blue on the front cover. Back cover I would want to see in hand, but I suspect it there also.

Does the color touch affect the value of something like this, or would any coverless copy this was married to already get a purple label?

Fantazia had several of those...

Since there are 77 graded Action 1s, and only four pedigree Action 1s, doesn't the law of numbers mean that that there will be more nicer non-peds than peds? If we accept that the Church is the nicest, that means that half of the top six are peds. So 78 copies of Action 1 (77 graded and the Church) and the 5% of those we call pedigrees are the nicest known and half of the six nicest known. Pretty solid numbers if you ask me.

The Larson is one of the 8.5s on the census

You are wrong, it was just the 1 for $25K, then the 2-10 for a similar price. Snyder bought the run from Rozanski for $50K total (for Anderson) back when Chuck was limiting sales to that amount to anyone (he would go down a list and call saying would you like to buy $50K of Mile Highs this year). Snyder was high on the list as a previous buyer and Anderson talked him into going after the Actions for him which he then sold/traded to Anderson for a small profit.

Where's the key? Behind the Boy Commandos #1?

How long ago is "wasn't long ago"? I was getting 1.5-2.0x guide for Wonder Woman #1s in the 90s and that multiple seems to have held long before a movie was in the works.

It had about a 2" split when I owned it in the mid 90s, so definitely grew some before it finally got put in a holder.

I owned it when it was raw, was very surprised to see it only get an 8.5 the first time it was graded. But I guess even back then, CGC knew what grades to give to get maximum resubs.

Oh sure, now you show up That bottom pic was from the first time I had ever set up at San Diego - I was 23 and wanted to make a good impression with all the West Coast collectors. Hope it worked. Guess it didn't...

I've never understood the un-love for Funnies on Parade. It's the first comic book, what more does it need to do to get people interested? As you said, it's pretty darn hard to come by and almost never surfaces for sale. The one copy I ever had for sale (way back in the prehistoric 90s), got lots of oohs and aahs, but took forever to find a buyer - even though it was unrestored and priced below $1,000. It looks like Overstreet has stopped even trying to give it an obligatory $100 yearly bump or anything, as the VF price in the guide last year is the same as it was a decade ago.

I think $50K has to be considered the minimum for any complete Bat 1, as the break-up value to sell it in pieces is above that now.

thank you, wasn't even thinking about Feature Book, but that makes perfect sense.

So you've got The Funnies #31, Single Series #5, Star Comics V2/4, Jumbo #8, All American #3, Detective #27, xx, xx(Gang Busters?), xx, xx, and Comics on Parade #14

You're correct my bad. I should have stated more clearly that that the 8 titles "limit" wasn't in force during the Marvel superhero titles age (and if there was some "limit" above 8, we have no idea what it was, just the fact that every year after 1960, the average number of titles increased until distributors were changed). It is a fact that for the time period you mentioned, Marvel averaged 8 titles per month, and I have no idea if IN limited him or not during that time period, so thank you for the correction.

Yes, but the original post was talking about during the superhero-era and the oft-reported "fact" that the reason for the split books (Tales of Suspense, Tales to Astonish, Strange Tales) and no Cap title of his own, was that Marvel was only allowed to publish eight titles up until 1968, when clearly that isn't true a half decade earlier.

Look at Marvel's December 1963 output (again thanks for Price Namor for this): December 2nd, 1963: Journey Into Mystery #101, Kathy #27, Modeling with Millie #29, Patsy Walker #113, Tales to Astonish #53, Two Gun Kid #68 December 9th, 1963: Amazing Spider-man #10, Fantastic Four #24, Kid Colt Outlaw #115, Millie the Model #119, Strange Tales #118. Tales of Suspense #51 That's 12 titles and they aren't even doing Avengers and X-Men yet.

This has been debunked many times, most recently in Prince Namor's excellent thread entitled "Stan, Jack, and Steve - The 1960's (1963) Butting Heads, Unexpected Success and Not Expected Failures!" which clearly shows that even in the early 60s Marvel was publishing 11+ titles per month, and that Independent News didn't give Goodman restrictions on how many titles they could publish.

Why is this incorrect? There are no recent Bat #121 sales in 9.2 to compare, but the last 9.0 sold for $28,750 in 2022, and an 8.5 sold for $15,600 in November of 2022. Spidey #14 sales in 9.0 show at $15,000 and even in the 2021 highs it never topped $18,000, while in 8.5 it sold for $8500. Green Lantern #1 had a 9.2 sale in Sep 2022 for $24,000 and Spidey 14 most recent sale in that grade was $23,400 (up substantially from the April sale of $17,400 but still below the GL level). From data it appears that the NM- price in Overstreet is correct as it relates to those three books. If you want to argue that in lower grades Spidey #14 sells for a higher price, that is a different story, as the chart is for NM- grades (but I think Bat 121 beats Spidey 14 in equal grades at all levels, probably not so much for GL 1)

Definitely the original poster cherry picked data points to support his contention. No other Flash 105 has sold since Dec 2020, and the most recent high grade sale as a 9.2 for $48,000 in Nov 2022. Meanwhile DD #1 in 9.4 has a most recent sale of $45,600 in that same month of Nov 2022, and 9.2 copies have sold for $34,800 and $30,300. I think there is a reasonably strong evidence that if a Flash #105 in 9.4 came to market it would beat the current prices for a Daredevil #1 in the same grade.

That Amazing Mystery Funnies nn is is pretty wowzers. Definitely the rarest of any of the books posted so far, and it's the highest graded (at 3.5), should cause quite a stir with the Centaur collectors.

It was purchased by Marvel.