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this is what got me    - the COVER TRIMMED    in the pedigree location......

So far - pulled and priced 1500 new books for the show - gonna keep plugging as I want to get as much of the value stock there as I can. This is a medium show - not the pomp of WW or C2E2 - but much larger than a hotel hall or VFW ( last year 6000 people through the door).  The time frame is much better this year too - the show used to be the week after WW....

They are letting any vendor open Friday night this year - last year it was limited to only about 10 of us. They are running a costume party - so not the best lighting for comic hunting, but will be the best time to scrounge for the hidden gems.

Guest list to date -

Riki ‘Riddle’ Lecotey
World-renowned Cosplayer

Vincent Proce
Magic the Gathering, Mortal Kombat, Animaniacs

Philo Barnhart
Little Mermaid, Secret of NIMH, Smurfs

Ashley Witter
Squarriors, Scorch, Star Wars (she recently was awarded the Doctor Aphra 14 cover)

Jeffrey Moy
Gen 13, Legionnaires, Micronauts

Topper Helmers
X-Men Animated Series, Walt Disney Imagineer

Jon Parrish
ClusterF@#k, Secrets & Shadows
 

D.B. Stanley
Lord of Gore

Jai Nitz
Suicide Squad, Tron, Adventure Time

Jim Nelson
Hearthstone, Magic the Gathering,
Skylanders

Charles Moisant
Mystery Manor, Zombie Annihilation

Ash Maczko
Squarriors, Squarriors: The Card Game

Philip Moy
Powerpuff Girls, G.I. Joe, Star Trek

Ali Cantarella
The Hasty Pastry

Mark McHaley
X Files, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings

Kelly Williams
Eerie, Creepy, The Dark, Metaphase

Patrick Trahey
Sol Comics, The XII

Jennifer Cihi
Sailor Moon, Nickelodeon’s Roadhouse

Scary Lady Sarah
Nocturna

Bill Reinhold
Punisher, Batman, The Badger

Linda Reinhold
Fantastic Four, Conan, Spider-man

Dan Leister
Hack/Slash, Lord of Gore

Jeffrey Butler
Green Hornet, Hercules, Jurassic Park

Russell Lissau
The Batman Strikes, Old Wounds

Hilary Barta
Simpsons, Spongebob, The Thing

appears to be the infamous - "cover trimmed" pedigree.....

( it is actually listed as the pedigree) .....

should be purple label..... obvious QC error....

1 hour ago, Bomber-Bob said:

I think it will modestly be taken into consideration by the graders, however, I do not think they will be 'hammered'.

THANKS - Just so much easier when it is like AJD's example, lol.... that full bloom tanning is something I would not expect in any higher grade book ( and I hammer that  when I grade) --- just such a FMV drop for these if many of the "9.4" candidates drop to a 9.0 ( or lower)..... and I like to do my homework when I am not sure...

10 minutes ago, comicquant said:

I submitted an ASM #46 not long ago (got it back in August) with the exact same tanning scenario.  Nothing on the front cover but light tanning on the interior cover.  When I sent it in I thought it was an 8.5 not taking the tanning into account.  It came back an 8.5 so I feel like it won't be hit too hard by graders. But I've been wrong before (once).

thx - I have not gone through the whole lot - and I think this is one of the worst ones. Have to re-check overstreet when I get home - but I believe their general notes do not give me enough detail to be sure. More overall page quality - and not this...  ( and their examples are cover pics - not interior pics, lol).

The seller is saying close to the same thing - that the color alone is not as important as the page quality ( and I have seen CR-OW 9.6 CGC books) - while I generally agree ( and feel it is a buyers preference for this kind of issue) , I usually do not get the hi grade silvers in so seeing this worries me, - and want to be more confident as there is a huge difference in 9.2/9.4 and 8/8.5

quick edit/question - did they mention the tanning in the graders notes????

Purchased some "hi grade" silver books - on many, the exterior.

This was an ebay purchase - I am protected if I want to return - but I would like to know more about this defect to see if we can work something out without the hassle.

Exterior - no sign of tanning. Interior - the start of a tan window.  Books are supposedly 9.2/9.4 - and on the outside do seem to be in that range. Pages are all supple - so the very worst of them might be CR-OW.

How bad is this? looking for general feel of how CGC may or may not hammer the grade.....

On 9/17/2017 at 6:57 PM, wormboy said:

Actually, now that I'm messing with this slab some more, it seems like only the sides are sealed (no room to get my fingernail in there - maybe glued?).

 

Sonic welded - basically using directed acoustical vibrations to melt the two pieces of plastic together. Very strong if properly done.

also - why press a signed book? -- if the plan is to slab them - they will come back with a green label - not a signature series label. SS labels - require a witnessed sig....

what did grader notes say ?

1st time submissions are really eye openers for many........ were the other books also damaged during shipping???

I am there for my 3rd year!

It is a really fun show - a mixed bag for comics. They get a large amount of people through the doors - but I have not seen that many big $$$ buyers there. Past 2 years - they have set up the week after wizard world - so understandable that a lot of $$$ is sucked out of the area.

My first year - I was the only one there with slabs ( though a couple of people had some nice higher value books).  Last year - maybe 2 of us ( another boardie lurker was there).  Sold a few of the lower value ones last year - had some bigger books under lock and key  (golden age and high grade silver) - that got a look or two, but not even a nibble of an offer ( and some were very reasonably priced). 

There are also many of the "non comics" booths set up. 

definitely a great value for the price.

Some one asked me last year about any facilitators - have not seen anything with respect to CGC . The  guest list - is always interesting, but not the big hitter names that would will have a need for CGC to be there ( though I see that voldy is setting up something).

Success rate - may be based on what you bring and the price. One of the larger local stores ( dreamland) - brought in mostly pops, and their manager said they did their best show ever. Pops... ( they had a huge selection and commons were likely discounted)....

Hopefully the timing between WW and this - work out well this year for drawing in more collectors. My main goal is moving as much of the bulk low end out the door, but it helps to have people buying the bigger ticket items as well......

Stop by and say hi!  Heck --- any boardies -- the same - CGCers get the "Sunday evening" discount pretty much anytime.

1 hour ago, 1Cool said:

Glad you liked them.  I really liked the red Steranko signature in the folio.

Was saving the best for last.......  and man - trying to post images with a phone is   -- tried to edit out the extra shots about 5 times from my post - no luck...

also included,,,,,,,,

Thanks @1Cool

15 hours ago, Senormac said:

Someday.... us slab collectors are going to be really old, and our books are going to hit the market.... and it will be dubbed "The Greggy Collection".....  "the Straw man Collection"   etc. .....  

" The w16227 box-o-drek"

my one and only......

6 minutes ago, StingerMcK said:

Sensation Comics #35
Universal  3.5
WHITE     

Tape on cover.     

Sargon the Sorcerer story.

medium crease right bottom of front cover
stain back cover
tape cover

$300 Shipped

19 hours ago, kav said:

I threw in a bonus book also-it's either an AF15 or something else....

Action Force?

1 minute ago, Red84 said:

2 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said:

What happened?

Ron C had offerred to change his offered prize then realized it would be unfair to those who already picked.  It was a nice thought and Ron realized it was better to leave his prize offer as is.

His listed prize - IMO - is better than what he added as the alternate anyway ---- 

FYI - the xmen 60 I offered - "pretty good shape" --- not really the best description - as it sits - likely a 7.0 - the cover has 4 indentations from something sitting on it - if you are a pressing type of person, this could be 8.5 maybe 9.0 ( slightly rounded corners and a small crease lower right corner)

watching live - my list pick should still be there --better be  as "cool" as it sounded........

the response I got back from my submission..... leaves me less than optimistic........

the seller did package like a fool - but also offered a return...... I see too much back an forth. After his first message - I would have simply stated that an item not as described case would be opened - asking for the $15 ( or whatever)  re-holder fee ( and you should be able to add images). Explain simply that the cost for return shipping would be more than this.

If they know what they are doing - they refund the fee. IF not - ebay will force a return - - or you might be given the option to keep it. Then neg them.

Keep it simple. Good sellers will take care of the issue, clueless ones will lose a lot of $$$ in return fees and bad rep.....

3 minutes ago, youmechooz said:

should just get the bags and boards from diamond.

actually think it's cheaper per bag and board with diamond.

Could be - no idea what diamond charges - as an example though - if you order direct through BCW for something like shortboxes - you can get 10 for 2.63 each ( this is anybody) .... the wholesale account - is about 30% less.  Some obvious drawbacks - large order for free shipping and you have to deliver to a commercial address, but cheap ( to me ).......

I do not know if you have done this yet - but it is pretty easy to become a BCW distributor ( heck - they even let me become one). Prices really drop - especially if you order enough for free shipping. Obviously not everyone likes their bags/boards - and the free shipping requires a $1K order - but the price is sure right.

There is an app called photoscan - that helps with the glare - you take the image - then move the phone and take more at the corners - the app then merges everything into one picture.

Works OK - not as good as a scanner ( see the legal sized scanner thread - only certain models can scan "depth" which is needed for a slab)- but much better than a standard cell phone.

I'm In!!!!

Dave

19 hours ago, oakman29 said:

20 hours ago, 1Cool said:

Didn't end well for the one guy who brought his wife onto the boards.  Too many Romeo's on here for my liking.

Bwwwwwwwaaaaaaaahahahaha! I remember that one.

DECOUPAGE BABY!!!!!