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I used to own 3 pages later. Bought it directly from JLGL in 2010 (I think). The price was ridiculously cheap.

The last (and I mean last as in the final also) time I did a crossover, where CGC cracked books from another slab, they did a visual inspection before cracking and emailed saying something like, "After visually inspecting this book we think it will grade (whatever grade, usually lower than what's on the slab you sent). For $100 (or whatever) we can press the book but there is no guarantee that it will result in a higher grade." I submitted about a dozen high value books. About half got this type of response. I declined all of their pressing because some of those books had been higher grades in CGC slabs prior to them being re-graded by Voldy. Almost all of them came back lower than Voldy, which means they were 2 grades below what CGC originally graded them. If it looks like a fish, swims like a fish, and smells fishy... it's probably a scam. Always crack your own books before resubbing.

That's the seal on the inner well not the slab itself. It looks normal.

No, it can include dry cleaning but dry cleaning will not get rid of most stains.

Because they do it all the time. Just off the top of my head... Batmobile Batplane Batsignal Kryptonite (all of them) Infinity Gauntlet Stormbreaker ...

Unfortunately, without having a time machine we're not going to know the exact what and wherefore of how these were stapled 45 years ago. From what we see, it looks legit. It is possible that a book with an MJI made it into the pence stack. That just adds a twist to the whole manufacturing sequence. I know for things like newspapers (I had a friend who worked as a pressman), special inserts happen in a separate collating step similar to how that video showed the cover going on after the fact. A customer could contract for x-number of inserts to be put in and those would be run first. Let's say they wanted 10,000 with their inserts. Those inserts would get added in a step that was separate from the collating of the normal pages. My theory on this is, the MJIs were added in the allocated number but some extra remained. Somehow one of more of those guts, with the MJI made its way into the pence-cover sort. Since the staples line up with all the rest of the pence books, it would have had to have come out of the stapler at the same time. Just my 2c. As for the reason the staples are in a different position on MJIs goes, I think it might (and this is just a guess) have something to do with the thickness of the insert. Driving a staple through the comic with a cardboard MJI would require a lot more force than one without. Maybe that required a reset of the stapler pressure or maybe it went through a completely different stapler. Just a theory.

Observations: Reprints don't have return register markings, indicating they never intended to the newsstand. Reprints could be related to these being licensed properties by Marvel. Things that got reprints and/or bagged versions in this era were: Star Wars, RotJ, Raider, GI Joe, Transformers, Smurfs, Secret Wars. All were partnerships with other companies. Blue return register mark p.5 ad, Fig Newton maze p.7 ad, Star Comics order form - marked MC-D84 p.10 ad, Twizzlers p.12 ad, Quick p.21 ad, Power Pack/Spider-Man p.23 ad, Dr. Doom convention calendar/Marvel Super Mart p.26 ad, multiple adds/Moondance Enterprises p.28 ad, Bullpen Bulletins/Hype Box/Check List (w/ Transformers #4, Daredevil #216) p.32 ad, order form/"Celebrate the Holidays!!!" - marked Nov-84 No return register mark Printing not indicated in indicia p.5 ad, Oreo Maze p.7 ad, DB/Fit For Life p.10 ad, Mile High Comics (Wolverine) p.12 ad, Mile High Comics - Exp. May 31, 1985 p.21 ad, Bonkers p.21 ad, Dorman's Cheese p.26 ad, Doug Sulipa/Marvel Super Mart p.28 ad, Bullpen Bulletins/Hype Box (w/ Daredevil #221)/Elf Quest p.32 ad, order form/"Special 4 Title Offer" - marked Apr-85 Blue return register marks p.7 ad, Reese's Pieces p.9 ad, Oreo word game p.10 ad, Bonkers p.12 ad. multiple ads/Marvel Super Mart p.21 ad, multiple ads/Comic Convention 1985 p.23 ad, J&S Comics p.26 ad, Olympic (Prizes or Cash) p.28 ad, Bullpen Bulletins/Hype Box/Check List (w/ Transformers #5, Daredevil #219) p.32 ad, order form/"Special 1984 Prices in 1985" - marked Feb-85 No return register marks Printing not indicated in indicia p.7 ad, DP/Fit For Life p.9 ad, Oreo maze p.10 ad, Twizzlers p.12 ad, Quick p.21 ad, Bonkers p.23 ad, Dorman's Cheese (stickers) p.26 ad, multiple ads/Doug Sulipa/Marvel Super Mart p.28 ad, Bullpen Bulletins/Hype Box (w/ Daredevil #221)/Elf Quest p.32 ad, order form/"Special 4 Title Offer" - marked Apr-85 Pink return register marks p.5 ad, Oreo maze p.7 ad, Tootsie Roll sweepstakes p.10 ad, Secret Wars II p.12 ad, multiple ads/Comics 50¢ p.21 ad, Power Pack/Spider-Man p.23 ad, multiple ads/Marvel Super Mart p.26 ad, Star Comics order form - marked STM-385 p.28 ad, Roger Stern's Old-Fashioned Crunchy-Style Bullpen Bulletins/Hype Box/Check List (w/ Transformers #6, Daredevil #220) p.31 ad, Fred Hembeck Destroys the Marvel Universe p.32 ad, order form/"Special 4 Title Offer" - marked Mar-85 Don't have this one Pink return register marks p.5 ad, Oreo maze p.7 ad, DP/Fit For Life p.10 ad, Twizzlers p.12 ad, Quick p.21 ad, Bonkers p.23 ad, Dorman's Cheese p.26 ad, multiple ads/Doug Sulipa/Marvel Super Mart p.28 ad, Bullpen Bulletins/Hype Box (w/ Daredevil #221)/Elf Quest Don't have this one No return register mark Third Printing in indicia p.5 ad, Oreo maze p.7 ad, Bonkers Robot Watch p.10 ad, Reese's Pieces p.12 ad, DP/Fit For Life p.21 ad, Mile High Comics (exp. Dec 31, 1985) p.24 ad, Neon Lace Glow in the Dark Posters p.26 ad, Olympic (Prizes or Cash) Pink return register mark p.5 ad, Fig Newtons maze p.7 ad, Quick p.10 ad, Reese's Pieces p.12 ad, Bonkers p.21 ad, Mile High Comics (Wolverine) p.23 ad, Mile High comics (exp. Nov 30, 1985) p.26 ad, multiple ads/Elf Quest p.28 ad, Bullpen Bulletins/Hype Box/Check List (w/ Transformers #8, Daredevil #222) p.31 ad, Solomon Kane p.32 ad, order form/"Special 4 Title Offer" - marked May-85 Don't have this one Purple return register mark p.5 ad, Fig Newtons p.7 ad, Twizzlers p.10 ad, Heavenly Kid p.12 ad, Quick p.21 ad, Tootsie Roll Sweepstakes p.23 ad, Transformers on videocassette/J&S Comics p.26 ad, Mile High Comics (exp. Dec 31, 1985) p.28 ad, Bullpen Bulletins/Mighty Marvel Convention Calendar/Checklist (w/ Transformers #9, Daredevil #223) p.31 ad, West Coast Avengers/Vision and the Scarlet Witch p.32 ad, order form/"Special Savings Coupon" - marked June 85 No return register mark Second Printing in indicia p.5 ad, Oreo maze p.7 ad, Bonkers robot watch p.10 ad, Reese's Pieces p.12 ad, DB/Fit For Life p.21 ad, Mile High Comic (Wolverine) p.23 ad, Mile High Comics (exp. Dec 31, 1985) p.26 ad, Neon Lace, Glow in the Dark Posters p.28 ad, Olympic (Prize or Cash) p.31 ad, West Coast Avengers/Vision and the Scarlet Witch p.32 ad, order form/"Special Savings Coupon" - marked July 85

Of course. I was only talking about the application of Immacuclean to cleaning. I've tested it on non-paper stuff too and it works better than almost anything for picking up schmutz -- that's the nature of a surfactant. But even the best dry cleaning techniques tend to leave a little something behind that's why wet cleaning is considered the best overall for paper. However, I wouldn't classify wiping a book with something barely damp as wet cleaning per-se nor would I say it's dry cleaning.

Rick is really up front about what's in it. It's just a surfactant that helps lift off dirt and other substances. As he put it once, "It's a soap that does a horrible job cleaning your hands." There is no bleaching agent in it at all. All it does is allow dirt to be lifted off. There are a couple of drawbacks and they have to be taken into consideration when you're using it. 1) It's really strong and needs to be diluted to 2%-3% or even less. But that means you're applying 97%-98% water to the surface of the paper and that creates its own problems. 2) Per Rick, it is a chelating agent and bonds to metals (making them easier to remove). Now, what is in red and yellow ink... metal, that's right. Thus, a heavy application of Immacuclean that gets through the gloss and contacts the ink can (but not always) cause some color to lift off. 3) It suspends some of that nasty spoon that can dry on your book, leaving streaks unless you clean it off thoroughly. I have used it many, many times and it takes a lot of practice to get right. When it works, it works great. What I've found it works best on is oxidation. It will pick up the oxidation like nothing else. Unfortunately, unless you clean the book over and over again, you get oxidation streaks. It's not something I recommend unless you have a lot of experience with it.

Unfortunately I'm the guy who let the genie out of the bottle. I was on a professional pressing FB group and posted the preliminary results of an experiment I did with various light sources and chemicals. When I posted it I left a HUGE disclaimer saying this was in no way a test of what happens to the actual paper, just what it does to the appearance. Within 6 weeks it was viral and in a freaking book. That being said, at this point I have done a considerable amount on academic research on peroxide and paper. It is certainly not taboo in the paper conservation community but, as Sauce Dog said, there are some key before and after things that need to be done. Alas, 99% of the yahoos doing this are only going for the aesthetic component with absolutely no consideration nor concern for what it's doing to the longevity of the book. For that reason I stopped referencing any work I do with it.

Ah. I missed that. Good luck with getting them to update that. I have called on several items in the past and they NEVER get them corrected. I have always had to do a Mechanical Error return.

Call, ask to have it relabeled properly. They will send you a mailing label and all you have to do is fill out a Mechanical Error submission then mail it back.

When #4 was out, #1 was selling for $100 if you could find it. My LCS ordered 3 #1s and only 1 sold. The other 2 ended up forgotten in the $1 box for a couple of months. Right after #4 came out and things really started heating up, a friend found the #1s in the back of the $1 box. He took them to the next con and flipped them for some keys he needed to finish his Hulk run.

In the pre-flying days he wasn't that fast. He was only "terrifyingly" fast (I believe that's how they put it).

Yup... and super breath... that's gotta give him some push.

The cape will only create vertical drag unless he grabs it like a parachute.

He could flex enough to keep his body from bending, giving himself the maximum drag. He's Superman for crying out loud. He is also going to leave a huge trench in the ground when he hits at 125 mph vertical velocity AND 125 mph horizontal velocity.

Someone as strong as Superman could do it ... but he can't overcome the laws of physics to exceed it without either the super power to control his descent or some sort of squirrel suit.

There's one panel where he's just jumping around hoping to see some criminal activity. Seems plausible to me since every time he lands he hits hard enough to derail a cable car (which he did in an earlier issue). This begs the question, just what are all the buildings made of so they can, 1) not crumble under the force it takes to let a man spring off it and get hundreds of feet in the air, and 2) not shatter when he hits them (see the part about derailing a cable car).

I don't believe you. I don't believe a skydiver can travel in a horizontal line, parallel to the earth, 50 feet above the ground, before they pull the cord. I don't believe it's possible to travel more than a 1:1 ratio without a squirrel suit (or something similar) and you need to be at near terminal velocity then flare hard. Then it's a progressive sweep, not a sudden turn. So let's say Superman is in a freefall, he would need to start his turn about 100 feet off the ground to, getting to a 45 degree angle (1:1) and "swoop" in.

Now we get to Action #30. It look pretty obvious that Superman can change direction in midair. The panel before this he's on a building so he could have jumped down but then he snatches Lois and flies up, at least that's how it looks. He could have landed, grabbed her, then jumped again. Later in that same issue, Superman rips the evil Arab's rocket ship apart then carries the girl he just rescued "aloft". He's going to have to be flying to do that.

What's not to believe? As revealed in the last issue, it's the brain of a man, Ultra, that has been transplanted into the body of Dolores Winters. What, did you think a woman could be a super villain? Utter poppycock!

And late in that same issue he does it again, outmaneuvering and losing an airplane in the clouds, then descending (apparently controlled) into a crater.