rabidwolf

On 3/18/2022 at 8:49 PM, Gruson said:

Yeah some big private sales have happened too. 
You can follow me on IG, I’ve been posting some from my collection as I get them back from VGA. 

silveragecollector 

thanks just sent you a request on IG

On 3/18/2022 at 8:25 PM, Gruson said:

There is a $275k offer on Goonies on comiconnect too. 

WOW I saw comicconnect is auctioning VHS ending tomorrow for their recent auction but did not know they had so many straight sales up  -  just went over and checked that out and a $125k offer for an early Texas Chainsaw!! bunch of other 4 and 5 figure offers including three cult horror movies would love to own - Killer clowns, Return of the living dead and Halloween. need to step it up and find some raws of those 3 before I get priced out. 

WOW JUST WOW - just saw this sale on comiclink which apparently has an exchange for VHS now. 

On 3/9/2022 at 9:22 AM, Mr Rez said:

Hey all. Very new here, but am looking for advice.

I got my hands on some very good condition sealed Star Wars and ESB VHSs from '84 (sadly, no RotJ). What I want to know is, are they worth getting graded? If so, what's the best place to get them graded at? I know I'm on the CGC site, but don't know if they do VHSs. I've also heard IGS may be a scam, but I believe I've seen legit auctions for them. VHSDNA isn't accepting new submissions, either.

I picked them up on a lark, cause I love the original trilogy and thought the novelty of the old cassettes would be neat. Plus, you can't beat that cover art.

Your star wars appears to be an earlier printing thus has value 

Gruson would be the best person on here to confirm

From what I see most auction houses are favoring IGS and VGA for grading 

1st print betamax back to the future just went for $7200 at auction on eBay - just slightly higher than the 1st print vhs return of the Jedi that sold last week at suction for $7100 from same seller.

thoughts? 

On 3/8/2022 at 5:21 AM, Gruson said:

Jedi is super rare to find in that version. 

Weintraub Terminator is around a 1988 release so not that early but still tough.  

Thanks for the info

getting into this slowly here and there with some horror tape acquisitions but unlike comics vhs movies seem to have so many versions 

so is that terminator a 2nd or 3rd print in comparison to the 1st that sold for 32k on Comicconect ?

still seems pretty cheap in comparison if so

7k for a graded 1st print return of the jedi

4k for an early print terminator 

sold at auction on eBay tonight 

thoughts 

There was a nice raw early/1st print attack of the killer tomatoes on e bay at auction today

knew it would go 4 figures and intended to bid aggressively but then went over $2000 with less than 30 seconds and ended at over $5500

still no dealer list??

On 2/26/2022 at 9:35 AM, Buzzetta said:

Here is where I disagree with the collecting of sealed VHS tapes. 

What are you actually collecting and where is the value? 

Are you collecting a box with a hunk of plastic in it or are you collecting something under the assumption that if it were removed from the package it would actually work?  When I worked for Disney we were warned that VHS cassettes needed to be used in order to slow the degrading process.  Over a period of years, not decades, the tapes will degrade and even more significantly if they are not used.  The tape has been known to become brittle if not played.

So... that raises the question.  Is the collector buying these knowing that the artifact is being graded as a box only?  The interior product is far more questionable.

A comic, a baseball card and most toys can be inspected to assess their condition.  A comic book can be cracked out of a slab and inspected and then slabbed again realizing the same grade.  A sealed VHS cassette is more of a ticking time bomb.

I've likened the VHS collector who is spending money on these things as the equivalent to the GI Joe collector buying Mint on Card joes knowing that over time that o-ring is going to crack and the pressure from the rivets are slowly breaking the elbow joints and the arms.  If a guy pays $1000 for a joe that snaps on the card it cannot be 'fixed' without removing it from the card.  However, the item is definitely no longer worth what the buyer originally paid because he has a broken figure sealed to a card. 

So is this a fad or are a lot of people about to lose a significant amount of money?  Someone recently paid north of $30,000 for a copy of Terminator through Metro.  That's not even T2.  

Are these things actually going to maintain value or are people looking to hype the next best thing? 

All good points

i guess time will tell but I really feel vhs is more analogous to video games then comics cards etc. 

if video game collecting is any indication this will definitely have a collectors market

if people view vhs collecting simply as a sealed artifact and not concerned about whether it works won’t matter

I saw heritage is set to have a signature type vhs auction end of April probably with higher end tapes 

will be interesting to see

Anybody know if this is going to take place in LA this summer? 

Yes that happened to me a couple of days ago

first time in 20 plus years 

On 2/23/2022 at 8:14 AM, Dark Knight said:

Article contains a list of valley comic book shops back in the 90's.  Brings me back some memories 

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-08-05-va-33288-story.html

Very cool thanks

i forgot flipside is actually still in business 

And Cat from comic kon has had his own store for many many years now 

mike frank collectors dream had a really good silver age key selection back in the day - haven’t been in a couple of years but he was setting up at the frank and sons mega warehouse throughout the 2010s 

Man according to that article continental was established in 1977. It’s almost as old as I am. First time I walked in there was 1990

On 2/21/2022 at 7:15 AM, Timely said:

Continental Comics is close by on Devonshire and Balboa (next to Denny’s). That was my lcs from 1987 until I moved in 2004. They are still there.

Yup

started going to continental in high school in the early   90s 

here were some others from the late 80s/90s n the valley 

collectors dream - my personal favorite

super hero universe 

outer limits/forbidden planet

comics and fun

pee wee comics

golden apple 

i think continental is the only brick and mortar that survived to this day from the 80s or even 90s

On 2/18/2022 at 8:52 PM, Sauce Dog said:

Of all the graded collectibles out there, graded VHS is the one that makes my eyes roll. Demand seems 100% artificial, and nothing but a pump and dump scheme through and through based on the people I've seen involved in it (and who is selling to who). Especially odd once you realize that there is no way to confirm a tape hasn't been demagnetized, suffering rot (a big issue with some game collecting, since you cannot tell unless you crack it open, more of a problem on older VHS due to the materials used), or what level of damage the tape is in (tapes can suffer damage if not played due to how tightly they were wound during manufacturing).

I can find nothing about grading tapes that offer them any sort of preservation (unlike paper collectibles or most toys), and only see the value of them making for a nice display piece (as I do like the 'Oscar-like' display stands they use)

You have good Valid points

but a lot of this can be and was said about video games and look how much people are shelling out for those . Who knows if those sealed games are playable

I think super Mario or a madden football that was around in the late 80s I was playing in junior high is now going for hundreds of thousands makes no sense since you could buy a 8.5- 9.0 amazing fantasy 15 or. Low grade tec 27 just a year or so ago for that price. 
 

but that’s where the market is at and doesn’t seem to be slowing down 

On 2/18/2022 at 2:12 PM, Bosco685 said:

I'm on a movie collecting site and I am shocked at times what some VHS tapes go for. Especially when they are unopened, the bidding war that takes place.

One reseller had MRS. Doubtfire VHS unopened and I think that ended up at over $75.

Link?

going to post a WTB VHS for some horror movies in the WTB threads if anyone looking to sell

On 2/18/2022 at 12:15 PM, Beige said:

My biggest issue with this is the 'sealed' bit.

You can get a VHS resealed in seconds with a machine that you can find anywhere.

How do grade a 'sealed' VHS?

 

I get the 'rule of 25' on this - I loved some of those films - but there seem to be a high number of 'sealed unused' classic movie VHS tapes 'found' recently.

I'm highly dubious about the whole thing.

 

I do love laserdiscs though - especially as you can now buy replacement lasers very easily

I think the safest bet to confirm if its factory sealed is if it has watermarks on the shrink wrap. In fact I've seen a lot of the 80s tapes say on the back factory sealed only if it has a specific watermark picture on the back of the box. 

Frankly I don't doubt this will end up with a big collectible market especially with all the major collectible auction houses alloting auctions to VHS. look at videogames from the 80s going for 5 and 6 figures in just a couple of years. especially the horror genre which I dig has some really cool art on the boxes

On 2/18/2022 at 11:31 AM, Falcon760 said:

the world must be insane to want graded VHS tapes, some of which are a dominant presence in land fills.

I think thats what people said when comics and video games started becoming valuable collectibles.

In facts there is actually a massive landfill of Atari games from the 80s. 

On 2/18/2022 at 10:03 AM, fatlab123 said:

First wave of guest is on sdccblog.com

Thanks, any dealer list? or any dealers on this forum going?

On 2/18/2022 at 10:45 AM, Gruson said:

They’re being graded by VGA.

very cool - is there a VHS forum like CGC?

wouldnt mind getting an early ROTLD

On 2/18/2022 at 10:38 AM, Gruson said:

I’m heavily into it. The first prints/releases are already selling for thousands sealed on most popular movies. They’re super tough to find where as later stuff, after 1989 is a lot easier to find sealed. 

Pumpkinhead around $2000

Return of Living Dead $2000 to $5000 depending on version. 
 

awesome thanks - would love to see some pics of 80s horror if you got some

On 2/18/2022 at 10:29 AM, 70s80sTimeMachine said:

I have collected VHS, CDs, and LDs for years. 

CL archives their auction data. Here are the most recent results

CertifiedLink :: Online Certified Collectible Auctions

I have also been maintaining some points of data:

As far as recent stand outs; a slabbed mint/mint Ghostbusters just sold for well over $10K.

A 1st edition Risky Business mint/NM and CBS Fox Star Wars mint/mint recently sold for high 4 figures each.

Top Gun mint/mint sold for over $4000.

As a reference point for noobs, here is the grading scale standard:

Grading Number Scale (1-10) | Investment Grading

A lower tier mint starts at 8.5 but 9.0 is also mint where gem mint would be 9.5 and "epic" is 10.

Basically anything in 8.5 range sells at bigger multiples.

 

 

Awesome thanks  -hard to keep track of the multiple prints for VHS. even the boxes that have the same year for example like an early 1984/1985/1986 ox seems to have little variations in boxes, watermarks, seals that make one version a lot more rare than another. 

Looks like all the big auctions houses have started auctioning graded VHS. anybody here a veteran VHS collector or recently gotten into it. 

wouldn't mind picking up some 80s cult horrors I grew up on as a kid, before they go crazy like Pumpkin head, Return of the Living Dead, They Live, Night of the Creeps, Howling etc. just dont know what price points are.

On 2/6/2022 at 7:31 AM, Dreamtoreal1 said:

It will happen B!  Have Faith! this is Orange County not LA  ha!

any updates in this show? a little over a month away and no updates? will it be a no go?