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Yep. I've thought about this for decades. You're the 1st person I've ever seen bring it up.

I went this year and there were 6 comic dealers among 100 booths. The problem for all Wizard shows is the same. Their high booth prices push out smaller, local dealers who are the bread and butter and draw for many people. There used to be wall to wall comics. The international dealers, who operate on much larger budgets can still afford to come but the small local guys can't. They are all but gone completely. This year there were empty booths that people chose not to pay for. Even artist's alley was a fraction of the size it used to be. They used to fill the entire room with the show. Now they don't.

What is the 1st Chicago / Rosemont show you ever visited? Mine was in 2007 and the difference in depth of inventory between then and now is staggering. You could shop for 4 days straight back then and not see everything. This show is now a shadow of what it used to be, even a few years ago.

CGC does not give two books the same grade if one has MC and one doesn't. That's flawed thinking. The chipping is factored into the grade, just like every other defect is. And as it goes with collectibles, the more expensive the item the more picky a buyer is going to be. Witness the Amazing Fantasy #15 CGC 9.4 that sold at Heritage last year. It went for $450K, a number shocking to some people but a year prior a major dealer had posted ads looking to buy 9.4 copies and was paying $450K for them. Why did this copy 'only' go for $450K? I presume because it had some tanning issues (which were discussed here in detail). So all sorts of defect can affect final realized prices - miswraps, miscuts, tanning, dust and sun shadows, page quality, and of course Marvel chipping. And that brings me round to another point: You entered into the fray in the midst of the mania. While some defects have always affected sales prices, as mania increases, so does how closely people scrutinize the market. Prior to this year, MC copies did have an effect on prices but I believe the discussion on this site has affected the market moving forward creating an even larger disparity as in my 13+ years on this site, I've never seen the discussion so intense. And there are still people who don't care about MC (often those who grew up buying these books off newsstands and realizing that it was a part of life).

Stop trying to be intellectual about this. It stank because everything sucked about it. The writing, the production, the special effects, the acting. Marvel filmed it like it was a high school project.

Methinks you're over reacting. I don't see any wagons circling or invaders.

Anywhere to watch this besides Showtime?

I liked this. I thought it was about as good as the original, and while the original was great it's important to step back and put it into perspective. Marvel took a forgettable franchise with a bunch of characters that nobody could possibly care about and build a world class franchise out of it.

+1 This seems senseless. They need to hand it back to Marvel. To be fair, the Dark Phoenix saga is a story arc on it's own able to span several films. Last Stand was a ridiculously cheap and amateur way of dealing with what arguably could be one of the greatest X-men story arcs of all time and certainly the best of the 80's. But I'll wait till seeing it before passing judgement.

BVS could have been 2 or 3 movies and that is what I dislike most about it. If it was just BVS it would have been great. Maybe have WW cameo at the end. Make the Dark Knight storyline stretch out. Make the Doomsday storyline ANOTHER two or three movies. What I dislike is the trash that DC puts out in an effort to try to skip steps, and to an experienced movie watcher it's just cheap shortcuts. The movie had good, if not great moments, but as a full length film it's a childish effort over all IMO.

Sorry I missed this. Just ignore. It's one of the main reasons I rarely enter this sub-forum anymore.

I agree. It was amazing. I took my 16 year old daughter and after laying a solid foundation by explaining the original, she actually really enjoyed this film. Sure, the film was slowly paced. That's part of what makes it even better. The slow, drawn out, brooding and thick-as- butter atmospheres were phenomenally crafted. I loved every second of it. What I appreciate most is how hard Scott worked to keep this film looking like it was filmed circa 1980 even though it was filmed almost 40 years later with special effects that could eclipse anything done in the original (which is timeless, by the way and one of my favorite films of all time). A terrific sequel that faithfully follows the original well.

I finally caved in and watched Season 1 and thought it was phenomenal. Well done front to back. There are better shows IMO but this one is up there among them. I really liked the 80's throwback (and I admit that it has a LOT of emotional sway with me, being a teen in the early - mid 80's). Loved all the throwback nods in this film, but the one that stood out to me the most was the constant ET throwbacks (did anyone mention this one as I haven't read the thread). I've yet to watch Season 2 but from what I'm hearing it's going to be great.

Logan was phenomenal. Enjoyed it from start to finish. DC take note, this is what a good Superhero movie is like.

Daredevil 1 and 2 were phenomenal. No complaints and can't wait for season 3. After the bomb that Jessica Jones was, I won't be watching the other Marvel movies. They're just cash grabs compared to this production perfect franchise.

Yup. It was a terrific movie. Not a huge fan of them changing up the original supporting cast so much but I understand that they have to do it for contemporary audiences. Keaton - as if he couldn't get any better, just kept getting better. Batman, , Betelgeuse, Birdman and now Vulture. How many times can an actor reinvent himself in contemporary pop culture? Apparently nobody except for Keaton. He was magnificent.

That news may or may not be true at this point. But I did see the 1st WW movie and thought it was really well done. DC finally made a great Superhero movie!

I watched the 1st two episodes in the theater and it stank. I won't watch the rest of the shows even though the Inhumans are a lifelong favorite franchise of mine. Too bad.

Been saying it for years. That would be the smartest move DC could make.

I thought Thor was a fun watch from beginning to end. I thought Cate Blanchett was really good (and she was even hot in costume - not a way I'm used to thinking of CB ). I liked the story. One thing I did not like is that there was too much humor. They could have toned it down for some of the serious battle scenes. Other than that, I enjoyed it.

A good story is a good story, regardless of the characters. DC just can't seem to get their act together, outside of the Nolan / Batman films. I have yet to see this but my nose is a terrific BS meter for movies and this had stinker all over it since I saw BVS (which also wasn't great IMO). They are trying to hard to catch Marvel rather than just move at their own pace, and that is the main problem. Trying to catch a moving target is much harder than creating your own target and going for it.

While I agree with you wholeheartedly (I'm a lifelong collector and relatively newly turned full time dealer but I still miss the love for comics without the values) the discussion about values is a necessary byproduct once a hobby goes mainstream. Values drive in more viewers. Would the hobby be better without all the speculation? Tough to say, but at the same time it would also not be as easy to find books we want. So to me, ultimately it's like the advent of social media - it gets really messy out there but if you can choose how to use it to your benefit, it can be fun. You just have to filter out all the stuff being thrown at you that you don't want to see. I remember being 11, 12 maybe 13 years old in the early 1980's and sitting with a calculator in hand adding up what it would cost me to own every book in the runs I wanted to complete (mainstream Marvel titles). I remember coming to a value of something like $21,000 and trying to figure out how I was going to save that money to be able to by all the books I wanted. There was little thought about reselling the books - it was all about collecting out of a love for the stories. Unfortunately, this site has lost it's 'innocence'. I joined back in 2004, a couple of years after it formed and it was very different. While people talked about values in the past, they mostly spoke about surprising sales prices out of general interest. This site has likely become the de facto investment site as people speculate not only about values but about future interest, movie possibilities and other angles. I don't love it but it is a necessary side to the hobby.

It's only a relatively small handful of the same people talking prices.

Had some spine issues I believe. Are you making excuses for the sale price? If it didn't have issues it wouldn't be a 6.5. It's a mid grade book, not a high grade book. It was a decent looking 6.5

That CGC 6.5 with no MC at all would be a 75 000$ to 80 000$ book. Comiclink just sold a copy with no chipping for $67K