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I know this is sacrilegious but I've always been underwhelmed by Ditko covers. They always lacked an 'oomph' of some sort. He was a great storyteller though. I used to feel this way as well. But I think Ditko is an acquired taste, much like the musical genius of Jimi Hendrix, it is hard to grasp on the the first go round. The covers of ASM #23 and #24 really sold me to his brilliance. I like those Spidey covers too. But for every solid Spidey cover that Ditko drew (like #3, #23, #24, #28, #29) there are plenty of clunkers like #8, #22, #30, and #31. I can't imagine how Marvel let the cover for ASM #30 ever go to the printers. What's amazing to me is that the stretch of Romita covers that followed Ditko's work was just incredible. For me, ASM #39 to #75 is one of the best sustained runs of covers I can think of. They're not all great, of course. But I think the number of classic covers in that run is far greater than the covers that are just ok. Could be simply because Romita was shown the ropes by Kirby. What were Kirby's and Ditko's relationship between each other like in the early 60's?

Lots of people have no problem with restored books. I think the point being made here is that these books may not necessarily 'feel' like comics in hand because of the type of resto work being done to them to achieve their grades. to each their own. I love restored books but I'm not sure how I feel about these.

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I was taking the conversation in my own direction. He made a mistake with the post. Although I do think open negotiations within a thread would be entertaining. As soon as some guy throws out a figure, some other dude can jump in and say how he'll do better. Watch them bloody each other until one is left standing to paypal you. I'd pay a buck to watch that go down. Wait till the personal insults start for calling out low bidders.

Yeah, good point. I think Nolan is terrific at making an epic ensemble movie but you're right on the humor dynamic. Come to think of it, Guardians was a perfect FF movie. I'm surprised I didn't realize that.

I've calmed down. Pine's statement just struck me as very condescending to women. "...how wonderful the world can be with beautiful, strong intelligent women...blah, blah, blah. A verbal cheek-pinch and head-pat. Or just ignorant. He may not be a comic geek. But yeah, the word 'successful' would have made all the difference.

Animated, but in Brad Bird-like hands. There have been a few animated TV shows with the Fantastic Four, and you can see how in the wrong hands it doesn't go over so well.For film I think they need to go photorealistic, cutting edge groundbreaking. A techno excellence wonder-to-behold jawdropper. Something that makes headlines technologically and gets butts in seats. Make it epic, galactic, pack it with that Jack Kirby cosmic chariots-of-the-gods stuff. Use the core material and blow people's minds with the grand-fantasy of it all. What it's meant to be. Surfer, Galactus, Skrulls, Doom, worlds, dimensions, POWER, spectacle. All of it. Put the "Fantastic" back in FF. Where anyone with a single geek-cell in their body has to go see for themselves. Make Christopher Nolan want to do it. He's spectacular at working with a large ensemble cast. He can be the 'Neal Adams' of the FF movie world and resurrect a dying franchise.

Yes. Re release Chronicle and photoshop everyone's faces into FF characters.

Just got back from Montreal, pole dancing capital of the North!

Missed that. Seems like a strong price, particularly since the other guys had a 6.5 go for $20K recently. I had the opportunity to buy that copy raw this summer and offered the guy about $17K. Looks like he netted nearly the same amount.

I had the opposite reaction in watching the trailer before Episode VII: even on a big screen, the trailer confirmed my fears about the prospects of this film, and in my theatre (this was on a Thursday night with a jacked up crowd), the response was largely muted. Not picking on your post. But much of what you have posted lately in this thread has been negative about Man of Steel, Zack Snyder and this movie. Could it be no matter what reaction occurred to the BvS trailer, perception-wise you would gravitate towards confirmation this movie will bomb disappoint? Fixed it for you. Yes. And like you, I try to be positive and open-minded, much the way you and I were in the months and weeks preceding Fantastic Four, and our optimism was punished once the full product was revealed. I am a DC fan. I want SupesvBats to hit a grand slam. My eyes don't like what they see, which, among other things, is an over-saturation of CGI (fake "outdoor" shots, fake capes, etc.), muted colors (at this point, why don't they just put Superman and Wonder Woman in black outfits and shoot the whole film in B&W?), an apparent misuse of a classic super-villain, and a redux of Godzilla laying waste (ho-hum, again) to a large cartoon city. Hope my perceptions are wrong once the final product is released. Fantastic Four was plagued with problems during production AND it looked like a stinker from the trailers. This movie has blockbuster written all over it. It may not be Citizen Kane, but it's going to be awesome.

I had the opposite reaction in watching the trailer before Episode VII: even on a big screen, the trailer confirmed my fears about the prospects of this film, and in my theatre (this was on a Thursday night with a jacked up crowd), the response was largely muted. I think it's going to be DC's biggest movie and hit or break $1BIL. We'll see.

We've had friction in the past? On here? I have no idea what the strike is about. I was off most of the evening with my kids. I thought the thread idea was silly but I'm not offended by it.

It was out of necessity as price points grew further apart. It became difficult to charge, say, $100K for a Mint copy but only $50K for a lesser copy if it was nicer than Fine. I'm not so sure anymore. As F_T once said, he regrades his own books and gets all the same grades. Generally, me too. So I'm not sure why the inconsistency.

I'm not liking Metro's new photography system. There's enough glare on the top left of that potentially $50K book that I can't see what's going on.

I think ASM #16 is one of Ditko's better Spidey poses - he's lithe, fluid.

I could be wrong but that cover looks to have a lot of Kirby in it. Is there any Ditko in it at all? Amazingly enough, Kirby seemed to be able to draw anything well except for Spidey.

Funny, my childhood was punctuated by those ads and I see them as memorable. We lived in Canada so when Marvel started advertising Toys R Us I was shocked to learn that there was a chain of stores that were devoted solely to toys.

Can someone translate this into standard English please? My favorite was "the whole 666" like the whole nine yards, but more infernal. That's how I took it too. Does greggy receive credit for starting that trend?

I know this is sacrilegious but I've always been underwhelmed by Ditko covers. They always lacked an 'oomph' of some sort. He was a great storyteller though. I used to feel this way as well. But I think Ditko is an acquired taste, much like the musical genius of Jimi Hendrix, it is hard to grasp on the the first go round. The covers of ASM #23 and #24 really sold me to his brilliance. I think I 'get' Ditko. It's also a demographic thing IMO. I'll admit that I like #3 and #23 and probably #23 the most.

I know this is sacrilegious but I've always been underwhelmed by Ditko covers. They always lacked an 'oomph' of some sort. He was a great storyteller though. I am a very big fan of Ditko the artist and storyteller. He should be studied by all comic book artists. But I too have felt that covers were not his strong point. Great anatomy and perspective but he didn't seem to have much interest in rendering backgrounds. I'm not alone.

Yup. DC has Marvel beat by a wide margin.

Hey ............. why does Angel have a bazooka ? Thats an excellent question I thought the Angel was carrying a metal thingy that he was going to throw at Magneto. like a piece of metal from a construction site. I've always loved those 'don't make sense' covers with weird SA props in them. Thor #89 is another, with that sparse skyline in the background. I always attributed them to a simpler time, where big city skylines weren't established, areas were less populated and artists were trying to capture the imagination of the children. Of course there should be a metal swingy thing in the middle of nowhere for Beast to swing on. How else was he going to be effective against Magneto? These weren't books for Harvard grads at this point, folks.

I know this is sacrilegious but I've always been underwhelmed by Ditko covers. They always lacked an 'oomph' of some sort. He was a great storyteller though. You really see the world backwards don't you sorta