Can someone please explain me why the opening title page from season of mists, featuring the super cool destiny's back, sold for 31k?

I know it's the best and most craved for sandman storyline, but it's a "dull" page!

Bumpty bump

4 hours ago, cheekyj2112 said:

Can anyone make any sense of this link? I can't.

J

Doesn't work for me

Oh well, patience is a vir(t)ue.

Sadly I missed the preliminary shirt design sold on clink for 5k in 2020. If somebody knows who the owner is, please.get in touch.

Hello folks,

In order to make a present to my 11 y/o daughter, I would love to buy a nice image of death by her most representative artist: Chris(tofer) Bachalo (I love dringenberg's interpretation, but I fear it's too dark for a young lady - anyway I am open to it).

Is there anybody who wants to sell/trade? Can be an image for a t shirt, pin, mug, poster, postcard ecc.

Caf:  https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerydetail.asp?gcat=47928

Luca

If my memory serves me, Joseph, those should be the worst pages of your incredible sandman collection!

Sandman pages for sale?

Oh yeah, I need to buy that house in Capri that my wife loves...

7 hours ago, Nostalgic Investments said:

Correct Cheap Art is $500 or less, New Art Fridays release is premium art and usually well exceeds $500.

Have you received my email? I sent it from the website form.

Luca

On 5/2/2021 at 1:44 PM, Nostalgic Investments said:

Today, February 5th is Nostalgic Investments 

Sent an email, still waiting for a reply.

Man without fear

9K on Albert's website - summer break 2020

16K on Glenn Bruswick website today

more or less +1k per month

https://panelpageart.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=783

34 minutes ago, ZimmermanTelegram said:

Has anyone bought from  http://www.artefumetto.it/en/? Just wondering how they are to deal with, how their shipping stacks up and if they are open to negotiations? 

Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Do you know any Italian collector that might help you out?

Let's roll and thanks all for reading and voting for me! :-)

Sandman - Mark Hempel - The Wake

Not a big fan of his work, but on this page D'Isreali is perfect and covers all Mark's flaws. Hob Gadling is a plus.

Sandman - Shawn McManus - A Game of You

Got this piece from a black hole collector. A very nice page, featuring Dream receiving the dying world after the Cuckoo has flown away/died (Gaiman loves this run even if it's the less preferred by readers. There is a run on Fables which is almost a perfect copy of this one, when Therese travles to the broken toys land).

Preacher - Steve Dillon - Proud Americans

Nothing else to say here with Tulip and Jesse. A big shot of Jesse with a cig. Just before kicking some Grail's . Ennis and Dillon at their best.

Darwyn Cooke - The New Frontier

The only other artist who draws better women than Darwyn is Dave Stevens. Wonder Woman is resting when Superman (that tiny spot in the sky in the second panel) arrives, bringing bad news. It's for my wife.

Hellboy Makoma pin up - Mike Mignola

Got this one during the first CAF live. Had to sell one huge Mignola piece, but this one is almost as good as the one I had to let go. The Makoma story is great and wonderfully pencilled by Corben (I wish I had a page...). Hellboy and African animals plus a skeleton.

HONORABLE MENTIONS:

1) I am a Vertigo guy. Invisibles by Chris Weston. King Mob and Ragged Robin. And Grant Morrison

2) Mike Mignola and Nyberg on Dracula. And the old man is there. Scary.

21 minutes ago, Dayzen said:

Buckingham 3-5k?

Yes, and yes Davis 5/10 on MM.

5 hours ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

Now that we’ve got prices on Sandman pages all settled

 

Sorry, but I don't agree with the final list. Ok for Bachalo's death in the 10/20k range, but the Vess Shakespeare (2 out of 3 stories by Vess) and Ramadan (only PCR) are over 20k. I know it for sure as I know what collectors paid. And I don't own any, so no personal interest.

31 minutes ago, NinjaSealed said:

I’m general and relating to Sandman I think It depends on how specific you want to get. There are certainly standout Sandman specific issues and pages that would go nuts if they were available....but I feel like those issues or any “keys” in general could all be called A+.

I do think Jones Seasons of Mist should probably move to the 20-30k. Don’t think a true A page sellers formless than that

Bachalo Death is close on that 20k line.

Biggest thing is any A pages is going to be over 10k no matter the artist.

 

So basically we agree on everything apart from Bachalo's death.

Happy to hear that as I own a great example (which I won't sell).

23 minutes ago, heartened said:

OK, will add Vess and PCR at the 10-20K, understanding that the best pages which include specific storylines are A+ pages.  Agree we want to avoid being too specific.

If my memory serves, Russell drew only Ramadan and Vess only the tempest and midsummers dream (and maybe a third episode).

30 minutes ago, heartened said:

So..... for our Sandman experts, keep Bachalo in 10-20K?  Where do we put Vess and PCR?  Are those pages you are talking about in the 20-30K range A+ pages?  If so, then we put the typical A level Vess/PCR in the 10-20K range, no?

I am very curious about the response from the community. But I stand with my values, as I know what some people paid and.others are ready to pay. And how many people would kill for a ramadan page.

31 minutes ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

Hi, Luca:

I stopped posting my collection on CAF some time ago.

regarding who I purchased my page from, I will confirm that it is a dealer, and I paid the full amount in cash.

I also purchased another page from the 1st mini series from another dealer in the high teens.

why did I pay so much?  Simple:

1. I think Death is the greatest character to come from the Sandman series, and nobody illustrated her features/attitude/quirkiness better than Bachalo.  He captured her essence best.

2. it would be great to own an A-level page from Sandman 8 with Death, but at what cost?

3. I really, really like the pages that I purchased and there wasn’t any comparable pages available.  As you stated in your initial email, these pages aren’t easy to come by.

1 - I totally agree 100% with you. I love dringenberg's death and I would love an example, but it is too dark and Siouxie (without the banshees). Bachalo is the definitive death artist.

2 - probably a small apartment. I know at least two collectors who owns excellent examples from that issue, but they would never sell. And I would do the same.

3 - we are talking about a seminal story and maybe less than 80 pages. If you don't count the pages without D, with D's back and with a lot of stats, maybe we have 30/40 pages.

38 minutes ago, heartened said:

Hi Luca,

Thanks for the analysis!  I have a Bacalo Death A-level page that I've been offered over 10K, so I can confirm that value on the market too.  I didn't sell.  Also, I want to clarify that the range doesn't mean the every artist/title in that bracket starts at the bottom of the range and goes up to the top of the range; rather it means that the A page will on average fall somewhere in that range.  It may be toward the bottom or toward the top, but over time as it escalates (or goes down), it may go to the next tier or drop a tier.  These ranges are meant to be guides.  Collectors and sellers are still going to have to do some research on where to price/value their page, based on what actually makes an A level page for that artist on that title : is it the inker, the main character on the page, storyline, content on that page, villain present, or other factors.  So, this list basically is just to get people in the ballpark, which in and of itself is quite helpful but certainly not everything!

 

I totally understand your point.

I would suggest considering splitting the 10/20k category in 10/15k and 15/20k. Probably it is more complicated, but my opinion is that between 10k and 20k the difference is bigger than between 20k and 30k. Hope this makes sense.

33 minutes ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

Hi, Luca:

great analysis of Sandman page values by artist.

I can confirm that I paid over $20K for a Bachalo Page from the 1st Death mini series, and it’s not even the best page from the issue.

Oh well, I am curious now. Is it.on caf? I have had many pages in the last years floating around me and not even one reached that amount.

As far as I know, one issue is still intact (if my memory serves it was owned by Peter David), one is almost missing and one has been sold/traded by the brothers. Did you buy your page from them? In this case you should cut in half.the price paid! :-)

As some of you might known, I have been helping, in the last years, fellow collectors buying/selling pages from the sandman, so I know some of the prices from private sales.

I think that the range 10/20k and 20/30k is too big, maybe we should split them in 10/15k, 15/20k etc.

Let's start for Bachalo's death: I can say that it's pretty hard to reach 10k. Maybe the best pages can reach 12k, but 20k? Maybe one or two from the first mini and one from the second (Titles or splashes). So I think we have to lower the values (and I am a proud owner of one wonderful page).

Kelley Jones 10/20k. No way you can get an A page from his issues for less than 15/17k. I would buy any page A page for 10k. If it's a top moment from season of mists or a dream of a thousand cats, I'd say we are over 20k.

Thompson 10/20k? Too much even if it's dream destruction and delirium. Normal A page is around 15k. Can't see and Thompson page reaching 20k.

Then there is Vess: midsummers dream is easily 20/30k. Easily. The tempest 10/20k.

PC Russell on Ramadan: easily 20k/30k.

Hempel, McManus, Bachalo, Zulli all over 10k. Depending on the moment of the story they can go up in value.

To make a long story short, there is no way you can get a nice Sandman story for less than 10k, maybe 15k . They are hard to find and very expensive (and I don't think it depends on the new netflix show). 

Hope this helps and, of course,  I am open to discussion.

Ps: I have re-read this post and it's very confused, don't know if it's because English is not my mother tongue or because the situation of Sanan art is very complex and always evolving.

Ciao,

Luca

When it comes to showing sandman art, I am always the first in line!

Personally, I have been trying to snatch a nice V for Vendetta page for quite some time and have offered my Sandman page(s) in trade: why, you ask? Because I know that if I sell my Sandman, waiting for the right V page, I will end up with no money (as I will probably spend it over the months/years) and no art. I would agree to sell my Sandman if the V page is immediately avaiilable from another collector, but that is not going to happen easily. This is my personal point of view, but I am sure it is very common.