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The middle transition period between the three accounts has presented some challenges. I have yet to reconcile why there are a number of gaps I've identified in that middle period, for a few summer months on several books, but nonetheless troubling when you start peeling back each layer. Applying the pattern of repeating certification numbers across the 1681 records, we uncover another troubling example of a certification number which seemingly first sold on eBay in 2019, then when it reappeared through the alleged seller involved in this tampering incident, where the comic not only changed, but was in a condition lacking merit for the assigned grade on the label. The last iteration, is where it ended-up on Heritage. These are the screenshots of the listings, provided for context/posterity, as well as front/back scans for each, and original recorded sale date and price. Cert: 0013796019 (3 matches) 1. ebay | Cert: 0013796019 | sparklecitycomics | 11/24/2019 | $6,001 2. Cert: 0013796019 [5/8/2021] - $21,995 3. heritage | Cert: 0013796019 | 1/2/2022 | $12,600

Books requiring interior inspection are the ones that I first began using in my approach/strategy. The issue becomes what was the prevailing thinking for each example. We don't know (at least not yet) why we haven't seen any purple to blue. Too gutsy? I think it's because Hulk 181's are notorious for missing the MVS, and so the supply of qualifieds that have already had graders eyes on it, and going for better presenting than assigned grade, to make the kind of jumps we've seen a little more believable, and not trigger doubt enough to scrutinize more carefully. It's a laser guided approach, gets you thinking like the bad actor, and more of a custom-catered strategy to tackle searches for a match with each nuanced book. I've looked over that FF 4, and hadn't thought about the missing pin-up, I decided instead to work from purple labels. I may not find many qualified, but spit-balling is good if it can bring about some ideas to form strategies around.

I have not been able to connect the dots on this one to add it to the list of green to blue. No original donor matched for that switch.

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This cert number shows up twice on my dataset [9/12/2021] - $8,592 [8/7/2021] - $8,461

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The earliest Hulk 181 I was able to find thus far is the Qualified 7.0 that Sold Sept 3, 2022 became Universal 7.5 that Sold Nov 9, 2022 (number 6 on the list/matrix)

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I have four currently, yours would make it five. Can someone please compile a list of what the current names are. Thanks!

At a tournament, someone messaged me that CGC posted a response to this on iG. Haven't seen any posts in this thread or the forums, jumped straight on here, is this true? If so, can someone tag me on that post please.

I've decided to compile some visual points of reference, and direct links to what I'm dubbing "Project Green to Blue." I'm needing to step away from this for the time being. I appreciate everyone's help in this, in the over 20 years I've been following CGC's evolution, I feel this to be a rather unprecedented situation. Let's hope we can continue to work in unison to overcome the challenge before us. If I am unable to post again until next year, I want to wish everyone a Happy New Year, hoping this coming year will be better than the last!: Project Green to Blue (see links below corresponding to each example on the matrix) Qualifed 7.0 that became a Universal 7.5 Certification lookups: Auction sold listings and comparison pics: -- Qualified 6.5 that became a Universal 7.0 Certification lookups: Auction sold listings and comparison pics: --- Qualfied 8.5 that became Universal 8.5 Certification lookups: Auction sold listings and comparison pics: --- Qualified 6.0 that became a Universal 6.5 Certification lookups: Auction sold listings and comparison pics: --- Qualified 7.0 that became a Universal 8.5 Certification lookups: Auction sold listings and comparison pics: --- Qualified 8.5 that became Universal 9.0 Certification lookups: Auction sold listings and comparison pics:

0220043014 - Incredible Hulk 181 Qualified 8.5 (Incomplete) - Sold Jun 27, 2023 - $2499 (GD:10/21/2013) 4275679008 - Incredible Hulk 181 Universal 8.5 - Sold Oct 17, 2023 - $6211 (GD: 05/21/2023)

This is a repost of a Hulk 181 Green/Qualified 8.5 becoming a Blue/Universal 8.5 0220043014 - Incredible Hulk 181 Qualified 8.5 (Incomplete) - Sold Jun 27, 2023 - $2499 (GD:10/21/2013) 4275679008 - Incredible Hulk 181 Universal 8.5 - Sold Oct 17, 2023 - $6211 (GD: 05/21/2023)

4115260001 - Incredible Hulk 181 Qualified 7.0 (Incomplete) - Sold Sept 3, 2022 for $4700 (GD: 08/24/2022) 4115170002 - Incredible Hulk 181 Universal 7.5 - Sold Nov 9, 2022 for $6000 (GD: 08/24/2022)

This is a repost of a Green/Qualified 7.0 becoming a Blue/Universal 7.5 4115260001 - Incredible Hulk 181 Qualified 7.0 (Incomplete) (GD: 08/24/2022) 4115170002 - Incredible Hulk 181 Universal 7.5 (GD: 08/24/2022)

For the sake of cohesion, I'd like to repost two of the Green to Blue Hulk 181's - these two had initially been drawn out to several links, and I quite liked the two post flow from yesterdays. So bear with me as I repost these two, as I'm also compiling a master list and would like this all be to be available for quicker reference.

4108422002 ASM 238 - Sold for $999 on Apr 2, 2023 (GD: 08/12/2022) @agamotothanks for the great pics! Became ↳ 4235257005 ASM 238 9.8 - Sold 8/13/23 for $3019 (GD: 07/10/2023) also Sold 8/1/23 for $2850

This is a 9.4 to 9.8 ASM 238 Remarkable details on this is that the 4235257005 ASM 238 9.8 - Sold 8/13/23 for $3019 AND also Sold 8/1/23 for $2850 (GD: 07/10/2023) Distinguishing characteristic: after seeing the spine wear on the top tine of the top staple, I was able to essentially match this up to the 9.4 @agamoto was able to provide larger and clearer pics on. 4108422002 ASM 238 - 9.4 4235257005 ASM 238 9.8

Nice, that's a match! Let me get the info together to post

That's not what I'm wanting the image for, I'm trying to match it to one of his listings.

Yes, the photo and label/certificaiton is for a 9.4, but the title of the listing says 9.6. I've noticed a dispairty in dates of about 1 day between worthpoint and other sites, so maybe check 4/1/2023 just in case. But on worthpoint it's April 2, 2023

Sold on eBay, mistakenly listed as a 9.6, but is actually a 9.4 ASM 238 - need a good clear pic, and the ones on worthpoint are too blurry