Lucky Baru

Yesterday, I was interested in a Spawn page. The one listed yesterday for $850.00 was inked by McFarlane and had Spawn in every panel. I sent my request in right away as it had everything I'd ever want out of a Spawn page. The best of all worlds was on that page - Capullo, McFarlane, and Spawn. It wasn't to be as someone else beat me to it.

I attempted to purchase one of the Spawn pages. It is his artwork and I respect the fact that he has his own ideas about the price-point he's willing to let them be purchased at by collectors/fans.

Matt Wagner

That's a great cover.

Is that comment serious or in jest? Oh he is serious. Lets just say Mitch and Frank dont get along and leave it at that. Doug, You know nothing about how I get along with Frank. I have no problems with Frank. If he has a problem with me, I know nothing about it. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Frank. There are many, many variables that come into play between Frank and I. Things you will never know. Like I know you're getting that art from Frank's assistant. You're not dealing with Frank directly, regardless what you might say. Frank would have to approve it or it would be theft. Thus, that's from Frank.

Is that comment serious or in jest? Oh he is serious. Lets just say Mitch and Frank dont get along and leave it at that. But he sells or is it used to sell his art and was one of the few avenues for it. Interesting. He may sell it from time to time but that doesn't mean it comes directly from Frank. Interesting.

Is that comment serious or in jest? Oh he is serious. Lets just say Mitch and Frank dont get along and leave it at that. But he sells or is it used to sell his art and was one of the few avenues for it. Interesting.

Is that comment serious or in jest?

Guess you missed the ones comic sketch art has up like this one. http://www.shop.comicsketchart.com/Frank-Miller-Elektra-20x30-Commission-SKU-9697-9697.htm

Thanks. I dig the Lim Hulk splash you put up. Never seen his hulk before. That was pretty sweet.

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Thanks and yes it is. I think it is maybe the best work Wagner has ever done.

Really nice piece with Wagner

Have enjoyed it so far. From the previews it looks like they have a ton of action that is going to happen in the last couple of shows. Pros: They brought back the old writers so it has the same vibe. Con: Only one I that I saw was that the flashlight beams didn't look like they did in the 1990's. You know that long eerie beam that went on for ever. Other than that it has just been a joy to watch.

It would be interesting to know if these underbidders were also underbidders on other items of Mike's. I spoke with HA in the last two days. I was informed that they believe that I paid the FMV on the auctions I won. They advised that Mike did not bid on the items I won. They could not advise if any "friends" bid on the items as they do not know who the "friends" are or were. The representative I spoke with advised they had received a lot of phone calls about the situation. He also stated that Mike wrote an apology.

. TO MIKE Thank you for manning up. I believe that everybody deserves a second chance and thank you for taklking to the cgc boards, which by far is fandom's best website. I for have no doubt that in the future you will simply put a reserve on a item you want to sell thru an auction house and not interfere with the bidding process. I would buy or trade from you based upon the above statement. I know an accounting would be a nightmare for everybody so may I suggest to you to make things right that you consider donating some art to the comic book defense fund which I believe might be tax deductible and you will need to verify. I think it's a fair and will benfit all fandom and thank you again for coming on board and respecting fellow board members by replying to this Thead. I wish you all the best in the future. HA, COMICLINK, CC... For the buyers that might have possibly paid a higher price and the top bidders whom lost the piece , I would propose the following: Contact each person and send them a certificate for one buyer fee transaction for free. You will get more traffic, stimulate the market after this incident and create good faith for all collectors, it is the simple and fair thing to do for everybody. One free transaction fee? They pay for something they were unaware was occurring or does someone else get the bill for that fee you want them to wave? That is how they make their profits.

Well, that means HA is aware of the situation. I wonder what that conversation was like, and what was discussed.

Has anyone brought the other thread and his response to it to these parties you are interested in answering your question? Also, party A can give artwork to party B to place at auction. It would be an easy walk around to still get items listed and sold if party A wasn't allowed to sell something.

Save everything, print it off, and go talk to your county attorney about any charges you can file.

The crazier the prices the more likely that whoever buys now at the asking price will be eventually burned, but as you said best of luck to anyone who decides to jump into the water. At ~30K for 50 issues worth of covers, I can't imagine it being optimal to just sit on everything. Heck, I'd pay 15K for a few covers, which is Jim Lee pricing. I can't help but believe he's just going to sit on these for decades. From an investment standpoint, it would be far more lucrative for him to sell some and invest those earnings. He's taking a huge gamble on the long-term hype and market for his run, which he is seemingly dismissing at it's peak. If Greg is turning down 10-15k for Batman covers, wow. I guess he wants what he wants but he's done so much artwork over the years that it seems crazy to set 30k and up as a price point. what does that mean, 2k filler pages? I think He's basically locking out 99% or more of the people who would be in the market for his work. I love Greg and as popular as his batman seems to be I don't know that it's reached Hush or ASBAR proportions with fans or that he has reached or passed Jim lee's popularity over the last 15 years. Hush still seems to be the barometer for 21 century artist driven comic book popularity That's if he wants to sell them. Maybe he just doesn't want to sell them.

I feel that the Loeb/Lee/Williams/Sinclair "HUSH" is going to be looked upon as one of the most classic storylines of Batman and comics in general, where the prices will keep on going up since it seems rare to find pieces available in the market for sale and most are in private collections of fans who love 'em. In that, I'd personally rather have a Hush panel page over any Capullo cover any day because the artwork means more to me than being just an aesthetic pin-up of sort. It's one of the finest examples of great storytelling. I only wish I'd gotten into buying artwork when Albert Moy had pages available years ago. The last Comic Link auctions of last year had a couple Jim Lee Hush pages in them I think. Maybe I'm wrong.

I think you took my statement the wrong way. To me it sounds like Greg is like BWS, Miller, and McFarlane. I'm not saying he is as well off as all of them but it seems that they don't need the money. Thus, they aren't driven to put pages out there for the OA market place.

This. And referencing the Jim Lee market again, if we had not "seeded" some of our Hush art early on (for what seemed like aggressive prices at the time but relatively cheap now), we would not have cultivated a market price point progression. Valuations are not usually very meaningful when created in a vacuum. Scott The key is to curate your own work, holding the best back -for posterity -for IDW (not that anybody knew fifteen, twenty and more years ago) -for exhibition -for creating "context" for the (lower) prices you ask for 'lesser' pieces -for cashing out (ultimately). In the fine art world the role of figuring this out is often the dealer's, leaving the artist to create and grow, create and grow, etc. Unfortunately the self-employed DIY nature of comics (and illustration) work means the artist has to wear both hats, or pull a good friend or significant other in to help. If you have a sense you'll be making comics for a good long time (which used to be the case, not so much these days), then go in with open eyes and protect yourself and your market. Nobody else will. And railing for implementation of droit de suite won't do much for you as it will likely not be retroactive anyway. Capullo has it sort of right and sort of wrong. Yes hang onto Batman #1 (and the others too, if you want) but let 'some' pages go, let 'other' covers go...move the market up slowly (at primary) the same way a good dealer would (or gosh Greg GET a good dealer?!!) and reap the correct rewards (where demand meets supply, for a price) over time. $50k w/o context is just a number. And the kind that very few have to begin with. And even fewer (none) will spend in a vacuum. It doesn’t sound like it is important to him to have fans own his work nor to sell it. He generates it, and he owns it. He more than likely doesn’t need the money so what’s the point of selling it? He can take it out back like Sam Kieth does and light it on fire if he wants to.

Pretty much makes that have no value. Please PM me and get my address to send it to so I can shred it for you. Kidding, that is a fantastic piece. Thank you for sharing it.