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9 hours ago, piper said:

I haven’t read an X-Men comic in years. How much background do I need for House/Power of X?

Your experience will be richer if you have history with the characters. But you don’t need to know ANYTHING about what has happened in X-Men comics over the last 20 years. If you would at least recognize the characters who have been famous enough to appear in X-Men movies, you’re plenty prepared. 

I give Hickman a lot of credit for writing the story in such a way that you don’t have to be current at all to jump in (but still have some little nods to more recent events for those who were).

13 hours ago, Buzzetta said:

I am tempted to do an actual subscription with Marvel.  Is that still a thing?   No comic shop in the world is going to allow me to have a pull list of one title. 

I have a feeling that the next year's worth of books are going to be in very short supply. 

When I first opened the current shop, we did allow folks to get just one title. But the deadbeat rate on single-title subs winds up over 70% in the first six months. We bumped it to 3 titles for about a year and the deadbeat rate for 3-title subs was still around 50% in the first 6 months. Now our minimum is 5 titles. 

But I do have one single-title sub who’s been with us since the first month. He buys some back issues which gives him a reason to come in more often. We tried for a while to encouraged him to check out other titles. But he reads Flash and that’s it.

38 minutes ago, valiantman said:

There are millions of collectors.

33 minutes ago, Ryan. said:

He might not be wrong. My shop has a loyalty program that tracks by phone number. My current count of discrete "loyalty" customers is more than 2% of the population within a 25-mile radius of my shop. Yes, I get customers who drive 100 miles specifically to shop in my store, and I do get customers from other states who swing by when they are in town for other reasons. But it's a big number of locals regardless.

There aren't "millions of collectors" of slabbed keys. There aren't "millions of collectors" of full runs of Bronze Age horror titles. There aren't "millions of collectors" of every garbage title produced every month. But millions of collectors? Sure, maybe.

On 5/9/2020 at 3:59 PM, FlyingDonut said:

I've been accepting comics for consignment sales since 1997.

Heck I distinctly remember hearing my first wife coming back from the mailbox in 2003 saying “you got another Donut check”. 

I’ve consigned stuff through several different folks over the years when their customer base was a better fit than mine. I’ll send some stuff to MCS, some to CLink, some to a buddy that sells rare Funko Pops, some to a guy who sells vintage statues. But nobody can move random $15-20 comics like Donut.

McFarlane has been inconsistent about dating his stuff. Some of his covers he puts a date under the signature, some he just puts a line or a squiggle. But the only cover with an "87" under the signature is 298 which would make sense that he was drawing it in late 1987 for a March cover-dated book that would have been physically released around he first of the year. The '87 under the signature in that pinup page makes it certain that he initially drew it before 298 was released, whether before or contemporaneous with the production of issue 298.

He obviously "touched up" the artwork for the poster release months later. But the original version of the pinup got pulled off the shelf and published in Web Annual 4.

Reusing old artwork is somewhat common. The GI Joe Special released in 1995 is an example of this. Released after the entire 155-issue run was done, and using interior pages originally drawn by McFarlane for issue 61 but rejected (along with a McFarlane homage cover by Gosier). If you can make money selling something that's already been drawn, why pay for something new?

1 minute ago, Jitstark said:

Read Ice Cream Man off the back of this. I really like it but I can see it's not for everyone. I'll check out Regression.

Totally agree with you on Death Metal. Still can't believe how bad DC have dropped the ball after the strong start of Rebirth.

Well and that's why I said "based on what else you're reading". We don't recommend A Walk Through Hell to everyone either, but we have yet to recommend it to someone and have them disappointed. It's either a flavor you like or it isn't.

To be honest I think DC's mistake was in making so many of the Rebirth titles twice a month. There's only so much storytelling capital available and it replenishes only at a certain rate. There's a big difference between "guy has a story for character ZZZ that he's been dying to tell for years" and "guy gets assigned the next 8 issues of character ZZZ as a work for hire". You can only milk a cow so often and get milk worth drinking.

Interesting that that pinup was used in an issue after Spidey 300. But it was drawn before Spidey 298 was released. Note the ‘87 under the McFarlane signature.

2 hours ago, William-James88 said:

Yeah, I don't get it either. CGC has an exact service done to check if the book is the grade you want it for, and that's much cheaper than getting that worthless book slabbed.

 

They do. But only if you have 25 books in the same tier that you want screened all at the same grade. I've done submissions of 100 books at a time where I still didn't have 25 matches of tier and grade. If you're just burning off a $150 credit, a prescreen is far beyond your means.

I've wondered aloud if that's what Marvel was testing with its 20 randomly inserted Absolute Carnage books with the sketches inside the cover.

Far as I know several of those haven't been found yet. Have any of them even changed hands?

1 hour ago, William-James88 said:

But would those same people be willing to pay 80-100$ for those same books but in slabs? 

Typically the folks who make those comments are the same folks who refuse to buy any slabbed books under any circumstances.

I can put a raw 9.2 Spidey 300 on the wall at the same price as a slabbed 9.4 and there are a LARGE number of customers who will choose the raw book. Heck I can put a raw 8.5 up for "slabbed 9.4 minus slabbing costs" and it will sell faster off the wall than the slab will.

But there are lots of folks who think "I heard rich people really like those so you should sell them to rich people" with a very limited understanding of what it is the rich people actually like. True in comics, true in restaurants, true in most anything.

I don’t really view 5 years as long term. But in a “must be slabbed, must be from 1997-2017, must hold for at least 5 years”...

I’ll take three 9.8 copies of Saga 1 and sleep very comfortably.

1 hour ago, valiantman said:

Why not destroy 499 of the B&W variants on camera and sell pieces of the 1 of 1 remaining like splinters from a baseball bat and threads from pants? 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223966744445

Three decades ago I was a sportscard dealer. I still remember the excitement of cracking box after box of the inaugural Fleer Rookie Sensations Basketball for obscene profits. The first sportscard set with inserts, and the one that killed traditional collecting. Prior to that set, you could be reasonably assured of stocking what your customers wanted. Guy likes Nolan Ryan, here's the 4 Nolan Ryan cards that were made that year. I can't imagine a dealer trying to make a living face to face now. "You got any Lindor cards?" "Sure, here's 180 different ones from this season." "Oh, none of those are the ones I was looking for."

But oh, the joy of stretching the plastic ever so slightly and seeing a pack had two blue edges mixed in with all the white... *swoon*

New business idea

1) Order a store exclusive for Marvel issue with cover by popular artist.

2) Receive my 2,500 copies of the regular issue, 1,000 copies of my store exclusive, and 500 copies of the B&W store exclusive.

3) Shoot video destroying 499 of the B&W variants on camera and post on YouTube

4) Sell 1 of 1 remaining B&W variant for thousands of dollars

5) Repeat

Based on the rest of what you’re reading I would point you at Ice Cream Man. And for a recently ended series, Regression.

Sadly I have to echo the DC comments. The magazine sized Black Label stuff has been mostly solid. But even my most diehard DC subs are buying most of the superhero titles out of loyalty rather than excitement. And they’re all hoping Death Metal somehow re-energizes things. But it’s hope not confidence.

For every person in this thread expressing the opinion that slabbing these books was dumb, I hear an equal number of customers every week asking me why we don’t “get all these books graded”...

They’ll flip through a box of mid grade Silver Age and see 12-center after 12-center priced at $30-50 and in all seriousness will say things like “man these books are gorgeous you should get them all graded and you’ll make a fortune!”

None of these Hulk 1s are as cool as mine. 

45 minutes ago, Pat Thomas said:

OP, I bought the last 10,000 or so comics from my lcs when they shut down last year, and I've been able to move a ton of it by selling to mycomicshop.com   I'm just a collector and don't have any experience selling comics, but this has been one of the easiest ways to make extra money for the last 8 months.  Getting the books in order and entered into the database was time-consuming, but now I only have to let the orders build up, then pull and ship them. I opt for store credit, because it pays a little more, and I've been able to add almost $12,000 worth of comics to my personal collection. But there is a cash option. If you've never used their system, it might be worth it to put a portion of your dead stock into the database and monitor it for a couple of weeks. You might be surprised.

The 12,000 books referenced in the original post are FCBD books and have no collector value until years later (and even then only if they are of some new property that becomes a tv show).

We've sold a five-figure sum through mycomicshop the last couple years, but those are higher demand books. We would have to hire personnel specifically to put $3-5 books into the database and pack them, and the return likely wouldn't be there. In a choice between investing that time in grading and pricing our own books that will sticker at $10-20 or cataloging books worth cover price, it makes more sense to put the labor into the better books. The calculus would be different if no more collections would ever come in. But we will probably be offered 60-70 long boxes of back issues during June, and the return on those is better than on spending labor on the "dead stock".

10 Fast Track Moderns

4/23 - Delivered by carrier

4/28 - Received

4/30 - Scheduled for grading

5/4 - Grading / Quality Control

5/5 - Shipped

That's 5 business days from "received" to "shipped", and 9 business days from carrier delivery to shipped. I admit I was more than a little nervous at the lag between delivered and received. But that's stupidly fast start to finish.

2 minutes ago, DavidTheDavid said:

Fascinating to read this. Thanks for sharing.

Threads like this one are a big reason I don't publicize my shop on the boards. I can give better peeks behind the veil without giving advantages to my local competitors. It's a thin veil, plenty of boardies know exactly where my shop is. Some provided counsel years ago during the business plan phase, and others like Greggy plan to visit and just haven't yet. But as it is, I can share a little more behind the scenes this way.

12 minutes ago, NoMan said:

you'd think the comic companies themselves would help you out a bit. You'd think.

Most of the small press folks are. Making books returnable transfers all the risk back to the publisher.

Marvel was a little slow to respond, but is the steady girlfriend anyone would ask for. Their road map is pretty much exactly what I would have asked from them.

DC on the other hand, is the psycho girlfriend your friends warn you about who drinks too much tequila, throws shoes, and is liable to key your car when she misremembers something you said 3 years ago.

DC has been an engine of chaos throughout this process, and I can tell you that I will be reducing my shelf copy counts for DC products by at least 2/3 for the next several months and outright ceasing to carry the mediocre miniseries that I have always carried (at a loss) in the past. I'll continue filling every order my customers make, but when it comes to putting my own money on the line supporting a publisher, DC will be 6th in line behind Marvel, Boom, IDW, Image, and Dark Horse... they'll be roughly in line with AWA, Valiant, and Titan when I'm deciding where to throw capital in a given month. (And I have nothing against AWA, Valiant, or Titan, they're just not my first choices when allocating shelf space).

9 hours ago, DWL said:

Whomever wrote that, it would appear they wanted to be seen as hip and cool and up with the times.  But were hippies the target market for comics in 1970?  Were hippies ever the target market? 

Look at the topics in question five.  Makes you wonder whether there is a precedent for the current ham fisted effort by comic professionals to attract social justice warriors - cough, cough, snowflake and safespace - cough, cough.  

Just a thought.  Now get off my lawn, you darn kids!

I suspect some of it is that DC was pretty rudderless at that point. Marvel had been kicking their butt for years. Not a bad time to take the temperature of your audience and hope they have advice for you. This survey would have been written a couple months after Green Lantern 76 hit the stands, and during Wonder Woman’s I Ching phase. DC was already trying new things. Likely wanted to check in for feedback.

1 minute ago, Yorick said:

This is crazy.  The last Free Comic Day I attended we were all limited to only taking three free books.  There were more than three I wanted.  I wonder what the line-up of material was for this year?  Maybe you can offer a full "set" here on the Boards with the interested parties paying for shipping and a small "handling" fee?  But ship it at the lowest cost possible (I mean, just put 'em in an envelope and stick a stamp on it).

A full set is around 55 comics and would weigh 8lb even before you put it in a box. 

It’s probably $3 labor to pack each set, $13 to ship them. Hard to see a scenario where charging less than $50 a set would work.

Anyone looking for a set would be better off asking their LCS if they can buy a set for say $40. 

FWIW, our limit was 5 per adult and 7 per child the last couple years. We always eliminate the limit around 3pm but keep the limit the first several hours to give folks a fair shot. Hopefully in 2021 we will be back to that but I expect it will be 2022.

16 minutes ago, spreads said:

That's amazing.  

I can't imagine people would storm out the doors if you take the time to at least look at their books and politely decline.  I can't tell you how many collections I bought where the owner did bring them to a LCS and the owner wouldn't even look at them, let alone make/decline an offer!!

Unfortunately the process for many sellers goes something like this:

1) Find forgotten comics

2) Pick out a couple that look interesting and google them

3) Find eBay listing for comic in 9.8 at $1200

4) Become overjoyed that this box must be worth at least $10,000

5) Spend next several days mentally spending the money

6) Arrive at shop with box to sell

7) Get told “Your comic isn’t the same as what you found online. This isn’t worth $1200. Here’s a NM copy I have in my boxes for $8.”

8) Decide if they’re selling for $8 that $5 per issue must be fair as the shop will still profit $3. Ask for $1,000 for the box.

9) Get offered 50 cents a book.

10) Decide shop owner is a liar and a thief and maybe these really were worth $1200 each after all.

11) Storm out and leave horrible review.

Over/under on how many copies of this survey Greggy has? I’ll put the line at 130 copies. 

- I got this comic from an enemy!

- I’m fairly interested in Black People?

- I’m not very interested in Astrology.

- Give me that Bubble gum music, fam!!

No kid was eating bacon and eggs for breakfast?

Admit it, there’s just something precious about Supes saying “Let’s Rap!”