WoWitHurts

Not really original art but I always dug this promo poster I pulled off of my buddies store in the 80's

That never stopped Mike Mignola. He clearly hates to draw feet. There are usually some tall grass , rocks etc. throughout his books and when he does draw them they are little triangles. A lot of people like him. For me if an artist can draw an entertaining story how it's done is incidental. Bill Sienkiewicz's art can be out there and not prescribe to traditional styles but can still be enjoyable. Hell even Rob Liefeld has fans and his stuff can be laughable at times. A very subjective question.

I don't doubt it.

Do you put your advertising stickers on the back of the artwork like you do the CGC cases that go through you?

I am sure its just a difference in the ink levels at the press. I am sure the cover was marked Y100% M100%. Given the nature of offset printing and the operator running it can have wild variations. Magenta is also the most susceptible color to fading. Have you ever seen signage outdoors or in the window of a store when the parts that are supposed to be red are a mustard color or straight up yellow. Also, it was not uncommon for high print runs to run at different printers too. If a printing company like rr donnelly or world color had presses nearer the east coast and west coast it would be cheeper on distribution/shipping costs. Multiple presses can have variations. I am not saying this is what is going on here. I believe it is just a variation of magenta ink at the press.

It is my understanding that GPA doesn't track Comic Link sales so the GPA averages will not go up because of this sale. Only one 9.6 book in GPA sold for over 3k in 2016. I do not think two high sales is necessarily a pattern. Just because GPA's 12 month AVG is 2.7k doesn't make it true in the broader market. If for instance there were more sales through avenues that it doesn't track and any sales it may miss do to non-capture via eBay listings where CGC isn't listed in the heading then the AVG may be slightly more or less. GPA is a sample of data and is not exhaustive. I don't see it "exploding" it very well be 3 or 4 people out there who currently are fighting over available copies. I think if you stay the course you will be able to get one for $2700-$2900.

Overstreet edition #38 has the verbiage you speak of. I for one loved the hobgoblin and he was such a huge villain in the 80's and 238 is one of my favororite covers. To each their own. I suppose there are plenty of characters out there who's first appearances get crazy premium. Iron fist or sabertooth for instance. Taskmaster? really?

I too would like to know what sites your data comes from. You mention 8 sites but if those are not sites with many sales the sample data may not be enough to give a good/helpful result. I think it would be a good idea to have a link to how/where your data is gathered. GPA could also stand to incorporate this feature as a help to comic buyers and sellers. But in your case the data is free so I wouldn't expect as much in that regard. Good work though.

ASM 228 9.8 and Spawn 1 9.8. Packed great and as advertised. Thanks.

Not even sure. I just googled overstreet grading and pulled it out for him. It looked about right. Although it should be included to buy a 16x magnifier. And a black light and white gloves and a sterile environment. Wouldn't want to accidentally read it.

Not even sure. I just googled overstreet grading and pulled it out for him. It looked about right. Although it should be included to buy a 16x magnifier.

Here is a start. 9.8 NEAR MINT/MINT (NM/MT): Back to Top Nearly perfect in every way with only minor imperfections that keep it from the next higher grade. Only subtle bindery or printing defects are allowed. Cover is flat with no surface wear. Inks are bright with high reflectivity and minimal fading. Corners are cut square and sharp. Small, inconspicuous, lightly penciled, stamped or inked arrival dates are acceptable as long as they are in an unobtrusive location. Spine is tight and flat. Staples must be original, generally centered and clean with no rust. Paper is white, supple and fresh. Only the slightest interior tears are allowed. 9.6 NEAR MINT+ (NM+): Back to Top Nearly perfect with a minor additional virtue or virtues that raise it from Near Mint. Only subtle bindery or printing defects are allowed. No bindery tears are allowed, although on Golden Age books bindery tears of up to 1/8" have been noted. Cover is flat with no surface wear. Inks are bright with high reflectivity and a minimum of fading. One corner may be almost imperceptibly blunted, but still almost sharp and cut square. Almost imperceptible indentations are permissible, but no creases, bends, or color break. Small, inconspicuous, lightly penciled, stamped or inked arrival dates are acceptable as long as they are in an unobtrusive location. Spine is tight and flat. Staples must be original, generally centered, with only the slightest discoloration. Paper is off-white, supple and fresh. Only the slightest interior tears are allowed.

Didn't you liquidate your entire ASM run ? -J. I sold all of my variants but a couple and lost all of my SA to a flood.

Sold both my OO copies of 667 and 678 and bought a box of high grade CGC bronze and copper keys. I feel pretty good about it and I assume those two bordies who bought those books feel good about it too. Price is relative to what you can afford how bad you want it. I feel the same way Revat about not begirdging someone for overpricing a book. Though the person on ebay asking $500 for SSM #131 and $132 is a bit dilusional. ;-)

If there are good pictures it doesn't bother me. If I am at a convention most books don't carry a grade but may have a price reflecting a certain grade. Also, some dealers seem aggravated if you ask them to take it out of the bag and board so you can see it.

For you ASM fans out there. I have had this for 30 years since I pulled it off of my friends comic shop wall. Just recently framed it.

I think majority understands that they print more than ordered to cover damages. Which is understandable. How much more is the question. As it applies to "incentive" variants, based on the link I posted above, the answer looks to be 5%. As for regular covers, according to multiple boardies, it is in the 5-10% range. Whatever they do above that for re-orders looks to vary by another potential 5-10% (at least from the data ChuckGower posted from ten years ago). Either way, all of this is still based on how many copies of a book are actually ordered. None of these numbers exist in a vacuum. -J. Can we get a list, preferably with links to the relevant posts, of who these "multiple boardies" are and what they have said? "Multiple boardies" sounds awesome as a completely vague support for whatever you want it to mean, but having some idea of who these "multiple boardies" are and what their knowledge base on print runs is would be really useful. If you can't/won't produce this, please stop citing these unnamed "multiple boardies" as support. Already done. Scroll back a few a pages. And the link directly from Diamond shuts down the dispute anyway. -J. "WoWitHurts" is a user who has been here for about a year, and has 38 total posts. Chuck wasn't saying what you claimed he was saying. paul347 made the same errors you keep making. And Larry certainly isn't in your camp. So....either the "multiple boardies" were not reliable, or they didn't say what you were claiming they were saying. Quick question: does this "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with compostable_fertilizer" shtick work for you elsewhere...? Not sure What my membership status or my post count has to do with how much knowledge I have, I just don't have a whole lot of time to devote to this board. This is the first time I have really been on in a while. When I worked for Marvel Allison Gill was the head of production and I was in her office several times but mostly we talked via phone. She later jumped ship and went to work at DC and I didn't really speak with her after that. (Its funny too that she went to DC, she used to have a big sign in her office that said "If your comic is not on time it is a Delayed Comic with the DC bolded and italicized). When I did work for DC I mostly talked with the director of production (Rick Taylor). I am familiar with their production habits however not lately and not after Marvel was purchased by Disney.

I don't know value but I bought it for $25 and its one of my last variant ASM. I recently sold them all off. I will probably be selling this one soon too.

You know who hates drawing feet? Go pick up any Hellboy trade paperback and see how long it is before you see feet not obscured by rocks, grass or any random object. Mike M hates feet!!!

Apples to helmets. Can you show me some variants where the reason a variant cover took off that didn't have a ratio that took off for being a better cover and not based on "rarity" or some other determining factor? Huh, can you show me any comic that has done that? Not sure if my wording is off, or if you are confused as to my point. I can't think of a single 1:1 variant that took off (a book with multiple covers that 1 cover took off simply because it was better than the rest). The variants that do take off are associated with manufactured rarity. There are all kinds of books that take off that don't have rarity simply because of their cover art. Does it not really boil down to popularity/demand versus supply? Rarity alone does not dictate worth. Sometimes the demand for a variant comes from completionists wanting it for their collection regardless of how it looks. Or people who collect variants in general. Yes they are manufactured rarity but so is anything where demand outstrips supply. I was an ASM collector and pursued all variants until recently. It got to be cost prohibitive to continue so I sold all of my variants save for ASM 667 Dell otto and 678 Venom cover. So from my point of view Marvel killed it for me and made it impossible to collect what I wanted to collect. So I stopped.

Not fact. The printer clearly knows.

ASM 607 for me.

Just got these back last week.

thanks yoda

The only real cost to a publisher who is engaging in this is to do a cover swap during the press run which usually involves a onetime setup cost which last time I had a discussion with a printer about this was $500. Then the unit price which is tied to the overall print run so really not that expensive at all. If a director of production at any publisher printing more than they have to aside from some small overages should not have his job for very long as they are just wasting money. These days publishers know more precisely how many books were ordered and what number they need to print on any given book and they are just bad business men/women if they grossly overprint anything.