ADAMANTIUM

On 5/5/2024 at 6:52 PM, frozentundraguy said:

I also missed the crease on Web of Spidey, as I was in a hurry to get out of town for the weekend.

There is a few of us as you go through the thread! 😜 Lol

To be clear, prescreens never made sense to me, and depending on the book in question they still don't, not everything needs to be in a cgc slab. We were all on the same page, I think it was just boring to have to explain IT  

On 5/5/2024 at 2:18 PM, JollyComics said:

Restoration issue and PGM threads are beneficial because their insights upon my books that will help my decision to save the money from submitting my books.

All of my books were sold as is and as it described.  Yes, some are losses but it's better than sending them to CGC.

Ya I don't think anyone was yay, but mostly nay, sorry for rubbishing up the thread. To hear it mentioned is always in a positive light, which confused me is all.

Chalk this up to a lazy Sunday after yardwork was finished 😂 

On 5/5/2024 at 2:05 PM, Kramerica said:

The whole thing is an exhausting waste of time and money $$$. Especially writing about it. Sheesh. I'm done.

ah never mind, didn't mean to make you exasperated. Do it or don't, all good, but thanks for the clarification, as I hadn't ever had it explained and I couldn't figure it out.

No worries

On 5/5/2024 at 2:03 PM, Kramerica said:

Personally I've done it one in a submission of Bronze and Copper age Spidey stuff and put the minimum at 9.4. They all passed and got the grades. I was happy. But I was under the impression that they would send any rejects back with my submission.

I believe they send them back, but what he might means is the cost to ship separately from the slabs that passed.

Transitionally, I've sent in books that it would have been easier to just buy 9.6 slab, rather than try my hand at a raw, for instance my "Web of Spider-man #1" came back 9.0  even though no press and it was only the $23 cost at the time to slab  

The book was found raw for $1 so I sent it.

It is still technically cheaper sometimes to do so when paying for a already slabbed 9.6 cgc that is going to cost me $50 or $60 before tax and shipping

I see that is pretty much a no-win scenario for me, except I like the book and it is ok in a registry I guess  

On 5/5/2024 at 1:57 PM, Darwination said:

I was in a comic shop down in Birmingham last week and saw tons of 20 and 30 dollar very new modern slabs even at 9.8   I don't quite understand the rush to put anything and everything in a box.  Only the house wins with a lot of these books...

ya I edited, only one of my LCS send in a bunch of moderns fresh off the rack with no history of sales

On 5/5/2024 at 1:57 PM, Kramerica said:

It adds up to a huge waste of time is what it does. The CGC 9.8 variant market (with a possiible Sig Ser) is a huge sinkhole for time and money unless you can pass on the pressing and 100% you're going to get a 9.8 and then sell before anyone else gets their 9.8 copy up. I watched my ex-Boss try to do this for years with 1:50 and 1:00 variants and signings and special books and whatever was hot (or going to be in a few weeks) and he lost his big time. Nothing like selling a CGC 9.6 modern variant for $20.00.

ya that is kind of iffy on the face of it, I guess I get why it is an "option" but seems like a lot of work even in housing costs. One LCS by me does it, I guess I should ask them, but weird.

On 5/5/2024 at 1:58 PM, JollyComics said:

@ADAMANTIUM

If your book is rejected, you have to pay for the returning mail.  That's why I never use a reject fee.  

Ya that is where I'm at. I send in low value books, but nothing that doesn't have a history in sales, and definitely not something just random fresh off the stands to be 1st to market. 

On 5/5/2024 at 2:00 PM, Kramerica said:

Well, you and I might take the book for $25.00 because we actually like it. These are people who have got it in their minds that their going to flip these books for the GPA high at that minute all the time. It's a time consuming gable where most everyone loses.

I was coming from all those who gave greggy a hard time for not prescreening  so from that frame of reference most of his bronze and copper (and depending on acquisition cost even in Canada shipping) it seemed a reject would be too much of a burn from a prescreen. 1st to market stuff would be hard to catch and release so I'm not "on that level"  

In other words, it cost you now the $10 reject and the cost to press to keep it raw, say $25 on its own.

To avoid a $36 cost to press and slab and come away with a slabbed 9.4? 

I must not have dealer issues, but I'd take the slab idk for $36, rather than have thrown $25 down the drain.

@Kramerica I guess I get it, I send in low value stuff, but that means minor minor minor keys and not just a random new book with no history. so idk

On 5/5/2024 at 1:35 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

well from the iron fist figure, it looks like the art was in the corner box, which made me look at the others that might look the same way for them?

Maybe try googling "corner box art print 1970's?"

"marvel comics corner box figure art" art print "1980's" "destroy spider-man my puppet" - Search Images (bing.com)

No, I had no luck with that either, even with the tagline from Iron Man  I thought perhaps it was an ad page but idk

On 5/5/2024 at 1:33 PM, shadroch said:

  Thank you.  That is why I put it in copper, but it is strange there are no X-Men. The inclusion of Tigra and Magneto strikes me as odd.

well from the iron fist figure, it looks like the art was in the corner box, which made me look at the others that might look the same way for them?

Maybe try googling "corner box art print 1970's?"

On 5/5/2024 at 1:17 PM, Kramerica said:

Most of those dealers will use the pre-screening service so that they only get 9.8's. It may cost $8.00 or whatever for a book that doesn't make the prescreen it but it's better than getting a 9.4 or 9.6 and losing money. I'm seeing 9.6's losing money straight up as well. And then having to pay taxes on the sale. It's the whole "Manufactured Collectible" process being used on variants, first apps that never hit and CGC Sig Series books (those are the worst). People just haven't learned and they're going to lose their on these manufactured collectibles. 

that never made sense to me 

A modern only on average costs $25 to $27 to grade, an $8 reject is more like $10 when you factor in shipping there and back, and are you telling me a 9.4 slab can't be sold for $15 to $17 "or more" to just sell a slab instead of the $10 raw reject? with the $10 cost of a reject and $27 cost of a slab?

C'mon something doesn't add up  

I was at 9.6 with my gut, I'll stick with it on the heir to the Empire, Lord knows

Thanks again and always @CGC Mike for giving us some quality time on things. I never feel the pressure on it anymore, because it's all in good fun! Thanks for forgiving our blunders with heart ❤️

On 5/4/2024 at 7:47 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

what crease?

I must have thought it was part of the web  

I'm "sticking" to that story, pun intended!

On 5/4/2024 at 5:47 PM, Off Panel said:

I can finally say I'm a member of the Cameo Club!

I hear you guys party hard!

BEAUTIFUL  

On 5/4/2024 at 7:49 PM, grendelbo said:

My only bullseye this round. 

On 5/4/2024 at 7:20 PM, BriD. said:

I've often thought it weird that I don't own any "mystique covers"  

Unless you count Ms Marvel #17 or Avengers annual #10. Such a major character that even had her own series, and yet  

I hesitate to respond, definitely no never mind either way, but NM #98 and IH 180/181 might have done their spiking to come back down to earth?
The only "books" that I heard people spiking with due to the Deadpool/Wolverine flick was Wolverine #'s 154/155, but IDK how "true" that is either?  

On 5/4/2024 at 5:57 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

May the 4th be with you!

Insert Raising Arizona gif here

On 5/3/2024 at 9:59 PM, grendelbo said:

+1

Prevalent in the 90s. What were we thinking?

What I recall? As I didn't put notes in my scrapbook ....

I want to say it was a pivotal moment when Rogue was contemplating cyclops and jeans marriage. I was new to that kind of storytelling,  but couldn't name a specific issue

On 5/3/2024 at 9:55 PM, Hepcat said:

Regardless of the skill of the artist, I hate that style of cover. No situational peril portrayed, just a bunch of heroes grimacing and trying to look tough.

Perfect for scrapbooking though

On 5/3/2024 at 9:44 PM, grendelbo said:

On 5/3/2024 at 9:38 PM, Ken Aldred said:

I'm probably going to get banned from the thread for being too ridiculous, but...

On 5/3/2024 at 9:37 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

My gut said Jim Lee, but then it was a little too slender, but now makes sense with the image time period, pun intended.

I thought silvistri when I doubted, but idk that Rogue was in too much silvestri art, I could be wrong. More new mutants and elektra? Probably at least did a couple of Rogue but idk

Ya from 1987 to 1990 X-men, I guess that time period I thought was short hair

No worries edit to say third choice would be art adams but I knew that couldn't be it

On 5/3/2024 at 9:30 PM, Ken Aldred said:

On 5/3/2024 at 9:13 PM, grendelbo said:

Jim Lee

I'd have guessed Marc Silvestri on that one.

My gut said Jim Lee, but then it was a little too slender, but now makes sense with the image time period, pun intended.

On 5/3/2024 at 9:35 PM, Ken Aldred said:

I don't doubt you. Just seemed more Silvestri's 80's style on X-Men to me.

I thought silvistri when I doubted, but idk that Rogue was in too much silvestri art, I could be wrong. More new mutants and elektra? Probably at least did a couple of Rogue but idk