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On 5/24/2017 at 10:53 AM, tomo said:

Not necessarily Bronze Age...

Exactly.

Laugh it up Einstein, and even for someone of your obviously-limited imagination you should be able to understand that Copper or Modern simply cannot keep getting extended ad infinitum. What happens in 2050? 2075? 2100? Assuming humankind is still around and we have comics, is Copper going to get 50 years and Modern another 50 years?

At some point we need an age to define the early-90's to mid-2000's, and that is what I am referring to.

Still waiting to see these Variants...

On 10/22/2014 at 9:29 PM, TupennyConan said:

Is there a thread about it?

Probably, if you went to the proper MODERN forum.

20 hours ago, wormboy said:

Looks like it's off center in the slab to me.

Maybe one of the 'old new' slabs with the mylar sheets instead of the inner well?

The left edge is way off, but the right edge is almost straight.

Open it in a graphics program and using the top-edge as your guide, compare it to the bottom edge. Even accounting for some visual warping that is a big difference.

On 5/16/2017 at 6:19 PM, Ken Aldred said:

Not really obscure because it's considered one of the best stories of the 70s.

The Manhunter (short) series was mined for virtually every great character of the 70's, not to mention was the basis for Frank Miller's DD work.

5 hours ago, Ghostzapper said:

You have a double cover Spider-Man 35 Cent Variant? If you don't want to show off in this thread send me a PM if possible, I would love to see it.

Thanks!

Sorry, they are all buried and as many on here know, they are just a "mass of stuff" right now.

On 5/22/2017 at 9:07 AM, Ghostzapper said:

The Cap #212 is the only 35 Cent Variant that has that double variant. I've only seen one Double Cover 35 Cent Variant and that was an Inhumans #12 owned by board member cosmic-spider-man. Another Rare variant oddity.

I have one, it's one of the Amazing Spider-man issues. I think 172.

Is that book badly miscut or is something going on in the photo?

On 5/15/2017 at 2:27 PM, AGGIEZ said:

If I hit a 9.8 on first try, that doesn't mean my book is worth less than someone that hit it after 30+ rejects.

Obviously I am talking about the entire market a whole, as "one guy" cannot exist in a vacuum when selling readily-available CGC comics - it's one big pool.

On 5/13/2017 at 2:53 PM, Lazyboy said:

It was the same on the old boards for short posts.  The old boards were more condensed in general, but there will always be wasted space.

But the "old boards" had an option to "disable avatars" that allowed for a MUCH slimmer view of each post.

9 hours ago, Lazyboy said:

Even if he never offers praise, that's different than him "constantly railing on about Hollywood and DC taking his creations and turning them into something else ."

Come on, you've never read his comments about V for Vendetta or how he "put a curse" on the Watchmen production"? The guy lives to rail against the Hollywood adaptation machine, but then is the ultimate hypocrite by doing the same thing and Moore-adapting literary classics to comics.

8 hours ago, divad said:

So, you're saying any 30 year-old slabbed 9.8 is worth $50-100? I'm not into that myself, but it sounds about right.

That's exactly what I'm saying - there is a "cost" associated with getting a 9.8 and sellers have to make money.

6 hours ago, Chuck Gower said:

Except they DIDN'T turn ANYONE female....

This is exactly what I mean by someone commenting on these things who a) hasn't read any of it and b) is completely misinformed about what it is.

LOL, you act as if these characters are real - here's a hint, the WRITERS create all this FICTIONAL content and can do whatever they want. So when Jane Foster suddenly becomes Thor, a writer, editor and likely publisher decided to do this. Get it?

2 hours ago, Bird said:

well, you cannot abuse a literary creation. And Alan Moore used characters in the public domain from long ago. But the point is that he created wholly original works utilizing existing characters and sold them on their own merits. He did not exploit the works or creators by calling his books continuations of the earlier work; he actually created new things.

Welcome to the boards, Mr Moore.

Seriously, no one else could believe that utter BS. Seriously, he takes incredibly well know, classic, literary characters like Dr Jekyl & Mister Hyde, The Invisible Man, Prof. Moriarty, Fu Manchu, Captain Nemo, Allan Quartermain, Ishmael, among many others, and simply because he thinks of a more "superhero team name" for the characters, these are somehow "his own original creation"? Remember, this has nothing to do with public domain (which is based on monetary compensation), and even if these books are in the PD, I can't just scan a copy of Sherlock Holmes and put my name on it.

My pet peeve is how BIG and BLOATED everything is and the sheer amount of wasted white space. Just look at each post, there is a mass of white space below in a 1-line comment.

2 hours ago, Lazyboy said:

No, he doesn't. He has complained about DC legally stealing control of Watchmen and V for Vendetta (about which he is still clearly very bitter), but he has never complained about the use of his other creations.

And what other original creations would those be that were adapted into movies? LOEG is long-existing characters, so is From Hell, albeit non-fiction, and even so, he hated all those movies, along with Constantine, which he partially created. I have never heard a good word about anything that Moore was remotely involved with in comics, and was subsequently taken over and adapted by someone else.

2 hours ago, Bird said:

One of the key differences is you have to read LoEG or Lost Girls to know that he is using characters from previous works. He didn't exploit the connection by calling it Furthers Adventures of Captain Nemo and Allan Quartermain or Lost Innocence of Alice from Wonderland, or whatever. It may be a subtle distinction but an important one that many miss.

 

This sounds like Alan Moore fanboy-speak, as there is absolutely no disputing that Moore used and abused existing and extremely recognizable literary characters, created by giants of the literary world, and I don't care if he called it "My Butt in a Frying Pan". The title means absolutely nothing.

He made a intuitive leap of logic and rather than fruitlessly trying to decode that artifact-filled image, he stuck with the Watcher (which it clearly was) and understood that in that era, What If was really the Watcher's main gig and he really didn't guest-star on any consistent basis. Plus, you can tell it's a thicker, non-standard sized book (which is why I was thinking it might be a Charlton or something with their shingle-like paper quality), which again points to the square-bound What If series.

It was good work, and like many of us, I made the mistake of concentrating on the artifacts on the image too much. bronze_rules didn't and went for the glory.

On 5/11/2017 at 2:08 PM, kav said:

Aside from Watchmen, Miracleman and Top ten I find Alan Moore's stuff to be annoying.  It's 'look how clever I am' stuff.

I felt that way reading "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" which was pompous, irritating and quite hypocritical of Moore.

He constantly rails on about Hollywood and DC taking his creations and turning them into something else, and he goes and rapes (literally) some of the literary world's most classic and important characters, and seems to not understand the hypocrisy.

4 hours ago, piper said:

I love Watchmen the limited series, but I struggled to stay awake during the movie. I found the story wasn't adapted well to the medium. 

The problem with Watchmen was that they made a hugely significant change to the ending (which is alright, given the medium) but then kept the rest of the story 99% loyal to the graphic novel.

The movie then made no logical sense, and you had characters (especially Manhattan) acting exactly the same and spouting the same dialogue as the GN when their entire character motivation should have done a 180.

On 4/2/2017 at 9:49 AM, romanheart said:

Marvel's Falling Sales

Marvel VP blames diversity for falling sales

Personally, I think hollow stories and never-ending series renumbering is killing them.

I think it was the "let's turn everyone female" that did it, and even the female readers hated it - they wanted NEW female characters, not retrofit the classic male ones.

35 minutes ago, Hekla said:

but also my favorite books were changing direction at the time (post-Byrne and 2nd Cockrum X-men, post-Miller Daredevil era) so it seemed like a good time to stop.

Same thing here. That change from Bronze to Copper circa '80-'81 was a real harsh one, and the art just went into the toilet on most titles - even ASM was bad and stuff like Avengers and MTU was unreadable. Things picked up a year or so later, but I was long gone.

2 hours ago, vaillant said:

If we can consider yellow instead of purple a "variant" so then… yes, the italian edition of ASM #238 is also a "variant"…

 

Post the Purple Italian one.

2 hours ago, vaillant said:

And anyway, the OP wasn’t talking about variants, but about italian editions. Usual misuse of words.

Hey, when someone clearly titles something "Foreign book variants" it's not weird to expect some actual variants.