joe_collector

Just crazy:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AVENGERS-ANNUAL-10-1ST-APPEARANCE-OF-ROGUE-MEGA-KEY-STARTS-99-CENTS-/111729532594?hash=item1a03995eb2&autorefresh=true

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/STRANGE-TALES-169-NM-MINT-9-8-CGC-READY-ORIGIN-1ST-BROTHER-VooDOO-ROMITA-/361351862653?hash=item54223fd97d

I highly doubt that last book gets paid for - looks more like a set of punishment bids.

Why would changing the Bronze timeline affect sales?

Because at that time, Bronze was HOT and Copper was DEAD.

So OS dealers decided that renaming previously-denoted "Early Copper Age" books as "Late-Bronze" would make those comics more attractive and easier to sell to newbie speculators. And they were right, but it's very sad that OS would stoop so low just to make a buck.

At an earlier point, there was also a movement to classify 1970-72 books as "late-Silver" (again, to artificially increase demand) but thankfully that never gained much steam.

there's a pretty large difference between getting scammed and being on the wrong end of a bad investment because you don't have the intelligence or experience to act more discerningly.

See, that's where you and I are different.

You seem to think that anyone dumber or less-experienced than you is a worthy mark that it is totally fine to take money from ("it's their own fault they don't have the intelligence or experience"), while I believe society has a duty to protect those less-intellectually-blessed from being taken advantage of by the bottom-dwellers.

Your Motto:

Does it really matter the cutof/starting dates are for these Ages? Gets downright ridiculous the lengths some boardies go to argue/inform people about this.

If it doesn't matter, then why do greedy OS advisers keep changing it?

Prior to the "let's get rid of our 1982-84 overstock" scam, whereby OS artificially extended the BA to 1984, there were NO real arguments about the End of the BA (Death of Phoenix/Days of Future Past and the Start of the CA (1981/82 - a massive number of reasons), and it was money-hungry dealers that caused the current problems.

They should have left well enough alone, rather than only thinking about $$$$.

Just be guy A or B, take your profits and go. Who cares if people choose to make some money this way? Who cares if some people lose money this way? If people at the end get stuck with the bag....who cares?

I do. I have this troublesome thing called E-M-P-A-T-H-Y that makes me feel bad when some people simply aren't quick enough to avoid the ne'er do wells of society.

These people don't wake up one day wanting to own swamp land in Florida any more than they wake up wanting to buy the first appearance of some 3rd-rate knob. Someone, be it a land broker or comic dealer, has manipulated them into buying a "hot deal".

left holding the bag = got scammed

My mind has a tough time considering anything with a 60 cent cover price bronze (and, frankly, I am on the fence about 50 centers) even though I know bronze has expanded and expanded like how a "good neighborhood" name is being used to describe 5-10 blocks into neighboring "not as good" neighborhoods.

Yeah, it was those crazy, short-sighted OS advisors who didn't want to wait for the Copper books to explode and artificially forward-dated the BA in order to sell off the crates full of 1982-84 books they had languishing in the warehouse.

It's sad really.

If you're looking on eBay, it would be classified as a Bronze Age (1970-83). It was released June '83. (Can't wait to hear how I'm wrong about this one)

You're not wrong, just misinformed, as virtually no one adhered to the more-recent OS change when the dealers moved up the BA date to 1984 (Secret Wars??? ), wanting to turn "worthless early-Copper" into "valuable high-grade late-Bronze" - that was *before* Copper took off and I bet they regret that stupidity now.

I would estimate the majority of informed, longtime collectors would select 1979-81 as the End of the Bronze Age and 1981-82 as the Start of the Copper Age.

There are just too many seminal books (Warrior Magazine, Love & Rockets, Marvel Graphic Novels, Pacific, etc.), events (New EiCs at Marvel/DC, creator royalties/ownership), changes (no more cartoon books, horror comics/reprint titles all cancelled, Warren/Spire/Harvey shuts down, Contest of Champions starts mini-series wave), etc. for Bronze to go too far out of 1981.

Could be considered a Bronze age as well. Right on that border.

No, I think that entire "New" Supergirl series is considered Copper, and definitely by issue 8 though.

What if he's ugly and rich?

 

You do the math.

 

 

This picture raises so many questions, all with assuredly hilarious answers.

 

That chair must be made out of adamantium

But even so, check out the buckling on the arm rest.

What if he's ugly and rich?

You do the math.

For what it's worth, the cover date on Wizard #1 was September 1991.

I think we're talking about Wizard: The Guide to Comics as the first issue.

Paul D'Amato

Slowass.

Check this out:

The actor I'm thinking of is from the 1970's and was the inspiration that John Byrne modeled from when drawing the character.

Paul D’Amato

Who would be your ideal actor to play Wolverine?

 

With a time machine, 1980's Mel Gibson, especially as he was perfect as Riggs, the "best at what he does, and what he does is kill people" ode to Wolverine. Also see Braveheart.

 

Short, wild hair, feral, hirsute, prone to fits of rage, very animal-like in his body type, movement and mannerisms, but still the era's sex symbol.

 

 

When did Wolverine become a "sex symbol"

You're kidding right? He's got more tail than Nightcrawler - just ask Jean Grey.

Who would be your ideal actor to play Wolverine?

With a time machine, 1980's Mel Gibson, especially as he was perfect as Riggs, the "best at what he does, and what he does is kill people" ode to Wolverine. Also see Braveheart.

Short, wild hair, feral, hirsute, prone to fits of rage, very animal-like in his body type, movement and mannerisms, but still the era's sex symbol.

im not saying anything about his acting chops or lack there of. what im saying is he has the perfect build. he could have been the model for the character.

Come on, he's way, way, way too tall.

But then again... this could be a fun show also

I would literally give $50 to anyone who could excise that horrible song from my memory banks.

Here's my favorite dialogue concerning assumptions...

Seriously, get over yourself.. quick.

Seeing "July 1991" listed on Wiki, in various comic articles, other reputable sites, etc. is NOT an assumption based on nothing, it is based on multiple attributions from relevant sources.

What relevant source attributions do you have that discount July 1991 as a publication date for the first Wizard book?

Issue 1 has a date of Sept 1991 and the original Guide to Comics has no cover date. The original issue could be from August, July or even earlier. Did you use Wiki to get your info because that's where it says the first publication was in July?

I've seen July 1991 mentioned on multiple sites, so I just assumed it was confirmed long ago by people/dealers who actually bought/sold it off the shelves.

After copper,it should be tin,or aluminum.Then..plastic

That's why I put forward Tinfoil as a potential name for the 1990's. Tin + Shiny + Common + Worthless.

Stock (WIZD) down another 42% today after getting pummeled 28% last Friday on no apparent news. Full disclosure I have (fortunately at this point), a very small position in the stock.

 

It's because they gave Carbo a TV Show. I'd sell all my stock after finding that out! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/contv-launches-original-series-comic-100000789.html

So Mike finally got an actual show? Some jokster on here was quite prescient.

Quit trying to control the conversation.

 

Quit refusing to go to school and learn about the concepts of time and space.

 

Curses! Foiled again!!

 

Hey, how about the "Wizard Age" as a potential name?

First issue July 1991

Final issue March 2011

Quit trying to control the conversation.

Quit refusing to go to school and learn about the concepts of time and space.

I'm one who agrees that the death of Superman delineates the end of the Copper age

Nah, the Death of Superman is more like ASM 121, the "culmination" of the era, but making it the end point totally ignores the major trends of the Foil/Chromium Age, like mass speculation (Spider-man #1, 1990), Image (1992), Valiant (1990), Wizard (1991), etc.

And BTW, the first Wizard mag was July 1991, and might actually be a great benchmark for a definite point where the MA could not go past. After all, it was created by many of the very trends listed above.