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Readcomix

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  1. 10 hours ago, Martin Sinescu said:

    For me, FF 48 would be the #1 key from this time period without question, but 'Tec 359 almost definitely has second place cemented. I mean, can we just step back for a minute and get some perspective.... it's freaking Batgirl. I can't even believe Black Panther is anywhere close to Batgirl in significance. Is this just because of his recent movie appearances? Is it because FF 52 is more expensive? I would've thought BP was a B- or even C-list hero for Marvel until maybe the last 10 or so years. I seriously don't even remember Black Panther from when I grew up reading comics. Admittedly, I didn't read much Avengers or FF if that's where he was sequestered, but I certainly read plenty of Marvel through the 80's and 90's and I swear he wasn't even a blip on the radar. Has this guy really put together a more impressive body of work than Batgirl over the last 50 years? 

    Funny ... When you say Batgirl, I think "another B lister too" but then you mention body of work and I realize more importantly Tec 359 is the first Barbara Gordon, which means Oracle too...Suicide Squad, Birds of Prey etc...Most of Panther's heat (I think....Does he even carry a title today?) is movie future anticipated popularity related.

    So Tec 359 is more like a TTA 27; we commonly call it first Ant-Man; some quibble it's 35 when the same character becomes Ant-Man, but the real important point is it's the first Hank Pym. Much more major Marvel player when viewed that way. Same can be said for Barbara Gordon, really.

    To be clear for my part, the majority of the reason I rank FF52 near the top (I still say FF48) is its comics' Jackie Robinson moment, for the way and time in which Marvel did it.

    Yes Dell had Lobo first, but the boxing champ Jack Johnson also preceded Jackie Robinson. (shrug)

  2. Not to mention...its a publisher-produced fanzine, not a comic. They are cool, they are collectible, but they are a niche. Like sigs, like price variants etc, not every collector actively pursues them.

    I should add....they are also a much smaller niche than the two examples I used, too.

  3. 2 hours ago, Jking3437 said:

    20k lol

     

    2 hours ago, Jking3437 said:

    20k lol

    Ok, I couldn't resist....Using a back of the envelope calculation (sales on Heritage, 2014 til now, all 5.5 to 6.5 range) would've run that patient buyer of these 7 mid-grade slabs over those 3.5 years...$$41,651.70! 

    Of course, the Showcase 4 was $31,070 of that number, but nothing was under $900.

    Somebody else can do the calculations for Marvel Tales 1, Marvel Collectors Item Classics 1 and the other SA Secret Origins volume. :ohnoez:

  4. 7 hours ago, AGGIEZ said:

     

    I like this post. Good stuff. I guess, like anything else, "significant" is subjective. From the perspective of the cosmic universe, yes, FF#48 is certainly a more significant key and has opened up a much larger universe than what the Black Panther will open up with Wakanda....on the pages and on the silver screen. If you're looking at "significant" from a character recognition perspective, and from a market value perspective, FF#52 will or has already outpaced FF#48. If Marvel ever gets the rights back that will surely change but for now, from that angle, FF#52 wins in my book.

    I'd agree with you. I'd say the answer can vary depending Upon how the OP means the question, but looking at the comic world today and out to line of sight, it probably does come down to these two. (Though if Tec 359 eclipses both in the long run from the major character perspective, I won't be surprised. I think the females are DC's big bet future. Just a hunch.)

  5. 9 hours ago, Readcomix said:

    LAST CALL! Will close this and wrap up when I get up in the a.m. 

    Viewing a Copper/90's collection tomorrow on the way home; if I take it I will offer anything from there that I don't plan to keep in its own, new thread. Thanks all! 

    Ok, I am declaring this thread closed. Thanks to all for looking, and to all buyers! Let's connect via PM on shipping addresses, shipping costs, etc.

    Again, if I land this batch this afternoon, I may have more goodies to share from this era.

  6. 9 hours ago, OtherEric said:

    If anybody has a sane reason why Buster Crabbe #5 isn't in the same range as the FF 209-216 and WSF 29, I would love to hear it.  If anything, it should be more because of the amazing Williamson/ Krenkel/ Orlando story that goes with the cover.

    Update:  Let's get a better view of the cover, even if it is somewhat foxed:

    Buster_Crabbe_05.jpg

    Holy ! Never seen that before! That's the only reason I can give you.

    I agree western and crime are relatively unmined territory, especially westerns. There's at least a few high profile crime keys/covers; westerns pretty much zilch. (Bobby Benson 14 gets chased for the cover, but it's a bargain compared to its crime/horror peer group in the decapitations genre.)

  7. 1 minute ago, bronze johnny said:

    According to GCD, the cover to Secret Origins was done by Sprang (Bats & Supes), Jack Kirby (Challies), Gil Kane (Adam Strange & Green Lantern), Ross Andru (Wonder Woman), Joe Certa (Martian Manhunter), Lee Elias (Green Arrow), and Carmine  Infantino (Flash). Where else would you find all these legends on one cover?

    I was thinking about that as I looked it over. Then I got to thinking, "What would it cost me to assemble a mid-grade pile of Showcase 4,6,17; GL 1, Wonder Woman 105, Tec 225, World's Finest 71???"

  8. 2 minutes ago, bronze johnny said:

    Secret Origins 1 and Marvel Tales 1 may not be the first annuals but they may have had a greater influence on readers back then- especially MT 1. Think about this- MT 1 is the first reprint and only annual that kicks off the most successful reprint run in comic book history (Spidey had a hand in this of course). 

    I think so!

    As to DC annuals, did any precede Secret Origins #1? (1961). I'm too comfortable to go dig out its peers, and someone around probably knows for certain anyway.

    Maybe we need a square-bound Silver Age thread! Now you've got me thinking about how very awesome, for very different reasons, the first two Strange Tales annuals are!