Same here. I had ASM 100-200 in second gen holders. Not one single ring, scratch or visibility problem. The new cases are clearer, and a fortress as Bob says, but the visual flaws are simply unacceptable. Joking aside, and you know how I feel about it if you've read my posts in the NR poll thread, but I simply cannot understand why serious collectors make excuses for CGC in this area. 'Trying to improve things' is just not good enough. 'It's getting better' is not good enough. Would they impart the same good will to their supermarket if a % of their food was always off? Absolutely not! I don't get it.