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5 minutes ago, ESeffinga said:

I didn’t come around to truly appreciate Kirby until the 90s.

I was too late to the 60s party, and by the time I got into comics, he was an old timer. Old fashioned and “boring”, with super questionable anatomy.

My appreciation of his blocky powerful style came with time. And then I started to appreciate the creativity, and his unique visual language. And ultimately his contribution to comics as a storyteller, and the medium in general.

 

 

Very honest and as Kirby is so revered today it might be considered heresy to admit not knowing from the get go he was the King.

However I suspect you are not alone. By the time I bought my first Kirby OA I felt he was an amazing unique artist.

As kids though it was my youngest brother who championed Kirby as the greatest. I was on the fence on most things not FF. Over time I began to see Kirby’s frenetic vision and unmatched contributions to comics.

8 hours ago, exitmusicblue said:

Great topic; probably Matt Baker for me.  I don't think I "got" his appeal -- or why there were always a gazillion Baker threads in the GA section -- until a couple of his covers legit took my breath away.  Obtaining his Seven Seas #1 OA was like a dream, and helped me graduate from just picking up nostalgic childhood faves.

Since then, that initial magnetic pull has subsided somewhat as I've broadened my horizons + discovered other (greater) greats, but I owe Baker and his art a debt of gratitude for that early momentum.

I looked the cover up and wow I really liked it. Great point about Baker’s work opening your mind to other artists. I didn’t say it but Moebius has the same effect on me. Opened my eyes and mind not just to his work but to others.

3 hours ago, vodou said:

Frank Robbins. Hated him in comics form until I saw actual originals. Then I flipped sides.

1970s Kirby...approximately the same experience as Robbins. Hate of square fingers became love of square fingers (especially in Celestial judgement form!) Still not on board with yuge fingers though.

Dave Cooper when I thought only skinny models were sexy, I've come to love well-carried filled-out look now too (with some help from Frazetta and Krenkels classic chub babes!)

Great examples with your thought process. Especially Frank Robbins as I had to overcome a good number of Opinionated collectors that loathe his work to appreciate it. 

On 8/10/2019 at 8:28 AM, batman_fan said:

that right there is message board gold 

Hey maybe inquire isn’t so bad. I see we have a million dollar price on a Buscema  eBay auction this morning.

I don’t know which is worse ha ha. As our boy Charlie would say “good grief.”

Mary Jane looks absolutely stunning. Congratulations on this one. Wow !

Los Bros finally put a price on something? Dude I’ll buy but ask your brother if he can waive the shipping fee.

2 hours ago, BCarter27 said:

Cap is so tiny on there. Red Skull fans out there? Personally, I don't like this above $80-90K.

I do think it’ll go higher but some bidders  will undoubtedly think what you’re thinking. Not enough Cap!

2 hours ago, Bronty said:

Terrific cover.   250 seems fair. 

I’d pay it if I had it.

3 hours ago, vodou said:

200 + 40 = 240 is my guess. Could be lower even but I'm not seeing higher.

What's up with those yuge hands?

It’s a beauty but I think you’re pretty spot on. Not higher anyways. Now on a good day......two bidders with I don’t give a blank attitudes and the bankrolls to duke it out....

Will the final bid meet or exceed the post it note price? 

14 hours ago, stinkininkin said:

C&H was fantastic from it's first strip to its last.  Peanuts, not so much.  I think early Peanuts is BRILLIANT.  But put a gun to my head as to which strip I'd want to own an original of, and it's C&H all day long.

Hey Scott if you were presented with the choice to ink a strip of either Peanuts or CH, just for kicks and you could only choose one??? Scott Williams over Watterson or Schulz?

3 hours ago, stinkininkin said:

Oh for sure.  I give Watterson a lot of credit for ending his strip before it got stale and bankrupt of new ideas.  Schulz had longevity, and truth be told he should have pulled the plug before he did.  I was basically comparing the first 10-15 years of Peanuts to the full run of C&H.  I give the nod to C&H by a nose.

It's so close. Watterson harder to get. If I could only choose one...ah it's impossible for me. I love CH and I luv Peanuts. 

https://images.app.goo.gl/Bj3hqBPV9wuC5NR88

As we mature and grow in our response to art and the creators, we maybe learn and see things we didn’t see at first.

•Please share an artist that grew on you after initial disdain for their work.

•Please give specific examples 

•share with us how your feelings developed over time. What did you hate/dislike vs learn to love/like

He hate me, he hate me not !

For me it was Moebius. As a kid with few exceptions I loathed Jean Giraud’s work especially on Comic heroes. I thought he was maybe the worst artist I had ever seen. I didn’t get it at all.

His Iron Man poster I thought made our hero look like a heroin addict. I couldn’t enjoy the lines, the foreign and unrecognizable vision. I compared to other artists. I tried to see what he saw. Complete irritation and impatience for Jean’s work.

Then I grew up and found his work in Heavy Metal and elsewhere. He won me over. John Buscema summoned my favorite Silver Surfer and Kirby was the GOAT.

However The Surfer by Jean Giraud blows me away. It’s so singularly alien, I believe Jean Giraud saw things beyond our earthly understanding.

Without hesitation Moebius is one of my absolute favorite artists sans qualifiers.

Have fun with this. I truly respect and look forward to what you all come up with.

21 hours ago, PhilipB2k17 said:

Oh God. There is no way this will be good.

You’re probably right but I hope you’re wrong. I read my first Freak Brothers when my uncle bought some issues from a head shop in 1978. I was 10.

I am 💯 % anti drug my whole life (I know who cares) but....these guys fascinated me. Freewheeling Franklin, Phineas and Fat Freddy + cat. The art, the stories and the crazy situations they’d get into.

a guilty pleasure for me and I might buy a page one day. Please please get this one right!!!!! 

Gilbert Shelton has a say in the show so..,..,

Erik Larsen Spider-Man interior pages. The last two I tried for went combined +3-4k  and 6k.

John Buscema & Alcala Savage Sword of Conan HA pages went +4k and +5k.

3 hours ago, kbmcvay said:

People have mentioned the second Dave Cockrum X-Men run and the Alan Davis Excalibur pages as having the prices really start to take off in the last year or two. Are there any other series that fit the bill?

I asked a Donelly about this and he said everything has appreciated in value. I asked for specifics and he said inquire. When I asked if there was anything they owned that had depreciated he said, let me ask my brother.

7 hours ago, AnkurJ said:

Also a bit of sellers remorse I’m guessing. The consignors are likely unhappy that the pieces are being “flipped”

if you can get it more power to you. I used to let this bother me, when I was a rookie. Once you sell it.....move on. Now dealers calling out buyers for flipping.... ha ha ha ha....please.

3 hours ago, stinkininkin said:

No one ever convinces someone else to change their mind in discussion like this, but besides not only completely disagreeing with you about Miller I would argue that Janson's inks are absolutely gorgeous and a high water mark for inking as an art form historically and beautifully elevate Millers already superb storytelling.  Very little of it was pretty, but it was all kinds of visceral and bold and at times sublime. Carry on!

+ 1

3 hours ago, comix4fun said:

Wait...you mean to say that character, title, and subject matter are integral to demand and price in the comic art market?  

ha ha Amen 

6 minutes ago, zhamlau said:

Haha my turn to play heel: always thought Kane was very over rated. I just hated looking at the figures he drew. I know others see greatness in him, I’m just not one of them.

On many interior pages Kane for me is like Cano limping to second base. He comes up a bit short.

Now Kane Green Lantern, Spiderman and John Carter Warlord of Mars. Sky high like JD’s game tying blast and Hum a na  hum a na rockets red glare like Pete’s laser into left field to decide a double header sweep!

51 minutes ago, visarspike said:

Hi

As i didn t find any recent example (last sale i found was in 2013 on héritage)

 

So can someone tell me how much this gil kane page is worth....i d like to put it on CAF, but i have no idea how much

Thanks

This is a very nice page. I’m not an expert in Kane values but I believe a few of the board members are. I bet they private message you. You might get a few offers. Good luck

Methinks.....it be time to Release the Krakken! Anyone know said whereabouts of....the Krakken?

meanwhile I think we just keep peppering this cad and eBay with take it down fury mails.

7 minutes ago, drdroom said:

For me it's when they're still alive that I pull my punches! 

Sometimes pulling punches really means keeping one’s hands in pocket while the other fellas alive to do something about it.

2 hours ago, Blastaar said:

 that's right !!

1 hour ago, exitmusicblue said:

We're like the village guard !! 

Heimdal on The Rainbow Bridge of Asgard !!!!!