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On 3/6/2024 at 7:58 AM, ThothAmon said:
The great Earl Norem definitely had a process whereby he turned out magazine covers at an astonishing rate. It began with a crayon colored drawing on crepe paper he would get approval for and then use to overhead project onto board for assisting with final painting.
Thanx you. I love seeing as much of the creative process as possible to display. Such a talent that man Earl Norem.
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On 3/5/2024 at 3:38 PM, furthur said:
here is another prelim that is rarely seen (plenty of Frazetta prelims out there, but ever seen one for Johnny Comet? This one is actually on the back of a Johnny Comet and only after owning it for several years did someone point out to me that it was a preliminary drawing of a figure that appears about two weeks later in the continuity. Hell, I was just happy to get such a fine example of Frazetta's famous signature-art all by itself
Worthy.
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I've heard horror stories. This one is bad, but there is some hope. I think you'll find the story interesting.
Would any of you like to share horror stories? *hopefully some rescued art!
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2023/sep/16/british-war-comic-art-rescued-exhibition
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On 3/5/2024 at 1:50 PM, The Voord said:
Glen Gold got the ball rolling on this one by posting one of the poster images. From Glen's clue, it was then easy to fit the pieces together and see the Ditko illustration for what it actually is/was.. Kudos to Glen.
By the way, when I contacted Josh at C-Link, I sent him a detailed analysis of what it was he was actually auctioning off . . . plus a link to this thread (which is why you're now seeing those additional images on the auction listing).
Well done fellas. Great job Glen. Thanks for reporting to C-Link Terry. Josh and the gang must be freaking out right now at the potential of that specific auction. The added info could be like winning a share of a reasonable lottery pot.
Good luck to the consignees.
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On 2/18/2024 at 11:50 AM, grapeape said:
Being unpublished I think will temper the bidding. It's one of the best Spidey pinups by the late great Ditko though.
My guess is $395,000. I'll be surprised if it goes way over, but not surprised if it goes lower.
if it were a published pinup from the era of 1-37 I'd have it at $673,012.49.
Well there it is in black and white. I said if it was published.....$673,012.49. I'm looking in my 🚗 console for the .49 cents.
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On 3/4/2024 at 9:00 AM, Latverian Tourism Board said:
“I just e-mailed Josh at C-link to inform him of the good news and to suggest he alters the description to reflect what it is he's actually auctioning-off. He's just acknowledged my e-mail, so hopefully a more accurate description will follow.”
I might as well just copy and paste yours, because I came to post the exact same thing. Heh. I think they are aware now.
UPDATE: There is strong evidence that in 1966, this artwork was reworked by another artist (possibly Marie Severin) with some alterations and then published as one of the 6-foot "life-sized" posters of different Marvel characters that were sold as a set that year (see fourth image below). Evidence supporting this includes a note on the right side of the artwork that says "5 1/2 FEET HIGH BM-MATTE" (see second image below). Also supporting this is the similarity of the pose between the original artwork and the published poster. In the published poster, the right arm and left leg were repositioned and some additional inking was added. The image was tilted about 20 degrees to the left.
The 6-foot Spider-Man poster is one of the 'Holy Grails' of Spider-Man merchandise collectors. While the artwork sources for the other Marvel characters in the 6-foot posters set has always been easy to document, that has not been the case for the Spider-Man image until now. We believe that the discovery of this historic artwork can now put that long-time mystery to bed! Note that in addition to the 6-foot poster, the altered image was also part of the "Personality Posters", a set of 12" x 17" posters of eight Marvel characters also published in 1966. The altered image was also used as part of the 1966 Donruss Marvel card set. It appeared on both the retail display box and on a montage of heroes that appeared on the back of the cards when they were displayed in order (See fifth image below). The altered image The altered image was also used for the cover of the first comic book in Brazil to feature Spider-Man, published in 1968 (see sixth image below).From the keyboard warriors on this thread, fueled by Mountain Dew and Doritos, (Unca Ben most notably) we'd like to take a moment to say; "YOU'RE WELCOME !"
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On 3/4/2024 at 7:12 PM, aaronnear said:
I only have one prelim, and it's not that big, but it's my pride and joy.
James Jean's variant cover pencil prelim to Sandman Overture 6. James came out of comic book retirement to do this amazing piece for Neil. James is by far my favorite artist and I never thought I'd be able to own something made with his own hands, but here we are. The birds from the final piece showed up on Heritage I think it was last year, but it went for more than I paid for this, so I couldn't contend. Hopefully someday I'll bring the two together.
Prelim:
Final:
All framed up before going up in the living room:
Outstanding. I hope one day you can unite them. This is a prelim treat:-)
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On 3/4/2024 at 9:16 AM, alxjhnsn said:
The following came from the Harry Palmer Starstruck or Old Proldiers Never Die Kickstarter from many years ago.
Okay, they aren't prelims because Mike didn't use for commissions at least; rather, he told me he does his prelim work on the final board and just builds on top. The images below are progress scans that he sent me.
This was what I originally pledged to get:
Later they need more cash and offered "some background" if we provided more cash. I said sure!
That caused Michael a problem since, as seen in the prelim, there was no room for background.So, he turned the page over and started building an entirely different scene. These are the progress shots that he sent me:
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Here's the final image (I got more than I paid for, I think)
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You most certainly did! Wow! Just...Wow!!!
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the 6ft Spidey poster
the 6ft Spidey poster
THE 6FT SPIDEY POSTER !!!!
ComicLink Comments:
a large promotional display with a life-size Spider-Man figure. We are not aware of such a display ever being produced or exactly what it would have been used for in the 1960
it was at this point the consignee realized he ------ --
Update: Josh from ComicLink emailed me and wanted me to know that the consignor is very happy with his choice. They have updated the description as part of their review process.
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On 3/4/2024 at 12:23 AM, Kevn said:On the right side is written "5 1/2 FEET HIGH BM - MATTE" with arrows indicating just the image area of Spider-Man. At the bottom is written "SHEET SIZE 6' Fig. 5 1/2' - leave 1" all around".
Funny, because they must have come across the 6ft poster at some point. They can check out the one selling at HA that Unca Ben posted the link to
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Found the picture of the framed poster and major props to the framer!!! 🍇 🦍
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On 3/3/2024 at 8:52 AM, Grant Turner said:
I also have this prelim sketch by Pasqual Ferry of the first appearance of Kid Loki.
i paid $15 for it!
That's spot on, no doubt! Love that.
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On 3/3/2024 at 7:58 AM, Sideshow Bob said:
A couple of great cover prelims/layouts from Ed Hannigan (trying to find the finals...DM me!). And a page 1 prelim from a little book called The Killing Joke.
You're smarter than me. I saw most of the prelims around $800 and passed them up waiting for a published page I could afford
Very cool to see your prelim.
Always dug Ed Hannigan's work on Batman. I hope you find what you're looking for.
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On 3/3/2024 at 6:36 AM, Unca Ben said:I'm jealous of your brother.
I got this poster in third grade and it resided on my bedroom wall until I moved out and then it graced my first couple bachelor pads until it found its way - creased and somewhat torn - rolled up in my closet. But I stared at his thing in admiration every day for over 15 years so it was easy for me to recognize the pin up as the Spidey poster as soon as I saw it in this thread.
I recall bringing this poster to show and tell in 3rd grade.
It is truly iconic of the innovations by Marvel Comics at the time.In 1965, who would have thought of a (relatively) slightly-known but ever growing-in-popularity Super Hero 6-foot wall poster? And it's unique in its own way - the thick paper stock and almost chalky thick inks that brought a special "smell" to the poster when it was new- way different than other posters. If you've been around one in person you know what I mean.
It truly cemented my interest in Marvel Comics - I had been regularly reading them for 5-6 months as best I could (no store nearby that I could patronize on my own - I had to buy my comics when accompanying my parents shopping).
But to be introduced to Marvel during those months with Spidey and JJJ's robot and Mysterio and the Crime Master and the Green Goblin, and FF fighting the evil FF with the Thing's betrayal and Reed and Sue's Wedding and the intro of the Inhumans, while the X-Men were fighting the Juggernaut for the first time then the Sentinels, and Thor up against the Destroyer and then Absorbing Man, and The Avengers and the Swordsman, and Iron Man vs Titanium Man, and Capt. America and the Red Skull, and the Sub-Mariner on his quest, and S.H.I.E.L.D. …
Man, what a time to really enter comics.
And this Spidey poster symbolizes that for me. So I'm a bit biased. (which means I should fit in rather well around here).
My brother is a supreme collector of all things Spider-Man. He has the original web shooters, you name it he's got it.
There was a big hole however. The 6ft poster, which he looked for year after year with no luck. I made it my personal, private mission to fill that hole.
There was a convention in Los Angeles, about 4-5 years ago. I met a friend there and took my wife along. The week before I took my time showing my wife what the poster looked like and the size. She goes antiquing here and there and you never know.
At the convention, my wife was taking a breather when my pal and I met up with her. We were going to have lunch, but my wife asked me, "can you watch our stuff while I take a look around for 5 minutes."
Ten minutes later she comes back.
"You need to come with me. I think I found something." I followed her down an aisle, and she pointed to a booth. Behind the seller I could see the colors, so familiar, but was it the one? I asked to see it fully and once he started unrolling it I knew the search was over. Those two images I sent a few clicks back in this thread are of the actual poster my wife found.What did he want for it? $1500
What was the wiggle room? Okay, $1300 cash money. Great except I was only carrying $500. I'd come to sell more than buy. I would have to leave the convention, go to a bank and get the money.
The guy was cool though, as he was selling it on consignment. He kept looking at me and he said, "you bought something from me in 98. I remember your face." That blew me away.
He asked, "did you bring a check?"
I did. The last hurdle, "the seller is here, let me call him over."
The consignee showed up ten minutes later. Would he accept a check? Yes, because this guy remembered me from 20 freaking years ago.
"I'll vouch for him. It's a good check."
I wrote a check for $1300 and took the poster home. My brother had given me discretion many years ago to act on his behalf. I wanted to find a way to make it free for my bro but I couldn't quite get there. I sold $800 worth of art to recoup some of what I paid. A week later I drove many, many miles with my wife to surprise my brother. Boy was he excited and surprised. I have a video of the moment he unfurled it with his girlfriend on the living room carpet. The joy was electric. We celebrated with a homemade spaghetti dinner with a fantastic gravy (nowhere near the poster mind you).
My brother only had to pay me $500. He did the right thing and invested in a beautiful fitted frame of high archival quality. I can't find a pic of that at the moment.
Speaking to my brother, yesterday I was telling him about your excellent CSI like breakdown of the poster and the unpublished Ditko giveaway. The talk turned to the poster specifically ,and my brother, the fanatic, a guy who once watched Stan Lee drink coffee for an hour, waited for him to leave, paid a busboy $5 to take the cup, and have Stan Lee sign it. Stan said, " I think you might be nuts" haha. Anyway, my brother says the 6ft Spidey poster is the quintessential holy grail for serious Spidey collectors, as far as collectibles are concerned.
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On 3/2/2024 at 11:13 PM, Grant Turner said:
Wally Wood prelims for DD 6
Yep. The prelim and the printed comic art add up pretty, pretty....good!
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On 3/3/2024 at 5:01 AM, Kevn said:
One of my favorite prelims is this set of color studies by Steve Rude for The Next Nexus 4. You really get a sense of the process and creative decision making:
"youth is wasted on the young."
I couldn't agree more. Brunner and Kaluta master artists. My man Steve Rude has talent flowing out of his ears. Nexus is a gift that keeps on giving, and I love to watch him work. There's a magnificent documentary about Steve that came out in 2014. I believe it's still showing on TUBI.
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On 3/2/2024 at 1:27 PM, alxjhnsn said:
I also have a slew of preliminaries from Nick Pitarra for the wonderful commission that he did for me. As usual, click the image to learn more.
"Looming over the contest, we have the evil mastermind of the piece - me! (I've never looked better." ha ha. Just freaking awesome!! You never looked better Alex!
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On 3/2/2024 at 11:43 AM, Xatari said:
Two Deadpool pages from New Mutants #98 were sold at Heritage a little while back as prelims. However, if you listen to Rob Liefeld’s podcast, he and Marat Mychaels explain his process during this era. These were the original pencils done on smaller paper (which is how Rob liked to work) then a Xerox machine was used to reproduce a larger copy which would be inked by Marat.
I wish I had purchased both pieces but could only afford one at the time. Congrats to whoever owned the other! Mine is currently on display at the Marvel Exhibit in Wellington, New Zealand.
Source:
Robservations podcast
The Making of Deadpool part 2 - 46:30
The Making of Deadpool part 3 - 52:00; 1:09:00
I remember seeing this when it came up. It's gotta be a thrill to have a piece of the production of a dandy "new" Marvel character in his first appearance stage. Worthy of display for historical content from the great world of original comic book art!
And who knows.... maybe Deadpool will one day blow up and become a popular character.
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On 3/2/2024 at 1:30 AM, Unca Ben said:
This.
I think this pinup is the original drawing that ended up being the 6 foot poster. Either Ditko himself reworked the drawing or it was done in production. Ditko could have light boxed the original and made the adjustments, or a photostat could have been cut and pasted to achieve the final composition.
I submit that they are too similar to be coincidence.
If the pinup is rotated about 20-some degrees to the left and a vertical line bisects the figure we can make some observations on both compositions.
Ignore the left leg and the right arm just for a moment.
The line bisects the face the same. it brushed up against the tips of the legs of the chest spider-symbol the same. it goes thru just left of the crotch the same. The space between the line and the left thumb is the same. the space between the line and the right foot is the same. Think "negative space". The two negative spaces created by the bisecting line in the lower half of the figure are exactly the same. The webbing thru the face, torso, belt, left arm, right boot are exact. Muscles in the chest left arm and right leg are the same. The right underarm spotted black could have been whited out or ignored on the new light boxed drawing.
Once again, the compositions and details are just too similar to be coincidence so I submit this is the original drawing (or the "original" original drawing) for the famous 6 foot pinup. If my observations prove to be correct and I were the seller, I'd really want this stuff to be mentioned.
Has anyone ever seen the drawing for the 6 foot pin up? I'd be willing to bet that it is either: a cut and pasted Photostatted version of this pin-up, or a second drawing that was light boxed from the first.
Excellent case made here. Your logic is sound. This is a special piece no doubt. My brother has the 6ft poster and I can see it. If only Stan were around to confirm it. If I could afford the piece at auction I would give my....ahhhh, Uncle Ben, you're a brave man then ole grapeape.
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UPDATE: There is strong evidence that in 1966, this artwork was reworked by another artist (possibly Marie Severin) with some alterations and then published as one of the 6-foot "life-sized" posters of different Marvel characters that were sold as a set that year (see fourth image below). Evidence supporting this includes a note on the right side of the artwork that says "5 1/2 FEET HIGH BM-MATTE" (see second image below). Also supporting this is the similarity of the pose between the original artwork and the published poster. In the published poster, the right arm and left leg were repositioned and some additional inking was added. The image was tilted about 20 degrees to the left.
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the 6ft Spidey poster
THE 6FT SPIDEY POSTER !!!!
it was at this point the consignee realized he ------ --
Update: 
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Terrific. That Bolland piece is jaw dropping in its detail.