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Did not realize the 361 had that defect. The 2 I purchased back when new do not have any tears - I sent 1 for grading earlier this year and got a 9.8. While I've never received 9.9 I thought mine had a punchers chance. If you are positive that it's currently recognized as a manufacturing defect then my opinion send it in. But if that is not the case then 9.6 sounds right and 9.4 not out of the question.

It's close to being totally bronze if kept to 45 and higher.

Great stuff. Josie DeCarlo was one of, if not THE nicest people you'd ever meet at a con. I was lucky enough to purchase some art from them in around 2000. Dan was great people as well. Shame the way the Goldwater's treated him. Why Bronze sub-forum not Silver?

I have 6 submissions since 1st week of April, the first one that had been shipped back to me is one that arrived in Sarasota on Oct 4th, Scheduled for Grading 10/25, Shipped 10/28. My April Submission was sent before the price increase was announced and flood gates opened as folks scrambled to send in before it took effect, it was Scheduled for Grading on June 14th. That early April submission has spent, spring, summer, fall thus far and what i assume what will be a full winter in Florida. Hardly seems fair that new subs are being worked on while submissions that have been aging in CCG's storage (hopefully temp controlled?) since April are not being addressed. Line cutting of the highest order

Agreed it was barely acceptable on a commerce site 15-20 years ago but in 2021 seems CGC and or parent company is too cheap to pay for couple of hours of coding and QA testing

I just now read the first post it explains JJJ11's goal

Interesting goal. My opinion OCA over Comics. Great thing about art is a small overlooked defect 10 years back does not affect the items value. Not to mention so much easier than various degrees of feeding into "OCD-ness" that exist with condition being king type collectibles.

A DC for which I did purposely seek, something I almost never do, the newsstand edition. As child on a summer trip to New York with my Grandmother I picked up WW283 at a Newsstand below World Trade Center Tower 1 (Never Forget) Excellent Perez cover and Huntress backup

Continuing my scanning "project" another I did not realize I had newsstand edition. My 2nd favorite Joe issue.

Now I have pics

"Fanttastic Four #112 Society" Curious is the misspelling intended?

"Decent" is highly subjective. If someone is seeking to begin collecting 60s or 70's Marvel Covers or even splash pages then yeah best to think about a different hobby. As for panel pages (likely non battle, non a-list artist) perhaps they can pickup a few nice items per year? BTW it's not what you make but what you keep I'd bet there are some in the salary range you mentioned who have little to nothing in the way of expenses. Still though your point is valid most vintage Marvel Art, and to a lesser extent DC has become a hobby for the wealthy. Although since at least the late 90's has always been a hobby for those with at least some "disposable income"

Don't think it will have an bearing. CGC does not hold manufacturing against you like [begin homer simpson voice here] stupid PSA, Stupid SGC, Stupid BGS do with Stupid trading cards.

CGC should note fragrance on their labels as they do page whiteness. "Echos of Morning Dew" "Notes of Vanilla and Elderberry" "Basic Newsprint Aromas" "Hints of old Moldy Sock" "Light Sewage Stench" perhaps even a quote "Roses are Red, Violets are Blue, This book Stinks and so do You"

Pics sadly don't show everything, especially ripples. However based on your pics I've seen what to my eyes are many worse looking 9.8's than your 9.6 A 9.8 on technical merit does not always look nicer to me than strong 9.6. It's why "buy the book, not the slab" applies for me at every con I attend. BTW what I've seen the past few years is CGC is very strict on anything that represents color loss, but yet lenient on things I find worse like ticks/ hits on the spine or blunted corners.

Let's see how it pans out over the next year or 2 as more an more folks send them in when they see the going rate.

I do agree with what you have mentioned. I'd also like to add the Social Media crowd has virtually no attention span so I am surprised their interest with Comics (and trading cards) has lasted this long. Still books like ASM 300,361,362 , Star Wars 42, insert name of high population hot book here, etc are outliers in that the CGC 9.8/9.6/9.4 pops are so very high and seeming growing exponentially each month. There are still many quality investments that may look less "sexy" now but may not give up their gains. Won't mention any examples for those . I don't like my use of the word investments in the last sentence how about opportunities instead. Of course Keynes statement still applies! ; Markets Can Remain Irrational Longer Than You Can Remain Solvent

Hi, You mentioned earlier that the newsstand data was/is not tracked by CGC from 1999-2020. The figure of 33 how exactly is that derived? Also do you believe it to be accurate and complete data OR merely represents a bare minimum of those in a CGC 9.8 slab?

In process of scanning my collection and found this among my digests. Another Canadian Variant that states "Canadian" right on the cover yet not correctly noted by CGC. Not to mention it's actually #34 not #35 which is 2 mistakes by CGC . #497 is indicated on the cover which is a whole other matter. This book was graded in 2016 so no relation to recent "issues". Hannigan was a great cover designer.

Pooped is right, expect to see more and more of these appear like brown trouts being release into the wild. Edit: I see BigLeagueCHEW corrected the spelling in the post I quoted. Rendering this post significantly less humorous.

Genre inspiring but less relatable as years pass. Superman will never overtake Batman for the masses, but why does it need to be a competition???

Bronze Age Print Runs decreased as each year went on. By early 1978 when Frank Miller interviewed at Marvel he was told by Jim Shooter (or was it James Galton) "are you sure you want to go into a line of work that wont exist in 2 years" . What they did not realize at the time was the direct sale boom was nearly upon them - also coming to the realization that most ads in comics book cost more to print than they earned from them. The reason so many more Bronze Age Books exist in High Grade than Silver is more "adults" were buying and treating them gently. Of course the average press run of even a middling Bronze Age Marvel or DC titles would qualify as huge block-buster in the in the 21st century. So it's not how many Comics are printed but how many are nicely preserved. But yeah there were many 1990's pre-bust books that had runs so high it caused global deforestation (tongue in cheek folks); Superman 75, Spawn 1, Maxx 1, Youngblood 1, X-Men 1, Spider-Man 1, X-Force 1, Rai 0, Amazing Spider-man 361,362,363, etc.... I highly recommend the following IMHO essential books for those interested in Comics Sales,Comics Industry, Comics History from 1970-1990's : Comic Book Implosion An Oral History of DC Comics Circa 1978 (twomorrows) 2019 Eisner Award Nominee: BEST COMICS-RELATED BOOK American Comic Book Chronicles: The 1970s (twomorrows) by Jason Sacks and Keith Dallas American Comic Book Chronicles: The 1980s (twomorrows) by Keith Dallas American Comic Book Chronicles: The 1990s (twomorrows) - not as essential like the 2 above, but still very worthwhile The Comic Book Heroes: The First History of Modern Comic Books - From the Silver Age to the Present 1996 edition by Gerard Jones and Will Jacobs

They have missed every one of the 6 Canadian Newstands I've ever sent in... What gets me is one clearly states Canadian on the book. I also did the submission forms 100% correct. ..SMH

I want you to hold it between your knees