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Well... this has finally gotten to the point of ridiculousness. Stu, your beliefs in your own self importance is completely unfounded and a little pathetic. You really need to get professional help. Redd, see my suggestion for Stu. Logan, thanks for the PMs regarding these bozos. RMA, your reply’s give them an iota of “power” and only reinforce their delusions. You shouldn’t even waste your time replying to these guys. I’m out. Y’all STUpid.

I would have lept across the table and murdered him. The way celebrities and creators treat our books sometimes. Like Carrie Fisher sprinkling glitter on books and people. Ugh.

Dearest @NiceTryGuy and @SueStu, Since you are obviously the same person, I'm going to kindly as that you please (for the love of the gods) go away. Your inability to comprehend sarcasm, rational thought, and your own hypocrisy, combined with this personal vendetta thing you have going on against RMA is mindbogglingly boring - and honestly a waste of ALL of our time. I've reported your post and IP to the Admins. Please spend the rest of your trolling days in YouTube comments where you belong - not here. Sincerely, the ENTIRE board.

New additions for this year... both by Creees. Thanks to Doug Peters for the legwork and getting exactly what I pictured in my head. “Nightmare Batman” ”Mystic Arts Battle”

The last I heard was that Stan Lee will NOT be at that show. There was a problem with be Con organizer.

If you're not going to intelligently contribute to the discussion about why Rob Liefeld has decided that CGC is not worth his time or the merits (and lack thereof) for up charging for signatures on books that will be sent to CGC, then you can start your own thread, somewhere else. If you just want to sit an eat popcorn, have at it, but put the keyboard down while you do so. Thanks.

... because he made a point about something off topic and unrelated? Wow. The mental gymnastics you must perform to get through your daily life is astounding. Perfect 10’s, bro.

... not the point at all. Good job missing everything said over the last 122 comments. Bravo.

This is my fault... I'm sorry... I need glasses.

I guess we know who's swallowed the blue pill, and who's swallowed the red pill here. (And who's read the entire thread, and who hasn't)

If we brought our own witness from the CGC booth, would we be allowed to just ask for a signature at the "signature only" rate then? Because if the creator thinks that they can charge the extra fee to people who CGC their books because it creates extra work for them, then by that logic if I DID ALLTHE WORK INVOLVED MYSELF, then I should be able to get the signature at the lower cost, right? The point that's trying to be made here is that the creators have been TRICKED into thinking that people who slab their books are all selling those items on eBay. They've also been tricked into thinking that they are ENTITLED a share of the profits from any possible future sale of a slabbed book. Does the person who painted your house get a share of the profit from final sale price when you sell it down the line? No. They charge you the price to paint everything and they reap thier profits from THAT pool of cash, not ask for a second stab at it because you MIGHT sell the house. I agree that they should be able to charge more IF AND ONLY IF they make special arrangements for something like a "private signing" or something like Todd McFarlane or Jim Lee often does - there is an obvious additional cost involved there. But if they DO charge more, they should be charging EVERYONE more, not just slabbers. Just because I want to have my book graded for longevity, authenticity, and display, what is supposed to entitle a creator to extra profit on that item? Why should you get a slice of the profit? And that's THE ONLY other possible rationale that they could be using to charge more to sign their name on a book that is going to be graded. That's not really how is supposed to work, and that's not how it worked for the first 10-15 years that CGC existed, why has it suddenly changed? Your blind support of this as their "right" to charge one person more for the exact same thing is wrong-headed and complicit. I'm not trying to be confrontational, I'm just trying to condense the conversation down a little so it's easier to understand how these creators have been tricked by not being challenged on this practice. It's allowed the LIE to persist. That's all.

When will we see the final trade dress of this posted? Or is this a "Virgin" ?

Oh gosh... I can’t believe I’m commenting on this... I must be a glutton for punishment... You’re both right... and you’re both wrong. RockyMountain... in the definition for Third-Degree Discrimination simply substitute “groups” for markets and the definition works. The “who” the “groups” are sorted into is one for resellers vs collectors. At least that’s how it is in the minds of the creators who upcharge for CGC. I realize that’s not a whole accurate way to group people in line for a signature, but that’s what they are doing and that’s why people understand the rationale behind it. Wrong headed or otherwise. Kevhtx... and regardless of the group or market that the person waiting in line belongs to, it doesn’t change the physical action by the creator, it costs him nothing additional to write his signature on a book I plan to sell or a book I plan to have slabbed. So, why should they get to charge me more if they don’t have to do an ounce more work? They are making a biased assumption about my intent and their asking for part of any future and potential profits. What if a Con organizer asked top-tier creators to pay more for each of their booths and get a percentage of sales generated at the booth, but cosplayers/inkers/self-publishers paid the “normal” rate because they don’t generate as many ticket sales for the con? That’s what RockyMountain is arguing. (BTW, his airline ticket analogy was briliant.) For BOTH Rocky & Kev... Now, if the creator has gone to the trouble to hire someone to handle all the CGC submissions for books they sign (and CGC has granted exclusive rights of submission for that creators team), then by all means they gotta pay that person somehow. I’d rather see creators going to more conventions than less conventions. If facilitator-managers like Doug Peters make that more possible, but charge a fee to cover the increased expenses, then that’s what we have to contend with. Like any great debate there is never a simple, single-faceted solution. It’s gotta be attacked on multiple levels. That’s a discussion for a completely different thread though. ***please have mercy on my soul and honor my courage for stepping in between you two with my comments***

That’s a little dismissive of the whole reason facilitators exist. I can’t personally attend any cons due to family obligations. So, a facilitator like Doug Peters or Rich Henn get me the signatures I want for my books. I don’t mind the few extra $$$ I have to throw their way to get my quad signed books. If Rob wants a cut of THEIR profits too, then that’s a reall a-hole move. And “the other company” facilitators charge the same surcharge, so that doesn’t really make any sense.

I’m wondering if this has anything to do with the Stan Lee/Max/Anastasia’s/Excelsior situation right now? Or is this another situation where a fan screwed it up for the rest of us? ... with Rob it seems to come down to getting paid for every little thing he does. I bet he wanted a kickback from each submitted slab (despite already charging for graded signatures) and CGC said no. It sounds like EGO, and not like “business” as he claims it to be?

Yeah... He doesn't sign books anymore. He's "out of the comic business" was the quote I heard from a huge facilitator.

... and these would be 9.8's?

Is that even an option?

Has the pricing for Boyega been finalized? I might have a book I want to add him to. Enquiring minds want to know!!!

I've paid and sent both a message here AND an email to the sales department... I haven't heard ANYTHING back yet. Can I get a reply PLEASE?!?!?

I will take a full body sketch. I would like to have it CGC’d when it’s complete. Payment sent ($265+4% G&S). I will send my blank this week! When is the deadline to receive our blanks? When is the sketch opp happening? Ooooo... so excited!!!!

Hey gang... are there any facilitators at Victoria Comic Con this weekend? I have an overdue commission sketch that needs to get picked up and submitted to CGC. ? Let me know. Thanks.

I'd contact the Scorpion Comics people... I believe they are closely affiliated with Todd directly, as in he's part OWNER of the shop or has some sort of equity deal with them. I was told back in December that there is a signing in February or March with Todd.

An "ART" label or better yet an "OA" label would be SOOOOOO welcomed by CGC fans. PLEASE!!!???!!!???

How much?