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mediaslave

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  1. On 10/27/2021 at 7:43 PM, universal soldier said:

    I was going to find a Thor thread but I'll throw this in this topic since it seems relevant. I don't chase variants or 1 in whatevers etc... but this was pretty cool. It's a Thor #18 shop variant for my LCS (Hall of Comics) drawn by Daniel Warren Johnson.

    It seems this is only the 7th homage to JIM #83 if the details in the article below are accurate.

    https://screenrant.com/thor-first-comic-journey-mystery-throg-variant-cover/?fbclid=IwAR0P3iWgt9fDfMcpcDxQ8y8xzdB8ya-zgj38Tf4Umrzo6HCiXQVjadf8cSU

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    Why the F is he called Throg and Beta Ray Bill isn't called Thorse. 

  2. On 10/7/2021 at 8:48 AM, mrwoogieman said:

    The Alien is an homage to Uncanny 234, a terrible cover in its own right. 

    You must be day-drunk. :D

    The Silvestri cover is awesome. Wolverine in agony as the brood takes him over...awesome. Really well done. 

    The alien one is stupid. What is it suffering from, indigestion? Leg cramps? Its really silly and misses the point of the original completely. 

  3. On 10/6/2021 at 1:45 PM, GeeksAreMyPeeps said:

    I've got a better idea. If you don't like homage covers, don't buy them. If other people like homage covers, let them buy them.

    Think you're missing his point, but fair. 

    I think these homage covers are indicative of a creative vacuum and an acceptance of rubbish covers if I'm honest, as well as a flood of questionable variants. 

    What kills me is if you're gonna do a homage, at least  have an idea of what the hell made the original so great. Most of these are pretty much meh. Those Mayhew ones especially. 

    I attached the worst one ever though. Talk about missing the point. 

    http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0012/0392/9182/products/Bloodshot_9AlanQuah_1200x1200.jpg?v=1602903533
     

  4. 3 hours ago, paqart said:

    I started my career as a comic book artist for Marvel, DC, and Harris, then became a 3D artist in video games (Epic, Square, THQ, Universal), a VFX artist in films (Space Jam, Spider-man, Daredevil, etc), then started a school for Game artists. I have a lot of experience making in art in a variety of mediums, including 3D. Below are my comments:

    1) I have never seen well-executed 3D art in a comic or on a comic book cover. It may exist but I haven't seen it. My overall impression is that the average quality is poor.
    2) Making anything to a high level of finish in 3D takes much longer than making a drawing. This is why game artists will frequently throw together a few cubes or other existing assets, like vehicles made for a different project, to quickly lay out a scene, and then paint over it to add detail they don't have time to create in 3D. These are called "paintovers". The paintovers I've seen in the game and film industry are superior to the feeble attempts I've seen in comics.

    3) The principal problems with comic book covers that incorporate 3D elements, either as a paintover or final art are: very poor textures, terrible lighting, lack of expected detail, poor drawing/painting skills.

    4) My preference is for hand-drawn art but I do recognize that some artists are able to rough out otherwise time-consuming mechanical detail in 3D as a sketch for final art. When it is not rendered but inked like the rest of the art, this can look fine. I saw this recently in a Batman comic, though I forget the artist offhand. The scene included a complicated clock that would have taken considerable time to layout by hand.

    www.paqart.com

    I love you. 

    YOU, sir, are bang TF on. I did some texture stuff for Digital Extremes WAY back in the day and man the stuff I'm seeing now is so stiff and obvious. Those examples of Mayhews that I posted, how painful are those to look at? Looks like that reboot show from 20 years ago. Just amateur AT BEST. First year student really. Then then to produce "original artwork" out of it...ugh. 

  5. On 5/2/2021 at 7:46 AM, oldmilwaukee6er said:

    Does Bjorn Barends on his Spawn covers count as 3d digital ?? It's my understanding that he sculpts a figure and then builds the cover image around it ...

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    Good question. I've been on the fence with this guy. its clear hes using 3d models, but he does a lot of paintover work too...much more effort here. That said I still don't like them personally. :D

  6. 6 hours ago, Fisionbomb said:

    It isn't any different, this also lowers the integrity of SS.

    I disagree entirely. Authorized witnesses have been vetted and sign an agreement to maintain the integrity of the signatures. This would be no different for pressers. Book never leaves their sight, sent over immediately etc...all the same rules. 

  7. 2 hours ago, Fisionbomb said:

    Personally I'd love to have a ton of pressers available to crack/re-submit, but from a standpoint of keeping SS 100% legit, it's the right decision to only allow an associated company (CCS, through previous receiving by CGC) to handle this.

    Joe is legit, but almost anyone could be swayed by the right amount cash to start getting shady...

    OK, so how is that any different than the CGC authorized shops that can crack SS books to add another signature?

    Cracked is cracked, reason doesn't really matter. If CGC can vet witnesses, they can vet pressers :)

  8. So no Joe 100%? That's a shame. 

    I gotta say (and not trying to be confrontational, please read this in a friendly tone. :D ) I think CGC seriously needs to start a program of vetting pressers to do SS books. It makes zero sense that a CGC authorized witness (store or whatever) can crack a book to get a signature added, but a presser can't crack it to squish it. Whats the difference? Cracked is cracked. CCS doesn't do the best job compared to some of the other guys out there, and the timeline is kinda bonkers. 

    From an outsider view, a number of CGC's latest moves could come across as quite unfriendly and no-quite-predatory-but-definitely-self-serving, such as shrinking the dealer discount and the short timeframe for the price rise. Opening up some pressers as SS options would be a friendly not to the collecting community to show them CGC isn't just abusing a position of (current) dominance. ;)


    Oh and graders notes for 9.6 and below. ;)