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I guess it's feasible as a coincidence that an ebay seller in Tonawanda, New York is selling about 8 yellow label reholdered keys right now. FF 1, ASM 1, Daredevil 1, Avengers 1, TOS 38, ST 101, Hulk 181. etc.

The same ebay seller currently offering the ASM #1, yellow 3.0, in NY, Sleeping Giant, is also offering a yellow 5.0 FF #1, reholdered recently with a grade date in 2015, that I can find no history of selling at that grade on GPA. Signed by Stan date and graded date are 2 days apart in 2015. https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/1184333001/ I did find a couple of much earlier, lower graded copies, that have had no recent sales, and one of the certs has been cleared and is gone. This 4.0, coincidently (as the ASM #1 3.0 was ) last sold in 2011. https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/0970622001/

Thanks for checking! No way of knowing how that seller bought it I guess, but NYCC certainly seems feasible. I don't know how many times it changed hands, plus 2021 was so nuts. That cert #, never appears in GPA that I've found. On February 14, 2021, a blue label 3.0 sold for around $6,500, not a yellow SS copy. By the end of 2021, blue label 3.0s were selling for as much as this yellow did. @ $16K. Then, it's not quite the same pittance that it used to be. My thought is, if the custom/yellow label reholder was always available to be compromised, maybe that explains so many of the "Stan Lee signed back covers" we see with this seller. Who knows if somehow, that yellow label 3.0 had its origins, just as an example, as this book, a 2.0 from 2011. https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/1794610002/ Blue label 2.0 "Stan lee written on cover" grade date 6/20/2011. I can't find that one ever being sold after 2012 ($2,385) on GPA. If signing dates, and certification dates can be screwed around with at some big shot's whim,, who the F knows?

did it sell on eBay? does it show the eBay user IDs?

Here's an example of why what I posted above may have been preferential treatment for pressingstation.com This book has been currently listed by an ebay seller in New York. I'm almost positive that I've seen it before in the last few months, but I haven't spotted exactly where yet. Notice that is was reholdered, but the Stan lee signature date did not change. https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/1118139001/

Linked to the thread due to @bobotski asking the salient, ignored question "Why would you want to?"

Immediately after scans start showing up in the notes, the question gets posed.

Note the statement in that thread that @MasterChief noted below. Yea, I mean, "No, freakin' DUH!!". Is @ccgcollector, someone other than who has been outed so far???? "Can a currently-slabbed CGC 9.8 book be submitted for a regrade? And pre-screened for a 9.8 as well? Let's say I have 5 Modern CGC books that are already slabbed as CGC 9.8's. All I want to do is to have CGC replace the serial numbers on those books with new serial numbers; but I don't want to run the risk of losing those 9.8 grades. I'm fine with paying reholder or Modern grading fees for this service. What would be the recommended course of action to do this?"

maybe, but we keep seeing that white carpet background.

The 5.5, fantastic four, number 48, that comicwiz found, also looked to have been the same label, with a different inner well. I don't think that that one was a third generation re-holder either. So obviously, the questions for CGC, just continue to mount.

understood, sure. There's no way we can make a call yet, on whether it was a scammer that put that inner well in that holder, or it was CGC. Things need to become a lot more transparent for us to do that.

I think that it is a different inner well, with the same label.

Cert # was the only book in that submission, too.

I think that might be the North Korean edition.

Yes, keep us posted.

100% Worth keeping an eye on, just for re using that white carpet photo.

What was weird was that he put scandal in quotes. Maybe it's because he's from upper New York.

I feel like I've done a pretty good job at this point, of being able to recognize submissions, as potentially being one of scamboys. In the last 24 hours, thanks to GPA, I took a look at the submissions of each of the last two, 9.8 ASM 300s that sold for $3500 each. Those two sales, were 50% of the 9.8 ASM 300 sales documented on GPA, since December 18 My review of those submissions, left me with the opinion that I would have almost zero reservations with bidding on those two books, compared to copies, included in submissions, that have both books on the list and books not on the list. i've tagged Matt from customer service twice. Honestly, it's because I like you, and I feel a bit rotten that you are constantly on a leash in regards to questions with these two big issues for CGC. I don't think that it is unreasonable, that if in the course of due diligence, someone asks CGC if a submission was made by Scamboy, to get a response. that might be naïve, but that's my opinion.

well said.

damn, even Dr. balls says, "proctology, yuck."

If it bugs you that much, notify the mods. Personally, I've never done it once, but you be you.

So what? If you search back far enough, you might find a cheerleader practically polishing somebody's knob about a seminar that person gave at a con, about restoration. Should I bring that up, about that guy, as his bias? I vote for letting the moderator do whatever he thinks is necessary.

Thanks for checking. Hopefully they are still pondering my request to check if this was a Zanello submission. Have you seen any other involvement of that azwildcatz520 ebay user ID, that I mentioned to you earlier? That AZ connection seemed possible to me.

The most painfully biased opinion that I've read, since comiclink, stopped by in early January, and let us know that the list could only diminish.