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That FF answered my main question, which was whether trimming would automatically make an otherwise SP label, amateur.

It's nice that it doesn't.

If a book looks nice to me (trimmed), I could live with color touch with no bleed thru, and the label hopefully has always made that clear.

I have another question now.

I've seen a book for sale on the boards with a blue label, and the seller said it was pressed and "cleaned".

Are there cleaning options that don't get noted as restored if discovered? The clasification "B" seems to refer only to "excessive whiteness".

Was this a case where CGC missed it?

The original restored AF 15 in this thread is noted as "cleaned".

9 minutes ago, goldust40 said:

Amazing Spider-Man 129 sold by PM.

I've seen a label change on page color within being assessed 3 months apart. Very detrimentally.

But I'm also curious how many changes are happening to these books that have been in slabs for close to twenty years.

It can't only be for reslab fees on why CGC has said all along to put them in new slabs after ten years.....................right?

I'm very close to just doing it on the ones I own that are now at 15 years.

You should delete the photo of the competitor's book. They won't think it's ok.

Both prices are about the same right now (roughly $1,900), and you'll get opinions on the future, for each, both ways.

I think the ASM has a brighter future, but who knows???

If you sell the ASM for $4,000 ten years from now, and you pay taxes the way you should, what was the real advantage if you didn't enjoy owning it for that time???

On 3/26/2019 at 9:54 PM, James J Johnson said:

This appears to be a trend and not a mistake.

I've asked Gemma if there was ever a change.

I'm just curious if there are old SA labels where the color touch was professional, but the trimming is what made it "amateur".

This is not that "recent" of a trend.

I found a 2015 label that was A-1, with slight color touch and trimmed. 1249987003

I also found a 2016 label that was C-1, with slight color touch and trimmed. 0296485018

Which is why I said that someone should call them.

It would be nice to know if someone is just having a brain cramp.

I'm reasonably sure that it doesn't have anything to do with the majority of the restoration.

i found an FF 48-- 9.6 that was called B1, on Ebay, that was only slight color touch and all 3 sides trimmed from 12/18.

#20089355002

10 minutes ago, oldrover said:

2002948001 

That's two of them.

Eleven days apart. Newbie assigning grade scale?

Someone should call them and ask what's up.

On 3/20/2019 at 7:36 PM, oldrover said:

I have an A-4 JIM 83 with an edge trimmed. Just had it graded in November. 

I would have bet my life on it being a mistake.

What's the certification number?

CGC' site PDF still says "trimming of any kind" is C (poor).

12 hours ago, Callaway29 said:

Not another one. How many threads on 181’s price do we need?! 

Right. 15 threads in the Bronze age section have had activity in the last week.

There's just a ton of vital info that I should not derail with repetition.

On 1/10/2019 at 11:58 PM, kimik said:

I am looking at adding a WP well centred 9.4 this year...........if I can sell you CDSs on myself for doing that I would gladly do it to help pay for the cost of the book.  

I remember my mother telling me I was stupid for cutting the marvel value stamps out of my comics.

My mother.  

To think that ASM 129 missed by one month from so many copies facing the same fate.

The 9.8  #148 made it over $4,000.

Just amazing.

Good Lord.

A 9.8 White #151 sold on CL at auction for over $2,200?

People realize that there aren't just 10 copies of this now, right?

Ok, I'm kidding........but..........................wow.

I'm really happy that I've never gotten the 9.8 completion bug.

I've never had any problem with 9.2s and 9.4s.

I'm working on replacing this one that I sold about 10 years ago.

That was one of many bad choices back then.

19 hours ago, arexcrooke said:

Amazing Spider-Man 102 CGC 7.5

$100

take it.

I would bet this is all about pressing.

There's a color breaking crease top left corner.

I hate to think that staples are coming loose enough, that the shift of a slab can send the pages shifting to the right during the process of slabbing it.

4 hours ago, spidermanbeyond said:

Book has signs of Shaken Comic Syndrome.  You can search for the topic here on the forum.  I just got 12-13 from a recent shipment that look like this.

Thanks.

This book was graded last October. You received these books back and they were in holders displaying nothing like they looked when you sent them in?

I made a bid on CL for the 128 at the last few minutes, at a pretty low price, and turned out a lot more disappointed with the way it looked than I thought I would.

I'd like opinions from people that have probably looked at thousands more bronze age comics than I have.

What are the chances that protruding pages at the edge of the comic indicates pressing.

I have never noticed this as much as I have in more recent slabs.

52 minutes ago, timfinz said:

Nice looking copy! Are you getting it graded?

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7.5 IMHO!

 

I think that you nailed it, and that's the first time that I ever saw my birth date on a date stamp.

I bet that somewhere I have a photo of me turning 4 that day.

I think there's a distinction.

What he seems to be saying is they know the color touch is there, and without the color touch the grade would be 6.

What I'm saying is they know the color touch is there, and without the color touch the grade would be 4.5.

If they add pieces, and the grade is 9.4, the grade might be 5.0  without the pieces, but now it looks like a 9.4.

16 hours ago, SBRobin said:

6.0 because of the restoration, meaning that if CGC couldn't tell the book was restored, it would be a 6.0 book. The restoration doesn't negatively affect the grade, just the label.

I'm curious about this now.

I always thought what they were saying is if the color touch wasn't there covering the crease, then the crease would be more visible and would affect the grade down.

On 12/28/2018 at 7:58 AM, SECollector said:

That 4.5 that was meant to be a 7.5 looks like it can be a candidate for an 8.0 after a pressing, according to the notes. 

The seller has it back, and now it's in a 7.5 label.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMAZING-SPIDER-MAN-15-CGC-7-5-1st-App-KRAVEN/233130269640?hash=item3647a59bc8:g:EY4AAOSwALdcYho7:rk:18:pf:0&autorefresh=true

He must have talked his neutral feedback guy in to shipping it back.

I really wish I knew if that buyer knew how lucky he should have felt. 

Bad news is, in 3 months the page quality changed from OW to Cream to OW.

On 2/6/2019 at 9:06 PM, Ride the Tiger said:

Purchased ASM #109 and #117. Both were in great condition. They were packaged very well and shipping was quick. I hope to do business again!

Ditto.  I wish you hadn't gotten the #109 before me.

I am extremely happy that I chose to pull the trigger on the 22 ASM books that I bought.

Packaging was flawless.The cases had clearly been cared for while he owned them.

Just an outstanding deal.  A++++++++++++++++

5.5- 6.0

4 minutes ago, makeminemego said:

ASM 7-5.5 OWW-$450

take it.