UncleBEN

On 10/27/2023 at 7:42 PM, sartrexpress said:

I'll take it 

On 8/5/2022 at 5:08 AM, Straw-Man said:

Nice book!! is the 9.8 off center on the label or am I just up way too late?

On 8/25/2022 at 10:45 AM, SpideyFein said:

As an SS collector and lover, specifically for Spidey books, I second what Chrisco said. You will not find better placement on a #14, and I’ve only seen one other 14 with such nice placement. Stan always ruins the 14’s I know that sounds silly, but it’s true. It’s actually not his fault, but that’s another discussion. 
 

Anyhow, I would go for it. It’s a clean 6.0 with nice colors, paper, and the yellow on yellow label looks sweet! Good luck. Oh, and it adds value to the book for sure. 

+1

On 8/20/2022 at 7:14 PM, Dark Knight said:

To me the CL 9.0 > HA 9.2

+1

On 8/20/2022 at 11:00 AM, lou_fine said:

The part that I find strange and a bit irrational is that usually the same people that say they wouldn't pay a dollar more for a book with one othese stickers are usually the same people who would then go out and spend multiples more for a book with a higher CGC graded label even though the book clearly does NOT appear to be as nice as one with a lower graded label.    

Especially since I know a number of collectors who have brought the books with these stickers and then simply resubmitted them back into CGC for regrading and ended up with a higher graded book at a much cheaper cost by just paying for the regrading fee.  They claim it's almost a guarantee for most books (i.e. not every single one) if they go further and CPR the book and they sometimes even come back 2 or 3 grade increments higher defect upon the defects.  Sounds as though they are using the stickers to help them identify potential CPR qualifiable books and figure the battle is more than half won if it has one of these stickers on it, if you are into playing the CPR game.    

Yep, totally don't  understand why collectors would pay mutiples more for a slightly higher graded labeled book when it doesn't appear to be as nice or in line with the CGC grade.  Especially when a dollar value is a fixed known amount, whereas as history has clearly shown us over and over agin, a grade is just a subjective (albeit a so-called expert one) when the book crosses a grader's table and might come up with a different number if on a different day.  What makes it even worse is all of the manipulation that can take place as we have seen books moved right up from a CGC 9.0 to a CGC 9.8. 

I guess it's really a case of to each their own, and that's why I tend to go more with the overall eye appeal of a book as opposed to a sometimes very changeable CGC label.  Especially since I am more of the old school pre-CGC generation of collector who doesn't need to own the highest graded copy of a book for my own personal collection.  

Missed this post from my previous reply , you pretty well summed it all up . 👍

On 8/20/2022 at 10:40 AM, lou_fine said:

 

I would tend to agree that both are trying to achieve the same purpose on behalf of their consignors.  

If you compare the Qes and the CVA sticker programs though, I would prefer the QES sticker more since it at least comes up with an individual listing of why that particular book receive the QES sticker in the first place.  The CVA sticker, on the other hand, is just a sticker with the same blanket general explanation applied to all of the books that supposedly qualifies for one.    

I get that , and do agree . However Metro and gang usually highlight the same aspects regardless of QES most of the time in the same verbiage . For the new collector it is more helpful , and the seasoned one can appreciate the summary and see if they agree.

In my experience the CVA books are much sharper then QES by a landslide . 
Truthfully I think most veteran collectors here have been buying the book and not the label so not much of an impact .

Although I have had CVA books on a small sample size get a bump without a CPR .

QES books I have not resubbed and with lead times and QC issues , it’s probably not going to happen for a few years anyway .

I would be interested in feedback from others that own both stickers for resubs and general book quality though 

On 8/12/2022 at 11:17 PM, Lightning55 said:

I'm sure he is a good dealer, but it worries me when someone states that the raw comic they are selling is a 9.9

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265816912452?hash=item3de3ec3244:g:mVAAAOSwc6Fi7obw

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265816904465?hash=item3de3ec1311:g:-o8AAOSwJili7oT6

There is some chance they have that 1 in a million copy.  But then, wouldn't you send it in yourself?  I'd like to get a 9.9 back, but I don't think it will happen in my lifetime.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/265816929308?hash=item3de3ec741c:g:mHAAAOSwm8Fi7ou4

Definitely NOT a 9.9

On 7/31/2022 at 2:52 PM, rube11 said:

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #28  7.0  OW/W  SOLID BOOK AND IF NOT FOR THE BOTTOM EDGE, IT WOULD GRADE MUCH HIGHER  $750

 

Take this smoking deal per PM, thanks Steve

On 7/29/2022 at 12:44 PM, Bluemedgroup said:

But are they really "super hot"? It looks like prices are dropping right now. 

Last 9.2 sold at $4100, down from 4600, 5500, 4945.  

Last 9.4 sold at $5100, down from 6435, 6999.  

Last 9.6 sold at $8400, down from 9942, 9600

More like super cold to me.  

Guess it is all relative, I get what you are saying. But I never would have thought we would ever see sales this high for a common book. BA keys have gone pretty nutty over the last year in my opinion

Last 129 9.6 I grabbed was 3k for a white page perfectly wrapped copy

What does 129 9.8 sell for these days ?  My signed copy was under 14k, my White pager albeit awhile back was significantly less

The last Hulk 181 9.8 W I picked up was 17k for example...

Just seems like a crazy trajectory for very common books, but you are correct the market is correcting but I personally think there are a lot more variables in play and desire for these books will remain strong.  Just will take some time for the economy to correct itelf.

On 7/25/2022 at 9:18 AM, Peter Loves Gwen said:

I see this thread began after I stopped my collecting, and now it's an old thread LOL. I still have my 9.6 and three raw copies I got in the late 70's. I think those cost me about $15 each at a local show yearly, and they will end up in the 8.0-9.0 range.

 

This one I think is a solid 9.6 and can't be pushed up, who might think it's worth a try;

Beautiful copy but I think you are stuck at a 9.6 based on the notes, as you said pretty hard to grade without it being out of the case

 

 

 

 

CGC Cert #

0965706009

Title

Amazing Spider-Man

Grader Notes

Center Spine Small Scratch Breaks Color
Left Top Front Cover Small Printer's Tears

 

 

On 7/12/2022 at 8:33 AM, DT0428 said:

Got this at a steal Upgraded my 3.5 copy. The 3.5 will go up for auction next month comic connect. 

Smoking deal at $49,200! Others were asleep at the wheel and NP Gresham's keyboard batteries must have died.

Congrats you will do well on this one, love the vivid colors on the center image.

Keep it !!! You wont find a better priced 5.0..

Thanks for sharing

On 5/22/2022 at 1:37 PM, TheGeneral said:

Amazing Spider-Man #37 CGC 9.0 $1600

 

Take per PM ,

On 5/20/2022 at 5:44 PM, pickycollector said:

Here is mine, bought from Harley 20 years ago at triple Guide

Harley seemed to have quite a few of these back then . Both copies I picked up were at least 3x guide as well so you aren’t alone in that regard . Guess it all makes sense now  

On 5/21/2022 at 7:04 AM, alexgross.com said:

https://comics.ha.com/itm/silver-age-1956-1969-/superhero/amazing-fantasy-15-marvel-1962-cgc-fn-55-white-pages/a/122221-17038.s?type=lotlink--bidnotice-tracked-dailystatus

well, already at 111k. either someone doesn't care about presentation, or this might be one of halperin's own books that he allegedly bids on in his own auctions to ensure it does not sell for less than before. 

if that is color touch removal, i honestly don't see how it does not qualify as restoration. it's clearly more than just scraping off some pigment. it totally makes an unsightly mark THAT WAS NOT THERE ORIGINALLY and affects an area well over one inch long. i smell some shenanigans on this book. 

Sure looks like a tear was sealed there to me, omitting that area looks like a sharp 5.5, but personally I could not own this book with that defect.

And I would wager a guess that someone got a little aggressive with the cleaning based on the grader notes, honestly I wish CPR was not a thing .....

I would suspect the White pages (lightening perhaps) fetch a premium especially with Halperin involved....as they are tough to find. The last high grade copy I saw was 20+ years ago and Geppi outbid me, pretty tough competitor at the time.

1975051001

Title

Amazing Fantasy

Grader Notes

crease right center of front cover breaks color
gloss streaks back cover
spine stress lines cover breaks color
tear right center of front cover

On 4/1/2022 at 12:57 PM, lighthouse said:

I will take them, seriously :P 

On 3/10/2022 at 9:58 AM, GrasshopperFF said:

I’m taking 50, and I’m officially a Spider-Man collector! Been drooling over this one since it posted. 

Called it!  I knew you would come to the dark side soon :P 

On 3/5/2022 at 3:33 PM, GrasshopperFF said:

Is there hate on this board for ASM? Are those books so exceedingly high that they should be avoided? Ive got to admit that, in all my recent passion for collecting, I have not found myself wanting a Spider-Man book.  

It just takes one   But with the current trajectory of high grade early ASM they might not be suited for a limited budget. 

On 3/5/2022 at 11:41 AM, GrasshopperFF said:

Great advice. I definitely wouldn’t swing at something if it would cause hardship. Over the last month I’ve likely only confused/angered my wife! My best get is a Hulk 181 7.5 white pages. Close second is a FF 48 7.0. Others purchased that I like a lot, even in some higher grades, but not as pricey as those 2. The last 2 I want (famous last words?) are JIM 85 in highest grade (like the advice to be picky within each grade — learning about the in-grade variable, like “white pages”, etc) and a high grade FF 52. Hulk, Silver Surfer, Loki, Black Panther  and Doctor Strange (higher grade DS 169 not as pricey). Then I’m done. And hopefully my wife gets over the indulgence. 

Nice list, fortunate for you there are not any early ASM'S in it , I would go for the FF 52  

On 3/1/2022 at 5:35 PM, Batmanis#1 said:

Don't know things change so much over the months. It is not the nicest 8.0 I have seen but still a 8.0 never the less.

looks pretty sharp, and I believe it is an original owner from a collection TonyEtrade discovered in Lake Shasta, some very nice books he found. 

On 2/9/2022 at 6:46 PM, innocuous said:

I would stick with the IH181. Both characters are great, but if you are considering growth potential, I think the 181, has more potential. It's a first appearance and there is a bigger market of copies that change hands frequently.

Now if it was an AF15, then I switch sides.

ASM 1 has some first's . 

The only reason I would keep the 181 is it is in a downward trend right now , and your ROI will be lower.

Personally I do think ASM 1 is a much better book, and with AF15 climbing and climbing , many will be looking for the next best thing. 

On 1/21/2022 at 1:58 PM, Batmanis#1 said:

Hope this input helps. My honest opinion after collecting for over 40 years is this. If it was any other book in the silver age I would be worried about such a rise in price. But AF15 is that one exception. Spiderman is loved worldwide. To me it goes like this best book in the entire SA goes to AF15 and best team of the entire SA goes to X-Men 1.

I doubt it will lower much in value and at some point it may stay still for years value wise in most grades. Then one day it may explode again or not we will have to wait for that. I know the T206 Honus Wagner baseball card stayed put for years and years in say PSA 1 at 450k to 550k now it is a 2$ million dollar card or more in the same grade. Will this happen to AF15 no one knows that is the truth.

I do not think Hulk 1 or any other book for that matter will be even close to AF15 in the SA that time has changed. I no longer see it as AF15 and Hulk 1 playing catch up like AC1 and TEC27. AF15 is in a league of its own and it will take a whole lot for any book to near it in the future.

 

Feels like Deja Vu on this thread again.  

JIM 83 and TOS 39 continue on an aggressive trajectory.

Last year I picked up a 9.0 and a 9.2 respectively for a fraction of these prices, JIM 83 7.5's are a a 60k book now?  

https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/history.asp?item=1534516

And last I was watching the TOS 39 8.5 was 80k ish, not sure where it ended.

Its going to be an interesting year ..............

On 1/20/2022 at 11:58 AM, Dimez said:

Whenever he needs a new boat

Hopefully a big enough one that he sells some of his keys