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On 9/17/2020 at 12:54 PM, Batmanis#1 said:

For me I would not take the risk of shipping anything over $2500 I could not take the loss if the item was lost or stolen on the way there or on the way back to me. Just not worth it.

Buy insurance , CIS covers all this.

CBCS makes a better holder now period and they have no such disclaimer , makes me think about making the switch 

20 hours ago, Sweet Lou 14 said:

I have finally completed the #1-700 run.  Still dreaming of a 9.0, but 8.0 WP is more than good enough for now.

Great colors , the best characteristic of superb paper quality IMHO

And you can't beat the dealer you bought it from 

He sure blows through the high grade ASM'S fast ! 

9.8's do not equate to a perfect book . This is not even close to a 9.4 as previous posters indicated . 
Would I love you have it , sure . Would I rather have 4 9.4's  ,yes that is a no brainer for me .

Paging @Colorado Comics . I would LUV your 9.6 when you snag this 😉

17 hours ago, StreetPreacher said:

And I've always wonered exactly what's going on in this cover?  What is beast swinging on?  Is Jean Grey just modeling her new outfit?  And Iceman is attacking Magneto with snowballs?  It appears that the 'angel' with a bazooka is the only 'threat', and we know magneto could easily disable a metal gun!   At least Cyclops appears to be making a dent...

Sorry, was responding to different posts...  apologies. But thanks for the label info,  I'll go stand in the corner now.

Wonder who this really is .

New to the forum , I don't think so .

On 9/19/2017 at 12:34 AM, mosconi said:

Feel free to show it off!  I happened to see this one online and it got me wondering what others may have to share 

Haven't seen many SA or BA 10's though...

 

I know a comic shop that had a long box full of these all pristine . Mine all came back 9.9 with a red modern label , a 10 does not surprise me in the slightest 

5 hours ago, StreetPreacher said:

 

Here you go!  Both for sale at a local shop for the EXACT same price! Also just noticed that one is direct and the other is UPC, but not sure that makes any difference for this issue? And since it now costs $55 to submit a book to CGC through the LCS, the cost of the actual book could be considered to only be costing you ~$20!  

Of course, even if I had a 9.8 copy of this, I'm not sure i'd bother having it slabbed, but since I need this book, and someone has already paid to have it done...  I was also planning to ask the seller if the 'dust'? visible at the bottom of the 'A' in the title is on the shell, of if it's a blemish on the actual book...  As far as I can tell, both issues have been sitting around for a couple of months at least, so it seems not many people want to pay extra to get a graded copy of this.

 

ICE is a local shop?  Let me know how that ASM 10 9.6 looks in hand, if the L was a little more visible it would be off the market ;P 

On 8/25/2020 at 6:21 PM, Jordysnordy said:

Correction THIS is the biggest stunner of the night $60K 

Wonder who snagged this one, it did not go to whom I thought it would darn it as I really wanted his undercopy. But they got sniped , which is astonishing considering his collection

I will be curious to see if we have another contender in this market or if its one of the usual suspects

15 hours ago, Sweet Lou 14 said:

Even if you're intent on having your books in CGC slabs, you would presumably be better off with the CBCS 9.4 because you can submit it for crossover grading.  Your chances of it coming back below 9.0 would be vanishingly small -- most likely you'd get a CGC 9.2+.

Every CBCS book I have submitted have come back from CGC at least 1-2 full grades higher. All early ASM'S in high grade 

3 hours ago, Straw-Man said:

i grabbed one of those "new highs."   love it!   down to one possible numerical upgrade--#11 [will always stay on the lookout for a ped bump on a book, even if lateral or maybe a notch below if still a 9 on the front].

I knew you would be grabbing this one ;P

Selling your undercopy now?

And after ALL that Dylan listed this today without denoting anything in the description 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Spider-Man-7-CGC-6-0-OW-W-Marvel-1963-2nd-Vulture/224133719117?hash=item342f69244d:g:Mk0AAOSwYaZfFzvX

I don't know what to say . Thoughts ?

4 hours ago, Jordysnordy said:

So many new GPA highs on books I was bidding/following.

I think the biggest stunner to me was the ASM 41 9.4 going for $6100.00 - @Sweet Lou 14 hope you still have my copy 😂 

Here are some of the big winners of the night in terms of new highs.

What did these close at ?  
Seems we are just seeing the spike in prices , everyone better buckle up  
And to think I paid a record high for my ASM 14 9.4 at that time . 
I can at least say that it doesn't come up in that grade very often . 

Forget Hamil, I would love to see what Bruce Peck still has......Pretty impressive runs and even more impressive storage 

On 8/20/2020 at 8:17 AM, J-KComics said:

Hello, So I sent off My Batman #171 after it was signed to CBCS and It Came back a "6.0"      Just a month earlier it was graded by CGC and Came Back a "7.0" before it was professionaly cleaned... I asked CBCS what went wrong they said well there is a check mark here on the graded case that means they noticed something in the book??? No grader notes on the Website. The Book was still in the same shape as when it came back from CGC?   

CBCS reasoning was well we grade them at a higher standard.... I laiughed and said so what you're telling me is that I should strictly go to CGC because my comics will be more valuable?   She didn't know what to say?   Yes I know why did I go To CBCS... Because they are local and clearly I did not think this through...   What do you think went wrong? Besides the obvious?

Check mark is CBCS indicating that the book looks better then the assigned grade, similar to QES and CVA. 

Anytime you resubmit there is always a gamble , would there have been an issue if it came back higher?

Or were you looking for the exact same grade between two competing companies using different graders?

5 hours ago, Jordysnordy said:

August CL auction 

I would bet the bank Scott @Colorado Comics has a pretty good eye on this one. 

I hope so as I would love his undercopy..wink wink

1 minute ago, jbpez said:

David Byrne is so darn good !

Let' see those ASM'S

11 minutes ago, Sweet Lou 14 said:

OK, so ... help me out here.  Can you take a guess as to the grade this book would land on if someone could somehow remove all those pieces and clue and color touch and cover reinforcement?  Would the book really be worth more at that severely lowered grade with a blue label?

That's a tough one , without the book in hand or Heritage high res like scans 

I would wager that top right corner might come off . Along with some of the color touch scraped off along the stress marks of the spine . The cover reinforcement is usually just on the interior staples and could also be where there was color touch .

The biggest factor here would be the tear seals for me to guess a grade .

What does a blue label 6.5/7.0 sell for ?

$35-45K?

I can't imagine this goes for more then 20-25 K but I could be way off base , contingent on what the bidders goal is 

Of course there have been many examples where this has backfired and the flipper went upside down , lately it was an AF15 that was hideously done .

Personally I wouldn't touch this book but clearly this "restoration removal"  is becoming a big problem in the hobby .

At least it's not in a hulk character label wrongly slabbed .  😳

1 hour ago, peewee22 said:

How do you un-"pieces added"?

Seems to me based on the LONG list of books that have been flipped from PLOD to blue they use the exact science of tearing them off unfortunately 

1 hour ago, Sweet Lou 14 said:

 

I don't know much about removing restoration, but there's a really long list of things that were done to this book, so I'm not sure how someone would even attempt to undo them all without destroying the book.

Oh I didn't say it would be pretty but its still a blue slab easily 

23 hours ago, peewee22 said:

Hey GK 

Nice book but I wonder what criteria CGC uses to separate Slight, Moderate, etc. This H1 is Slight but there is a narrative a mile long to accompany it. 

 

Bet we see this in a blue label very soon

17 hours ago, Ghastly542454 said:

Beautiful book!!

Would love to see the notes on this one, I had it a full point higher from the raw front cover scan 

Very sharp 5.0

10 minutes ago, EC Star&Bar said:

This is not really in defense of the seller, but you would think when someone is about to spend a few grand on a book, he/she would make sure to read ALL of the comments on the label.  I think the seller would be willing to help if necessary in that regard.  I've read most of the other thread and I'd like to remain neutral on the matter, but I just think a buyer going for a book of that value would make sure they've read the label...!

And how about the other sellers like all things comics etc, kellys superheroes that write a one line restoration line after all of their pictures and verbiage .

Either way you have a seller trying to pass it off as an unrestored book.

ANY restoration should be clearly denoted, anything less then that is shady 

11 hours ago, dylanthekid said:

I am replying to you calling me out right now which is within 12 hours, and I also do this thing called sleeping, so if you think I'm gonna sit by my computer waiting for someone to message me while I try to supply really great books at fair prices to my customers you are 100% wrong.

Thanks for the reply , you 100 percent will not be supplying books to me .

Can't wait to see how that ASM 9 turns out at full GPA with trimmer edges and color touch .

Oh, is this one of your really great books at fair priced ? 
 

You mentioned people don't read , I assume you meant the mislabeled books you sold ? As you auction's verbiage had nothing indicating that these were restored books incorrectly slabbed by CGC 

Just curious how you might feel if you paid top dollar for a book like this missing the picture ( as honestly on a mobile device it's not so clear ) 

Based on your previous replies I can see that this might invoke a temper tantrum but seriously you think this is okay ?

11 hours ago, dylanthekid said:

High quality scan, so no excuses. We also have not actually determined if it is restoration at all.

No restoration ?  Please elaborate on the attached scan of just one of the books you have sold in this pattern 

Seems I missed a few pages so this is a redundant reply . But here is the 9 label just to take a peek

I do think the restoration notations font is an issue especially on this background , CGC could remedy it slightly with a C1 etc remark in the numerical grade .Perhaps 

1 hour ago, Lightning55 said:

The graphic labels are only for Blue and Yellow labels, no other colors.  If your book deserves a Purple label, they don't substitute Blue just to get the $5 for the graphic. 

I have had books submitted to receive labels, and missed some very slight color touch on 2 books.  The labels came back Purple, and no graphic because there are no graphic labels in Purple.  Being so disappointed by the Purple labels, it took me a few days to realize I had also paid for 2 graphics I didn't get.  I'll have to recoup that from customer service and accounting. 

Anyway, just saying that just because they ordered the graphic shouldn't preclude them from getting a Purple label.  But in the confusion of shuffling from department to department, it might have happened exactly that way.

Well that is ALOT of misses.....I would wager these label "errors" are in triple digits