jjeanius

How about 1A 9.9 SS..?

 

You really loaded up on that reply!

 

I probably deserved it. However, you did take the first cheap shot with the cool aide!

 

Believe it or not, the only thing I am trying to figure out is the initial print run for Star Wars #1.

 

The rest is just prideful noise from me.

 

I have an email into Marvel asking for any help they might provide.

 

P.s. I did think my obscure reference to "From Justin to Kelly" had some humorous value for American Idol fans.

Ha - fair enough. Truce!

BTW, just for the record: The "kool-aid" comment was directed towards the sudden overzealous hype for this book, and was not specifically aimed towards you (or anyone else).

The kool-aid is strong with this one.

 

Yeesh - I can barely see through the clouds of hype around here. *NEWSFLASH* - this book wasn't discovered yesterday. I remember seeing this book on a dealer wall at my first convention in 1985, with a price tag of $8. Even then, at the age of 10, I was already aware of how incredibly common this book was. It's not rare, it's never been rare, it will never be rare. And Star Wars has been popular for almost 40 years now, and this has *ALWAYS* been reflected in the price of this book. And yet, the book almost triples in "value" over the last six months...? Does that seem reasonable?

 

IMO, dropping $1800 on a 9.8 #1 might be the single WORST thing I can think of to do with that money. If I have the books, I'm selling them All. Day. Long. If I'm a buyer...I'm not buying. Simple as that.

 

Why, the condescension is strong with this one as well. A lovely trait!

 

A drug bing? Setting it on fire? Going to see "From Justin to Kelly" 1,000 times in the theater until the money was spent? None of these made your lists of worst ideas but this purchase did?

 

I thought it was fairly obvious that I was speaking within the context of investing the money on comics. I guess you have a hard time inferring what was implied within the context of the conversation, so I will be sure to spell it out for you more clearly in the future.

I am trying to provide "facts" here.

Look forward to that. Please proceed whenever you are ready

People keep claiming they printed "millions of these things" "one for every man woman and child", etc. and they have no actual data on how this book was printed and the dynamics around the initial print and reprints.

Are you fabricating quotes now, too...?

"Rare" is relative.

No, it's not. Rare is rare. Demand might be relative to supply, and vice versa, but RARE is certainly not relative.

Even if they printed 100,000, it was highly collected by many and the survival rate would be high I would think relative to other more common titles.

 

That could result in a supply much above some bronze age comics when you consider survival rates even with a lower initial print run.

So, wait...are you saying it's "rare"...?

If that data sounds like cool-aide to you, I guess I should enjoy the cool-aide. I find it more satisfying to do some actual research on the topic then to listen to a story about a boy who was 10 at a convention and making that my "definitive data" on how rare a book actually is.

Sadly, my 10-year-old self still has a better grasp on this market than you do.

Pretty sure I saw that ASM Cap page at ECCC last year with a price tag of $4k...? Discussed it with several collectors at the time, and consensus was that the price was fair.

What was the previous sale on the Marvel Tales cover? I know Albert had it for a very long time, but I thought it finally changed hands @ $25k...?

PS--just because they were supposedly "royalty free" for the first 100,000 copies, I see no reason why this would have *ANY* bearing on the print run - especially since the books are returnable, and royalties would only apply AFTER 100,000 copies had already been sold. If anything, this would give Marvel even more incentive to up the print run, as their profit margin would be higher on the first 100,000, and anything after that is just gravy.

The kool-aid is strong with this one.

Yeesh - I can barely see through the clouds of hype around here. *NEWSFLASH* - this book wasn't discovered yesterday. I remember seeing this book on a dealer wall at my first convention in 1985, with a price tag of $8. Even then, at the age of 10, I was already aware of how incredibly common this book was. It's not rare, it's never been rare, it will never be rare. And Star Wars has been popular for almost 40 years now, and this has *ALWAYS* been reflected in the price of this book. And yet, the book almost triples in "value" over the last six months...? Does that seem reasonable?

IMO, dropping $1800 on a 9.8 #1 might be the single WORST thing I can think of to do with that money. If I have the books, I'm selling them All. Day. Long. If I'm a buyer...I'm not buying. Simple as that.

I can't make myself buy this book.

+1

I just wonder what the first sale will bring on a 9.8. $300? $350?

 

a lot less than what the seller would've gotten if he didn't show that he owned several other copies.

+1

Dumbest move a seller can make. "Don't worry - you don't need to win THIS one. If you lose, I will have another one up a few days later. And then another...and another....

Whoa

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Edge-of-Spider-Verse-2-1st-Printing-1st-App-Spider-Woman-Gwen-Stacy-/391059669400?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5b0cf90198

 

...and

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Edge-of-Spider-Verse-2-1st-Printing-1st-App-Spider-Woman-Gwen-Stacy-/251845867094?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa32ef656

 

Chalk both of them up to the deadly combination of a misleading picture + bidders too dumb to read

Think I will post an auction with a group shot of 30 copies (listing for one book) and see if I can get $1000+

Think so. The one I used was "fist_fck" - got exactly what I ordered.

Their code words don't even work on "new" books anyway. What a sham.

Wow.

 

I am all out of stock on the Bay. Saying this book is hot is an ENORMOUS understatement.

FTFY!

Shhh...! Stop giving away all my best secrets!

I wouldn't be surprised if $630 for an NYCC CGC 9.8 is market price within a week.. Post-NYCC, it was already a $300 book in 9.8. Is it really that hard to believe that it would double after the announcement?

 

Look at you with your logic!

 

He wants to flip it though, so if that is the market in a week, I'm not sure it's gonna move upward until the pilot has been cast/shot.

That's fair.

What...?!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...........

I wouldn't be surprised if $630 for an NYCC CGC 9.8 is market price within a week.. Post-NYCC, it was already a $300 book in 9.8. Is it really that hard to believe that it would double after the announcement?

(and, of course, they'd get green labels)

I was the only guy pulling it.

*snicker*

 

In that context... I don't think I was alone.

Hedge your bets. Sell enough now to cover your entire investment on the title, then hold onto the rest.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=111600726387

 

This is a joke right?

Not necessarily! We'll know more once a few more books change hands post-announcement.

When I take things to printers they usually tell me 1,200 is the minimum to start up the presses, etc. I have a hard time believing anyone placed a 100 copy order of anything much less comic books....

Minimum order is 100 on Enormous variants.

I count 55 active, 48 sold - and 10 in my longbox.

What are the odds again that the print run is 100 or less...?

54 sales is a lot on a book with a supposed print run of 100 or so.

You can add to that the 10 copies I have myself.

Are there really only 36 that haven't otherwise been accounted for...?

With the numbers I have seen on eBay, I have a hard time believing print runs were that low on Kaiju or Creature Feature.