Hollywood1892

17 minutes ago, 01TheDude said:

jeez-- pick an avatar already. You've been here almost two weeks

 

🤣how do I do that?

39 minutes ago, Karl Liebl said:

My threshold is more like 500 bucks, unless I have sentimental attachment.

Thanks guys😁

To submit comics that are worth less than the actual price of the grade?

When grading, what should the average value if the comic be?

I have a lot of spec comics, and slot of comics within 50 to 100 dollars.

Is the grade important on those?

Thanks

18 minutes ago, Buzzetta said:

It is important to keep holy the day... or something like that. 

Thou keep holy the day saith the Lord.

Take me drunk, I am home🤪

On 2/22/2019 at 6:38 PM, 01TheDude said:

Before I begin- this is not meant to belittle your collecting knowledge. I am responding to what you wrote and how it comes across so there may be a little context missing from your original post. I am only taking it at face value. Please read on....

At the very least-- you should be opening a book once before you purchase it to examine it -- making sure all pages are there, there are no cutouts or interior damage whatsoever, and to evaluate the condition of the pages (white pages, off white, tan, cream, brittle etc). Or if purchased indirectly - inspect it upon arrival.

Before you get mad at me - I only point this out to @Hollywood1892 in case they are skipping this critical step thinking that they are harming the book by opening it. You can examine the book very carefully without causing any damage (wash your hands and wear some gloves if you are super concerned). Maybe that was not your point in the initial post but just in case you are not doing this check (a semi-rookie mistake even the most seasoned collector among us has made) - it is a best practice. Once you have done that-- you can proceed with never opening it again if you choose. But never opening a comic book ever could potentially just put off the discovery of any issues until you go to sell or get it graded- turning it into a "surprise!".

As for getting anyone not in the hobby to understand how many of us treat our collectibles as more of a "look but do not touch" item-- that is really hard to explain to people. But they tend not to understand the value of the books/items in general.

Cheers!🤙👉👈🤣😀

Thanks man

I appreciate that. Sometimes I just show my boss what I am going to spend my paycheque on, hes Russian so he talks with a thick accent I say "Is that crazy?" He says "Thats not crazy,that's absolutely crazy" it's kinda funny bantering but I think hes coming around, or at least beggining to understand.

2 minutes ago, Buzzetta said:

Chillax and have a margarita. 

 

 

🍹😁

Better now!

2 hours ago, Mecha_Fantastic said:

What are you trying to say? Are you talking about owning the original art of the comic? Because your Van Gogh example is the equivalent of owning a Van Gogh print, not an original. 

No wonder people don't get it, if you're mixing your metaphors like that. 

I'm not, I imagine the original art is far more valuable, but in that case prints carry value too😁

2 hours ago, nepatkm said:

It’s all good, she learned a lesson. She still reads, and enjoys the movies and shows. Just not making big purchases that aren’t already graded. 

We have a 6 year old daughter now, so when we do go to a convention, there’s plenty of other things for them to do and enjoy. ( my daughter loves getting little sketches done) while I get to hunt and purchase items on my own for a bit without feeling bad that she may be bored. 

Nice

It feels good being able to share in your passion with loved ones, and being able to raise your daughter with that same passion must feel like a sense of accomplishment for you.

😊

1 hour ago, Turtle said:

Unscrupulous sellers (not just in comics, many collectible fandoms) have made Certificates of Authenticity more or less a joke.  They work well as a means of establishing provenance of the item, but the signature on it is only as legitimate as the person who created the COA.  COA's can be made in mass quantities by absolutely anyone.  If you plan on being in this hobby long, I'd recommend treating them as nothing more than a quirky extra.  Don't treat COA's as concrete evidence that the signature is legitimate. 

CGC's Signature Series, when you think about it, is just a form of COA with a few extra perks (verification + grading + restoration detection + encapsulation).  Every Sig Series book has a signature that has been witnessed by someone CGC as a company trusts.  Once the book is signed, the witness keeps the book in their possession until it gets into CGC's hands so the chain of custody is never broken.  Because CGC trusts their witnesses, they can certify that the books they send in are 100% verified as authentic because the witness physically watched the book signed by the creator listed on the form. 

Any book not signed in front of a witness has a questionable element to it.  You could have a COA.  You could have video evidence of the person signing your book.  You could take it back to the creator and have them verify the signature.  It doesn't matter.  Forgers, liars, and scammers will always find ways to exploit these conditions.  Since the Signature Series label is based exclusively on trust, CGC will maintain high standards to maintain that trust.  If they started incorporating questionable elements into the process, the public trust would be broken and the Signature Series program would crumble. 

 

Thanks😊

It's frustrating explaining yo people who dont collect why I purchase something and never open it, even though that's its designation.

Comics are as much an artform as they are a story. I can get the story secondhand it makes no difference, but I can never recover the art if it gets damaged.

Would someone purchase a Van Gogh and run their greasy hands across the canvas?

I think not!🤔

If you have C.O.A

CGC will still give it green label?

I have a signed copy of RAI 0 and Vengeance of Bane 2nd print. I even have COAs on both and pictures with Jim Shooter signing the book. I dont understand why CGC wont authenticate it, on pawn stars when someone brings in something autographed they call in an authenticator.

As the lead source on grading comics, wouldn't it be a good idea to hire someone who strictly authenticates autographs?

9 hours ago, nepatkm said:

So Anyway my wife will not buy any raw comics for me now, just CGC graded as raw untrusted.  😃 and really doesn’t like or trust dealers at conventions anymore.. so we don’t go to many nowadays, especially out of state. 

My advice-Check your books, and know the item you’re purchasing before buying. 

Anyone else want to share a sad tale, or book that doesn’t belong?

I dont want to share a sad tale, just a response.

That's crazy!🤯

How does he get away with that? I just went to the show this weekend and only bought one graded copy. Now I'm reluctant to send in the raw copies I purchased for fear of being made a fool of. And now your wife could of been an avid collector is now reluctant to purchase comics upgraded.

That's a shame😪

25 minutes ago, Wipple said:

From March 2001. About 1 year after cgc starting encapsulating.

Amazing!

4 minutes ago, maraxusofkeld said:

Those are some of the most beautiful comics I have ever seen, people dont realise that comics are art with a story.

6 minutes ago, kav said:

I wouldnt *spoon* with oakman tho-too many chemical weapons not to mention bee-honed reflexes.

This post has taken on a mind of its own😎

2 minutes ago, kav said:

We all got quarters and went to an old fashioned store to buy candy.  Back then candy was behind glass and you told em what you wanted.  I happened to see the rack of comics and went over.  Mesmerized, I selected Action #350 and Adventure #356.  I had one cent left over for red licorice.  They were pretty big back then.  I read the Action under a tree and the Adventure as we left Jimboy's tacos.  

That's amazing 😉

36 minutes ago, comics4all said:

That’s what this hobby is all about! 

 

That's pretty heartwarming actually.

Thank you for that 😊🤗

9 minutes ago, Dave2739 said:

I don't remember the details quite as clearly as @nepatkm, but my first funnybook was Incredible Hulk 249. My grandma took me and my big brother to 7-11 and let us pick out some comics. We both ended up with the same comic, so I wrote my name in ink at the very top of the splash page in the white space. I still have that comic.
I then ended up discovering that I could actually read the stories in a comic called Spidey Super Stories because the Easy Reader (from the Electric Company) told me it was easy to read (it was!). That was the first series that I actively collected until I finished the run. I still have those too.

Hey @Hollywood1892

and bitcoin guy, what connects you fellas to this hobby we love so much?

I'm not sure I can speak for bitcoin. I used to collect comics as a kid too, and the cards, I also collected sports cards, but now I've gotten back into it and I enjoy it.

Thanks for the support, I know my personality can be a little abrasive, but with a bit of patience I bet we can learn a lot about each other

11 minutes ago, nepatkm said:

@Hollywood1892

And just to expand a little on what @Dave2739 has posted, you’re bragging on books many members here on the boards have owned since they picked them up of the newsstand 

example here is the first book I ever purchased as a kid, yes I still own it. (Plus a couple more) 

Well, thats no big deal here either..There are many much wiser members on this board than myself with way deeper knowledge, passion and collections than I could ever dream of having.

Relax a bit, and enjoy the knowledge of these members, instead of bragging about what common issues you own, and let the members come to appreciate your collection on their own terms  

Best of luck, and congratulations on your pick ups 

(Post them in the “This week in your collection” thread) we’d be happy to see them there  

 

Punisher was my favourite superhero growing up, I dont think I will ever have the money to get asm 129 or hulk 181

I have punisher 1 and wolverine 1

And I want a big collection with a wide variety though if I could only have 5 comic books it would be

Asm 129

Hulk 181

Asm 361

New mutants 98

Batman 1

6 minutes ago, tv horror said:

Not really! I just love comics not their worth. 

Maybe it's not about the rarity of comics as much about the speculation of movie success?

I feel much more relieved than!

I guess you'll be angered to know I just received new avengers 11 and 27 and marvel point zero Sam nova in the mail today

2 minutes ago, comics4all said:

Thank you Sir!

I grow weary of this. 

If you cannot stand me, than why respond to my posts, who is controlling who. And dr Jekyll mr hyde,seems a little ridiculous 

Regardless of my personality. I just wanted to find a site where I could talk comics and learn the industry, if you wanted to run me off because you didnt agree with the way I conducted myself, than just ignore me, dont respond to my posts 300 times

7 minutes ago, mattn792 said:

Here's the problem with generically asking "what should I buy?" -- every experienced collector is going to immediately mark you as just another speculator trying to make a quick buck.  And yes, that will elicit a lot of snide responses because that isn't what the majority of us are here for, nor are we going to do market research for you.  Now, a question like "what are some good Spider-Man/X-Men/Wolverine stories that I should be on the lookout for this weekend?" will definitely get you places. 

Why would anyone label you a "thief" for putting a premium on your books on a site like eBay?  People do it all the time.

You're really going over the top on this.  Just because dude was asking $250 on X-Force 11 doesn't mean he's trying to defraud someone.  Its a comic book, not a bundle of junk mortgage backed securities falsely rated as AAA.  What you see is what you get, and what you pay is what you think its worth.  If an inexperienced speculator shows up and pays sticker price, lesson learned for Mr. Speculator.

But odds are also good he's never going to sell it at that price based on the current market.  If he's too inflexible in his ways and shuns negotiation, then the market is going to punish him in the end when he's stuck with a bunch of overpriced inventory. 

Totally agreed with everything you said.

I dont feel hammered.

I appreciate,both constructive criticism when I am out of line as well as positive feedback when I have done something right, I am an infant when it comes to collecting and like any infant that's how you learn. If I feel I am being harshly judged than I will respond accordingly.

Thanks guys

I just wanted to chat about the comics I got. And I want to build a respectable and strong collection.🍻

1 hour ago, oakman29 said:

The best you two can do is not come on here with guns blazing, and learn from the people who have been here a long time, and have quite a bit of time collecting. 

There is  a vast amount of knowledge about everything here,  so soak it up instead of bragging to people who don't really care what you're bragging about.

We've all been there many years ago. 

Even though I've been collecting superhero books for 40 years, I got into Warren horror books and was very uninformed about them, and I allowed the experts in this genre to teach me. I still feel noobish even after 7 or so years of collecting them. 

What I'm getting at is just read and learn from board members here , that's all.

Plenty of good info here both in direct conversation and constructive criticism, I appreciate all of it. I put out a thread early on about raw vs cgc and got mocked I quickly realised in certain aspects comic collecting is an old boys club, and it's a club I desire to be apart of and support. I support all of your opinions some of them I respect ,others disregard. Before I posted this thread I asked what comics I should buy at the show, and I was mocked. 

That dealer at the show was burning people,ripping them off, if I was outside the showdown g the same thing I would be labelled a thief, why does being ane perienced dealer make it okay.

I noticed that some dealers take advantage of ignorance and innocence, it's a business, this dealer even acknowledged that he was ripping people off or he wouldnt have reacted in the manner he did.