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Some undercopies looking for a new home. Rules: NO unsavory sorts, e.g., Probation List or Hall of Shame members. "I'll take it" in thread will trump any negotiations in PM, emails, etc. Payment: Check or money order, please. Will ship as soon as payment clears. Shipping: $10.00 USD for first slab and $5 each slab after thatb via USPS to continental USA. Return Policy: No returns on CGC graded books unless there was damage during shipping. If that's the case (did you see what i did there!), please notify me of any issue within three days of receipt of package. Books: Amazing Spider-Man #4 CGC 3.5 C/OW: $1,375 [scroll to end] Amazing Spider-Man #5 CGC 5.5 OW/W: $1,750 [scroll to end] Amazing Spider-Man #13 CGC 3.0 OW: $850 [scroll to end] Amazing Spider-Man #22 CGC 2.5 OW/W: $75 Amazing Spider-Man #26 CGC 4.0Q OW/W (just coupon missing page 15): $100 Amazing Spider-Man #28 CGC 3.5 OW/W: $240 Amazing Spider-Man #29 CGC 1.5 OW/W: $90 Amazing Spider-Man #32 CGC 4.0 OW/W: $100 Amazing Spider-Man #44 CGC 4.5 OW/W: $120 Amazing Spider-Man #46 CGC 3.0 OW/W: $175 Amazing Spider-Man #51 CGC 4.5 OW/W: $175 Amazing Spider-Man #194 CGC 3.5 OW/W: $125 Amazing Spider-Man #212 CGC 9.0 W: $100

I have a Wambi Jungle Boy #3 (Fiction House, Spring 1943) with the cursive Eldon, so perhaps he gave up the blocky signature before that.

Flash #123 has always been a huge key, but IMO, surprisingly undervalued since the multiverse first began having success on the big screen years ago. It's the 1st comic to suggest the multiverse! It's not often that you can pin a transition of such magnitude on a single book ala Dective Comics #38 (first sidekick, which took the GA by storm).

So many to choose from as per above, but I would add Showcase #4 to the mix for its uniquely classic look. It (and others like Silver Surfer #4 and IH#1 and AF#15) ALWAYS catch my eye wherever I see it. But after two weeks of mulling it over, it's Incredible Hulk #1 for me because the cover is truly transcendent! It not only reflects the seismic transition from Atlas's monsters to Marvel's superheroes, but also classically depicts both the Hulk's split personality and the emergence of the Silver Age's first anti-hero! A cover befitting the SA's Mount Rushmore.

JUN 11th 1963 is the official on sale date for both ASM#4 and Strange Tales Annual #2, so they tie for 5th appearance of Spidey.

Interesting topic! If this counts, it looks like sight gags might have been part of early comic books since the get-go, or at least our first comic book, which kicked off the Victorian Age. The Adventures of Mr. Obadiah Oldbuck was originally published in French in 1828 by Swiss caricaturist Rodolphe Töpffer, and here is p27 of the first English edition published by Tilt & Bogues (London: 1841): In the first panel, the main action--as described in the short caption below it--relates to the discovery of the love letter, but there is something curious/humorous going on with the dog and rats in the background. This book arguably was a "first" in various ways, and it's cool to see how certain aspects continued/evolved over the centuries now.

Yeah, the Batman 1 in 1.8 also seemingly took a hit, selling today for $126K compared to $180K in April 2022 (unless that 180K was out there). Lucky buyer i think. Oh well. Some of the GA books up this point (3:25pm EST) have also receded a bit (or went for less than expected if no recent sales). But others still chugging along, like that Eagle #1 in 9.6, which sold (the same book, actually) for a bit more than just this past November. Overall, is it same old same old? Hopefully someone provides an overview on the whole session!

Hey. Hope you're having a good new year! You make intersting points, but I don't think the OP was asking for an estimate of what his SS books would fetch if sold to a boardie. Presumably, he asked for estimates for the value of his SS books in general. What little data there is (including a sale that is almost right on point for the Tec76) suggests his books ought to fetch significant premiums. Not surprising. This is how it is in the rest of the collectible world. Even decades after the fact, signed BOOKS (especially 1st editions), sports gear (balls, jerseys, bats, gloves, sneakers, etc), record albums, photos, trading cards, and on and on will command premiums. And that is true whether or not the buyer had witnessed the signature in person, or whether or not the item was ever owned/used by the signor. It's been like that for generations. And you are definitely lucky to have gotten stuff signed in your presence!

Happy New Year! Prior to the pandemic at least, it was pretty routine (confirmed by GPA) that certified signatures commanded significant premiums for SA books, especially keys. Whether or not that is different w/ GA (now or ever), I don't know. But I have some down time, so I'm going to refer to the actual (albeit very limited) Tec sales data around these two books, since there's either nada or just one data point for your books. But it looks promising! No SS data for Tec45 in any grade (or for Tec40 to Tec44), and a Tec45 blue 2.0 sold for $1K in Aug 2020. But a Tec46 in 1.0 SS (Robinson) sold for $3K in May 2019, which was higher than ANY grade had ever sold for (excluding the Promise book) up to and including 6.5 since early 2019, which sold for $2880 in January 2022. That looks like a huge premium to me! Tec47 in 2.0 SS (Robinson) sold for $550 in Nov 2017, which was significantly more than the $217 and $219, and the $389, that blue 2.0 sold for in 2015 and 2018, respectively. That suggests a significant premium. Tec48 in 1.5 SS (Robinson) sold for $850 in Jan 2014, when the only sales of a blue 1.8 (no 1.5 data) were $176 in 2013 and $425 in 2015, again suggesting a significant premium for the sig. Tec49 1.5 SS (Robinson) sold for $250 in May 2013, while a blue 1.5 "only" managed $556 in May 2021. No other data btwn those years, but it also suggests the SS book would have gone for much more. And a 3.5 SS (Robinson) sold for $611 in March 2010, when a blue 3.5 only managed $483 in 2012, $369 in 2013, and $606 in 2018. This, too, suggests a significant premium for the sig. Tec50 2.5 SS (Robinson) sold for $445 in Dec 2014 when a blue 2.5 sold for $325 in 2012, which doesn't really suggest anything. Now skipping to the #70s, a Tec71 2.5 SS (Robinson) sold for $2K in Nov 2016 when a blue 2.5 sold for "only" $1980 in Nov 2022! There is no other data for 2.5s, but a blue 2.0 sold for only $532 in May 2017 and $988 in August 2018. That broader look suggests a significant premium for sigs. The next Tec w/ SS data is 74. A 4.0 SS (Simon/Robinson) solf for $550 in Feb 2011, compared to $255 for a blue 4.0 in Aug 2012. Not much to go on, but it suggests a significant premium. A Tec 76 6.5 SS (Simon/Robinson) sold for $6500 in Feb 2022, much higher than the blue 5.5 (no 6.5 or 6.0 data) that sold for $2880 in Jan 2022. If all the above stuff hasn't already, this data should make you smile! @rjpb wrote "A sale of a double signed GA Detective on Heritage by Robinson and Simon in 2020 indicated no premium for the signatures," but GPA does not list any such sale (perhaps it was canceled), just the 6.5 double SS noted, which did suggest a big premium. And there's no SS data for Tec77, 78, or 79. So, overall, if I were you, I would expect both of your SS books to command a premium for the sigs. Hopefully you can approximate how much from the above. I would guess at least $2K for the Tec45 1.8 SS and at least $4.5K for the Tec76 5.5 SS. But it could be higher for both if the data suggests higher premiums and/or the books appreciated since beginning of 2022, so you need to give it some thought, including choice of venue for any sale (auction likely your best option). This is just based on the data noted, as I have no experience with GA sig series, so please digest it for yourself. Hope it helps.

Hehe @Limer Slimer. I did a double-take, too. But what's wrong with @blazingbob blazing new trails in this old thread! It was all @Big Brother's fault anyway.

@Paul © ® ™ 💙 ⚽️ Practially all of your posts the past couple months are super cool splashes? I was trying to "like" them all, but you get the picture. I LIKE THEM! ALL!

Right, I remember now. GPA fixed it that time. Does anyone know whether that was a one-off fix or whether MCS's reporting policy has changed (to report sales when made, as opposed to completely paid for)? Or is someone going to have to keep a vigilant eye again?

If you are right, then this is the second time in as many months that [CORRECTED: an auction house] has reported an older sale of a big key to GPA once time-payments were completed (w/o disclosing that the sale was actually months before), confusing the heck out of folks. In that case (I forget the book now), after a youtuber brought the weirdness to light, GPA moved the sale back to the actual sale date (like April) as opposed to the full-payment date (like October). Anyone feel like making another YT video? But maybe this time w/o slandering [the auction house]?

I meant to say "a bit more incredulous," as I see your point. But I like to see the glass half full for as long as possible.

A very healthy sale in the current market. When a WP goes for more, the PQ is often the prime suspect and rightly so. This book looks nice, too, with not much marvel chipping. Congrats to the buyer! The last 5 GPA sales of AF15 in 4.0 (including this book on Sept 21) is interesting. I added PQ info in brackets: Nov-27 $31200 2707490001 [off white] Oct-30 $36000 4076204002 [off/white to white] Sep-21 $41400 0184053001 [this book, white] 7.8% > 9/10 sale; 6.2% > 8/29 sale. Sep-10 $38400 2707490001 [off/white] Aug-29 $39000 4048269001 [off white] So second time's the charm for this book! Part of it could be that premium-fetching books sometimes need to have the right buyers participating in the sale (like sig series books, whose aficionados also tend to pay up when present at auctions). This time the right buyers participated? And a buyer (thinking long-term and/or a WP aficionado) might be happy to nab this specimen as it remained within the recent historical price range for a 4.0 (the high was $75K in Oct2021). Without that history, it would be more suprising.

The cover is completely detached? Also some heavy tanning front/back cvr, and some foxing. But the main thing could end up being the rippling and staining of both cover and interior at top suggestive of water damage throughout, in which case 2.0. Otherwise, 3.0? Nice presenting copy either way.

Those are really cool, unique covers!

Take Pep1 per PM

In relative terms, AC23 and the early SA's AC242 actually, you would expect them to be undervalued. How could they (and most DC titles) not be. DC has yet to properly showcase its main heroes (and their main villains) to achieve a JLA in the DCEU on par w/ the MCU's Avengers (in terms of box office draw). The Batman is off to a good start, but don't think that is part of the DCEU. Most Bat/Tec books are undervalued for various reasons, including 1st appearances. We could add More Fun #52 (1st Spectre). Should he not only appear on the big screen but become a regular, it could get real interesting. He was huge in the GA and did alright in the SA, even getting his own title.

A lazy Sunday morning, so I have another GA candidate relating to some of my fav SA keys. I was thinking about Avengers 1 today, itself a likely undervalued book. It has no 1st appearances, but that ensemble led the MCU to the most epic and lucrative run ever, culminating in End Game. Two more Avengers movies will likely provide an epic (and very lucrative) conclusion to MCU’s phase 6. Due to that success, rival DC has flat out said it will copy Marvel’s strategy. This will require a reboot of their own super team, the Justice League of America (BB28 being another likely undervalued book), en route to an epic conflict of its own. So how did we get here? The answer for Marvel is All Winners Comics #1 (Timely, Summer 1941), which presented Timely’s first team-of-heroes concept…the All Winners Squad. The Human Torch, Toro, Captain America, Bucky, and the Sub-Mariner are joined by the Angel and the Black Marvel. For the first time, all of Timely’s flagship characters (Subby, Cap, and Human Torch) appeared together on this classic front cover. Much like FF1 was Marvel’s answer to DC’s BB28, All Winners Comics #1 was Timely's answer to DC's World's Finest. Published shortly after Captain America Comics #1, AWC1 is just Cap’s 4th appearance, here in what many consider one of the most compelling GA Simon and Kirby Cap stories. It also includes a very early appearance of the Star Spangled Avenger. But the main thing is AWC1 was the genesis of ALL those countless Timely team ups, then and now! That should count for a lot, right? AWC1’s appeal might increase considering how expensive GA 1st appearances are, including Cap, Subby, Torch, etc. AWC1 provides an early appearance for all of them, along with their first cover together as part of the first appearance of Timely’s first super team. So AWC1, already very high in historical significance, might also be very undervalued, like other candidates in this thread.

Howdy. Does anyone have the interiors for a Haunted Thrills #5, Suspense Comics #1, America's Best Comics #18, or Gangsters Can't Win #2?

So....are you calling @lizards2 a lowballer? Them's fight'n words!