Ed Hanes

so the 'crunch' they seem to refer to...it  looks more like the comic was bent at the corner , about one inch down and one inch over, making a diagonal...could probably be pressed. The bend is not that apparent in the interior pages but is easily seen in the front and back cover. And I dont see any effect on the spine. I couldn't see it until I removed the slab

On 4/23/2024 at 7:33 PM, Topnotchman said:

If one were to quick press a cover and not the pages of the entire book. A crunch could still be present as a defect upon inspection by opening the book. 

maybe it was pressed by previous owner ...but I dont remember any 'crunch' upon receiving the raw..I did not use any pressing service  

On 4/24/2024 at 9:28 AM, marvelmaniac said:

That appears to be a Bindery Tear, however, the graders notes state "crunch top of spine through book", a Bindery Tear will not go through the entire book, judging by the definitions of bindery tear and corner crunch the "through book" statement seems to be the deciding factor here.

This is the definition of a "bindery tear".

Bindery Tear. a small horizontal rip found on the spine in a book's cover that can usually be seen from the front to the back.

NM/MT 9.8 - No bindery tears are allowed,

NM+ 9.6 - No bindery tears are allowed,

NM 9.4 - Bindery tears must be less than 1/16" on Silver Age and later books, 

There are no mentions of bindery tears from FN/VF 7.0 to NM- 9.2, the next mention of anything related is in...

FN 6.0 - There can also be a 1/4" spine split

This is the definition of a "corner crunch" from CGC. 

Corner Crunch - Corner of the book that has been impacted to cause multiple bends in both directions through the book.

 

Useful information, thanks

Perhaps I will just unslab it

You can try selling lots on MCS (for comics that cant be sold separately) at auction only...but you will not make your money back..but you will get something back. Ebay is fickle when it comes to non key raws...key raws do  well on Ebay..but non key raws dont seem to do as well as their slabbed counterparts (from my experience)..and I think this has to do with the international market. 

A couple years ago I sent in about 250 books I thought could be a 9.8 (prescreen)..about 80 came back as 9.8. With the fees associated with slabbing/ prescreen and selling..I broke even. It was fun but I did not make any money. I basically got my money back on 80 comics. I also tried just sending in about 100 comics that I thought would be in the 9's ...I got back 100 comics in a wide range of grades from 5's to 9.4's..mostly in the 7 to 8.5 ranges...I lost a lot of money on that. I thought I was fairly decent in grading but there's a reason why professional graders get paid..they have a lot of experience. So unless you are a master at grading and are very familiar with how CGC grades...most likely you will not do well, financially speaking. But, it is a fun process and you will learn a lot

I don't know..I have always been under the impression that a crunch in a book (of any type) is a default that appears as 'folded in' as if it's been impacted ..maybe a crunch is something different to CGC. I am not seeing anything but a loosened splinter at the top of the spine ..are they calling that a crunch now...maybe a 'crunch' is something that can only be seen with CGC's supposedly new high powered microscopes they use for detecting insect damage...maybe they got an electron microscope and can see at the nanometer level

anyway , I cant see any CRUNCH

130 pages into the books...love it

First episode.    very promising so far

On 3/19/2024 at 12:00 PM, shadroch said:

MCS sold you a book with a detached centerfold?  Why not simply return it?

I didnt check when I got it..I put my trust in them 

It was also number 52..no mention of cover oxidation when I bought it

and number 123 loose at staple ..which I dont remember seeing but that can be very subjective

If I do buy from them again I will make sure to check everything 

On 3/15/2024 at 8:46 AM, JollyComics said:

All unwanted books of mine were sold to MCS. I didn't care about them if the big differences in grading. Only 10% of my grades were matched (some grades were better than mine).

Any valuable books were undergraded severely by MCS were returned back to me rather than selling them cheap to MCS.

I always graded all unwanted books at GD.  They will give them the better grades by 2 to 4 points.

The difference here being... the grades that I offered were on the same books/same grades that MCS sold me just a couple months before. Any comics I send to them that I bought elsewhere I just trust their grading as I don't know otherwise. The main problem here is not the downgrading, it's the oversight of faults that they should have seen before they sold the first time around..fairly major faults that I have become accustomed to seeing them.. document before I buy. For example, I would not have bought issue 60 knowing it had a detached centerfold.

Of course Ebay would say it doesn't violate their policy...they make money off fraudulent items as well as contraband, so why would they care,,they are incredibly corrupt

On 3/14/2024 at 11:34 AM, Black_Adam said:

That has also been my experience with MCS. Except most of the comics I've returned have never been out of the comics mylars they were shipped to me in and still graded lower when returned to MCS. As I 100% trust MCS, I've always attributed the discrepancy to tighter grading. I usually end up asking MCS to send the comics to CGC to be graded and consign them when they are returned with (almost always) higher grades than MCS assigned them.

Yeah, I am going to end up doing that myself..I usually never send in silver/bronze raws to MCS ..had a weak moment

On 3/14/2024 at 11:07 AM, Dr. Balls said:

That could be frustrating, but also: One man's FN- is another man's VG+

Perhaps the variance is just in who's grading? The Spidey #123 must have been missed by them the first time around?

I understand the variance in giving specific grades WRT different people but to miss a detached centerfold , cover oxidation, and loose cover seems odd..especially since these are commonly listed faults on MCS grading (implies that the graders are especially trained in spotting these faults)...plus from what I have been told by MCS, they are supposed to be rechecked before final listing

I have been buying/selling from MCS for five years now and for the most part have been very happy but something just happened that is making me question using them again

I bought all of these in the past year from MCS. When I get them I open them up to check their condition and then put back in the bag and place them in my boxes. 

Last week I sent these back to sell (I bought all of these MCS). When I bought these from MCS, none of them had the faults that are stated now (and MCS did not state these faults) and my grading was based on their previous grading

 I asked MCS to return them

UGH, first CGC let me down .. now, MCS

4.5

On 2/22/2024 at 11:50 AM, skillzdadirecta said:

Those sales are for different versions of the same book. I'm taking into account the 2021 Covid bump, but the previous sale for a 9.6 version of the book I'm talking about was several years prior to that. There aren't a lot of sales for this book because there aren't a lot of copies of this book out there. There's a 9.2 of this version of the book on sale on Mycomicshop for $64.00 right now.

oh I see..my bad...GPA comics has one sale of it for 200 in Jan, 2023

last sale on GPA comics was 45. You cant necessarily project FMV from sales years ago. 

This is the 'trendline' for sales of this issue..the rise in 2021 was due to the pandemic , in which most collectibles rose in price due to overinflated demand. But like most comics the bubble burst as the pandemic ended. If you go to gocollect, you can see an auction for 100 in sept 2023 and then an auction for 45 in dec 2023 (not a good sign) If you follow a statiscal trendline from 2021 and on (a downward sloping line) ..you probably have your asking price between 50 and 75 ...but you can ask anything you want and go into negotation..just dont be surprised if someone wont pay more than 50 for it.

well, at least it will be streaming soon...I will wait till it's free on some platform though

sold

closed 

closed

Yep...out of fear of being redundant...I will not say .."of course, employee theft ..imagine that"

175.00 plus shipping. Paypal is fine with me 

On 1/30/2024 at 3:49 AM, The Lions Den said:

Personally, I enjoy actually being able to peruse the books in my collection whenever I want---enjoying the stories, admiring the artwork, checking the books for flaws, etc. For me, that's the reason I got into this hobby in the first place.

Others may disagree, but I've found that spending all my time and resources on other aspects of the hobby often lead to more headaches than happiness...  

agreed...slabs take up a lot of space too

In the past week I decided to unslab over 20 of my books ..my silver age ASM as well as some signed copies of moderns. I dont know what to say..I have become tired of looking at the plastic holders...but ones that I dont feel comfortable unslabbing I sent off to be sold...these are mostly 9.8's that are signed. I unslabbed a few signed SS CGC because they were lesser grades. On one of them was ASM 55 (Pat Gleason cover white drawing over black background). It got a 9.4 because CGC said it had a water stain on the cover...there is no water stain..it's just how the white ink is juxtaposed over the black ink appearing like raised surfaces (similar to what water can do to paper)..especially dead center (I have other copies that have the exact same effect).... Just one more insult added to injury. I used to really believe in this company ( at one time I had hundreds of slabs)..oh, well, I will live