Ed Hanes

Just another comic book movie to wait until it streams for free

I am not sure how much the signature hit on the grade

Here are the grader's notes

dents front cover
creasing to cover
moderate finger bends on cover
spine stress lines to cover

the creasing to cover will be a major hit and with the dents to the cover  I could see it being a 7.0 no matter the sig or not

On 10/31/2022 at 11:44 AM, cigars&comix said:

do i need a subscription to view the gpa graphs? ive never used the site..

yeah, it's ten dollars a month..but worth every penny

The market 'reset' as they say...I have noticed some leveling out and some small rebounds on lesser keys ...the major keys exploded during the pandemic, so they have a harder fall..but they seem to be leveling off. I saw a ASM 1 (CGC 2.0) auction off at 7400 the other day on Comic Link...down 30- 40 % from peak.,,but at the level it should reasonably be, given normal growth

A good observation tool is to look at the GPA graphs and draw a curve/line from prepandemic to now..you will still find an increase that seems to fit 3 years of growth, based on trendlines previous to pandemic

If you bought a major key during the pandemic ...you will have to wait awhile to get your investment back

Do you want them to be graded by CGC?  if so, then you will want to submit them for pressing/cleaning AND grading. If you submit them ONLY

for cleaning/pressing..CGC will not assume you also want grading, and yes, they will return them back to you.

when they say put them in order , they are referring to orders with lots of books..like for prescreens (25 minimum) or people who send a lot more books than just 3..some people send 100's of books at a time

This company is so screwed up with updating their changes. Had to go thru 3 phone calls to get them to charge the correct credit card. Then, after email exchanges and updating address changes on my return addresses (on website) they still cant get it right, they still deliver to an old address. Oh BTW, I actually had someone in accounting tell me their system is outdated and insufficient..so they are very much aware of their problems....maybe I should say they are too cheap (man, I wish I could use cuss words)

only one way to find out

On 10/14/2022 at 1:43 PM, Pantodude said:

Before you knock comics as recession safe-havens, we need to make sure we are focusing on the correct gains.  Of course, easier to do with a longer-term perspective.  FF48 and FF49 have given back some of the (in hindsight at least partially speculative, fiscal-excess induced) gain since the pandemic, like a lot of asset classes.  But unlike the stock market (be it S&P 500, Dow, and even Nasdaq), SA, BA and even CA keys are still way up from their 2020 averages.  Because someone referenced them, let's look at FF48 and FF49, which didn't start spiking unitl Sept/Oct 2020. 

This discussion must exclude books bought post-August 2020, which might not fare as well in relative terms, because I am trying to exclude pandemic-related shenanigans.  I don't think all of the post-August 2020 gains are suspect, but whatever proportion that is would muddy this discussion, so let's keep it simple.  

FF48 in 6.0 sold this month for $2880 and the 90-day avg is $3,139 (5 sales), i.e., still an 83% gain from the 2020 avg of $1718 (43 sales). In case you are wondering, the pre-spike 6.0 FF48 average on 8/31/20 was $1706.  

FF49 in 6.0 sold this month for $1625 and the 90-day avg is $1763, i.e., still a 143% gain from the 2020 avg of $727.  ($800 pre-spike 6.0 FF49 avg on 8/31/20).

Compare that to the stock indices.  Since mid-2019, the approximate gains from the S&P500, Dow, and Nasdaq have been 20%, 10%, and 35%, respectively.  

So, to be fair to the recession-proof [key] comics hypothesis, we should at least wait until prices dip (if ever) to the 2020 averages, perhaps adjusted through 2022 assuming some hype-free, organic growth rate.  This would likely exclude the impact of any wacky spending since then.  For the sake of argument, let's say a 6.0 FF48 and 6.0 FF49 would have gone from $1706 to $1850 today, and $800 to $865 today, respectively (an organic-like 8% increase since Aug2020).  Based on the 6.0 FF48's 90-day avg of $3,139 and the 6.0 FF49's 90-day avg of $1763, these books remain way above the hype-free estimates for 2022.   

Time will tell whether or not these books are recession-proof, but so far, and despite corrections to date due to pandemic shenanigans or recession fears (likely both), they are certainly looking better than the main stock indices since 2020, and way better than THE traditional haven of gold, which is at $1650/oz today compared to about $1890/oz on 8/31/20.  

Yes, FF 48 and 49 are still issues that command a great deal of attention..great covers too. I don't think the response to my post was necessarily about these prime keys..but more about newer comics, variants and the like..such as Negan Lives or some of the Gwenom v Carnage variants. Everything went crazy during the pandemic and that was probably moreso to do with money burning holes in peoples pockets because they weren't traveling or they were just bored, although I am sure speculation was there too. I went on a X-men run during the pandemic (I was bored) only to realize I just don't like X-men covers (except 101) and sold them back for a loss to buy better ASM Romita copies

On 10/14/2022 at 11:05 AM, D2 said:

@Ed Hanes
Whoever said comic books were recession proof, clearly were basing their words on their own opinions, and not actual market data. 
 

Partly why I truly hate comic book influencers. I didn’t care one way or another before, but this past year, I hate them. 
 

I do. I genuinely hate them. They pass misinformation, typically to hype their own collections. They give false expectations to legions of people that follow their words. They have no care whatsoever about the true enthusiast at all. 
 

Sounds like a religion! No wonder I hate them. 

I hear ya

Fantastic Four 48 and 49 are taking a huge hit..I was gonna sell mine but may wait awhile...poor Galactus..gets no respect

On 10/13/2022 at 9:50 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

You're saying that your completed order was shipped from CGC to you, but Returned to Sender, correct?

yes

SO, there was a mixup in delivery and my order was returned to CGC..that was 9 days ago ..received by 'Dan at the front desk' on October 4th (according to UPS)..but customer service has no record of it. Has anyone else dealt with this? 

On 10/11/2022 at 5:20 PM, kav said:

If congress deemed internet sites were a public square this could change though.  For now you are correct.

Facebook and Twitter could be deemed a public square..I have a really hard time seeing how a payment service like paypal would be deemed a public square

On 10/10/2022 at 4:24 PM, IllusionEntity said:

Well arguably, if I post a 9.8 on this forum and all of the members are telling me its not even a 9.8.. Are they even doing that job?

I was being sarcastic 

Anyway, welcome to the club of people who feel CGC has a QC problem ..it's a big club

On 10/10/2022 at 3:56 PM, IllusionEntity said:

I'm kind of confused really, because there are so many people torn on this subject. 

Some are saying apart from this, the book is a 9.8 all day long. "Negligible handling or manufacturing" defects is what is listed under the 9.8 criteria? I've only a few minutes ago seen a Secret Wars #8 on eBay in a 9.8 with a horrible misswrap.  

Being only a few months into this hobby, the amount of contradictory information surrounding one topic is very confusing. Would be awesome if a CGC grader could chime in!

If a CGC grader chimed in every time there was an issue with a slab...they wouldn't have time to do their job grading

On 10/6/2022 at 4:43 PM, fastballspecial said:

My brother got me watching Orphan Black. I enjoyed it, but it got tiresome I thought I never finished it.

 

That's how I felt about Walking Dead..and it's not over yet

On 10/6/2022 at 4:14 PM, fastballspecial said:

I thought the episode was great from start to finish. I loved the chemistry with DD. 

The 4th wall parts were great. This episode hit on all cylinders and made me laugh 
for the first time in this show.

 

I was neutral at first with the show but it grew on me...found myself laughing more with each episode. This last episode worked really well. Now I am interested in Tatiana's previous work, especially Orphan Black 

On 10/6/2022 at 3:43 PM, Bosco685 said:

Under close parental supervision - naturally!

naturally

On 10/6/2022 at 3:40 PM, Bosco685 said:

Do you do kid's parties? Clowns are still acceptable with the right background checks.

at least I get invited to parties

On 10/6/2022 at 3:19 PM, Bosco685 said:

Oh were you assuming we should take a statistical sample of the overall population to determine the true central tendency of the entire audience watching She-Hulk?

Wait. I thought I was insane and you had told me you were done. Or did I get that wrong? My reading comprehension is in question, along with my ability to converse.

Well, that seems the only real recourse we have..since anecdotal information has been played out ...glad you mentioned it

On 10/6/2022 at 3:06 PM, Bosco685 said:

Uh-huh. Meanwhile the show has a deep divide with audiences what they are experiencing. Especially with young women included (unless you are pretending to speak for young women now too?).

 

But thank you for attempting to the defender of women and their portrayal in the show.

I don't understand how posting two youtube reviews is representation of anything besides the opinion of two individuals

On 10/6/2022 at 2:53 PM, Bosco685 said:

I singled you out? You posted a comment. I jokingly asked if those lawyers you noted matched the character design we are seeing in this show. You then proceeded to convey I don't know how to outline a sufficient response.

Who's trying to pretend one side is ignorant and the other side is highly advanced? I think that was you attempting to go for some 'win' there good sir. 

oh wow..you can't even recall our conversation correctly...I am done ..you're insane

On 10/6/2022 at 2:45 PM, Bosco685 said:

Wow! You really tried there. I think I was fairly clear without pretending any misinterpretation of words or lack of ability to converse.

But you go! 

Of course you think you were clear..and you are dripping with defensiveness..anyway, I am not sure why you singled me out in the first place. I just made a general statement, did not focus on anyone in particular, But I guess maybe you felt like you needed a 'win'.

On 10/6/2022 at 2:29 PM, Bosco685 said:

And they go off about taking them seriously while they party their butts off? That's what is hilarious about this interpretation.

If you read into that lawyers are not allowed to have fun and party, you missed the real point.

who is "they' and 'them' and 'they' ?