L.E. Gill

On 12/5/2023 at 3:39 PM, Cryptic Collectibles said:

Adding a couple Superboy #9 stickered variants to the list.

The first two pictures are from an eBay auction.

This next one is our eBay listing. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/166465631209

This stickered variant is fascinating to me because up until now we have only seen this particular DCU issue released as part of the slightly harder November 20 pack (brick).  I have multiple confirmed examples of 20 packs which have substituted a Newsstand barcode when a DCU printed version was not available (as opposed to a stickered version) but never a 20 pack with a stickered version.  This does lend credence to the possibility that a 2 pack containing Superboy #9 DCU may exist and I would love to see a sealed example, stickered or not.  I'd also love to see a 20 pack with an obvious stickered edition included.  Please share your 2 pack and 20 pack pics.

I've updated the DC Collector's Set 2 pack Image Gallery with a handful of new sets and a few date corrections I've discovered between November and now.  Nothing particularly groundbreaking just a couple of 2 packs, mostly of the non-DCU/ 2nd print variety,  You can view it here,

Possible Variants Speculation for 1995, Part 2 (April through July 1995)

Pretty sure I haven't missed anything for these months, but please tell me if I did.  I'll follow up with the last half of 1995 when I can. You can view the post on January 1995-March 1995 here.
 

5 months in 1995 to go!

On 12/10/2023 at 10:52 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

I can definitely confirm all of these with the exception of the Robin #14 NS. I do have the embossed that came in the Trokia Set. 

I would also like confirmation if anyone can confirm.  My notes say it does but typically when I have one I don't own and I make a note it exists I add a link to my source with a photo or whatever it is for future reference.  That I didn't move it into my rumored to exist tab makes me suspect I once saw a picture or something but it's possible I confused it with Robin #12 which I also do not have and that one does definitely exist.

Potential Undiscovered DCU (or other multipack UPC Variants) January - March 1995

Do you remember a few years ago back in this very same forum we thought we were done?  We thought we had found ALL the possible DCUs.  We were wrong.  They are still out there.

Ever since I posted two different sets of possible/potential multipacks of DCU or other UPC variant editions for 1996, I’ve been thinking a lot about 1995 as well.  Since my initial speculation posts here on the forums. at least a couple of my potential/ undiscovered variants for 1996 have been discovered and proven to exist (such as Batman and Robin Adventures# 11 Bat Silhouette UPC, and  Detective Comics #693).  If you find something on my speculation list(s) and want to sell it, please give me a first shot at it!

As before, I am primarily concentrating on those titles or issues that have at least one “known” DCU or multipack variant.  Now that we know of the existence of several Milestone/Worlds Collide issues I will include those series for your consideration, even if a Worlds Collide crossover issue for that title has not been confirmed. 

Dates are based upon cover date, not publication date, which usually runs 2 months prior to the cover date.

More to come after I double check all my source material.

On 12/10/2023 at 10:33 PM, Warlord said:

Per Revat's list, there are two versions of each of the following. I'm trying to confirm if the two versions are the deluxe/embossed and the regular/non-embossed issues.

Let me know if you can confirm that this is true for the issues in bold - do each exist in both embossed and non-embossed DC Universe versions?

• Batman #515 - both deluxe/embossed and regular versions per Kirk
• Batman #531 - deluxe/embossed and regular version? 
• Detective #682 - deluxe/embossed and regular version? 
• Flash #100 - deluxe/embossed and regular version?
• Green Lantern #81 - deluxe/embossed and regular version? 
• Robin #14 - deluxe/embossed? 
• Superman: The Wedding Album #1 - both deluxe/embossed and regular versions per OWK

Versus my initial post, I've corrected Batman #682 to be Detective #682.  I've struck Batman #535 from this summary.  For Batman #535, Kirk's comment and Revat's list indicates only one version.

• Batman #515 DCU - Both a Deluxe & Non-Deluxe Version exists (one is embossed other is not)
• Batman #531 - Both a Deluxe & Non Deluxe Version Exists (I think both have glow in the dark features, one has Batman & Deadman back-to-back and the other looks more like they are fighting/facing each other)
• Detective #682 - Both a Deluxe & Non Deluxe Version Exists (one is embossed/ other is a DCU of the 'Newsstand issue')
• Flash #100 - Both a Deluxe & Non Deluxe Version Exists (one is foiled/ other is a DCU of the 'Newsstand issue')
• Green Lantern #81 - Both a Deluxe & Non Deluxe Version Exists (one is embossed/ other is a DCU of the 'Newsstand issue')
• Robin #14 - Both a Deluxe & Non Deluxe Version Probably Exists (one is embossed (DEFINITELY EXISTS)/ other is a DCU of the 'Newsstand issue' and it is on my list but I am trying to confirm)
• Superman: The Wedding Album #1 - Both a Deluxe & Non Deluxe Version Exists (one is the non-deluxe DCU that show Superman carrying Lois and the other is an all white cover with DCU logo on the back)

Physically own all of the above except Flash #100 'Non-Deluxe/Newsstand" DCU and Robin #14 Newsstand DCU.

On 12/9/2023 at 5:17 AM, archivist said:

 

Since up to now there wasn't a picture existing of Impulse #3, we only had the entry in Jerome's list. Now this entry is confirmed with a picture:

Now the only book without proof to exist is Impulse #10. If somebody can shed some light how this issue made it into the listing I would be very grateful !

Last known source of Impulse #10 DCU existing is from a Comic Invest article circa 2017.  That said, the same article claimed both Azrael #22 and Batman: Shadow of the Bat #38 existed as well (rare), and we have finally gotten some confirmation that these two issues do indeed exist.  When I started getting back into and serious about DCUs I was almost positive I owned a copy of Impulse #10 DCU (but it turned out to be a Newsstand copy, alas).  I do still believe this one is possible based upon the other 'Dead Heat' storyline issues such as Flash #109-#110 which exist but are relatively hard to find (I personally find #110 harder than #109).

On 12/10/2023 at 5:53 PM, Dj FunSize said:

I just recently picked up Batman Adventures #32 at my local comic book store. I can’t find any mention of it online or sale/sold listing of this issue

I've had this one on my unofficial watch for list for a while (and if anyone has a copy for sale would be interested).  I also have Batman Adventures #35 on my rumored to exist list, and I feel like visually the covers are similar enough that one could have been confused for the other.  Can anyone confirm the existence of Batman Adventures #35?  We know that BA #33 DCU exists (coincidentally released in the same "Best of '95" set that contained Impulse #3 that @archivist just posted a great picture of).  We also know BA #36 DCU exists.  We should probably all be on the lookout for a BA#34 DCU just in case.

On 7/10/2023 at 3:35 AM, Gaard said:

I think the use of the word "Form" is what causes the confusion.

Agreed.  My biggest concern is when contemplating sending a submission off to an independent pressing company along with your submission invoice under your CGC account and it getting charged a good while before your books would ever get sent in to CGC.  I've never actually done it before but I had been considering it for a few books.

On 7/5/2023 at 7:22 AM, MattM CS said:

Hello @L.E. Gill,

I have pasted the line I believe you are referring to below. This means when we receive your submission form at our office and it has been scanned into the system then we may charge. AKA: after the submission shows up on your submission tracking page we will be able to charge. There has been some confusion regarding when we will charge. Many customers in the past have assumed this was not done until the submissions have been graded or completed entirely. This is not the case. I hope this helps! Let us know if you have any other questions. 

Thank you, that does clarify it a lot more.  When it shows up in submission tracking is completely reasonable and logical to me!

On 7/3/2023 at 9:21 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Seems about time to add another.  Unfortunately I did find this one after it sold and technically this will be for the Logo thread as it isn't a DCU but I wanted to share it here as well since it is a multi pack variant 

Batman & Robin Adventures #11

Awesome, I posted about this one a while back.  I found 2 copies back then, but does this make a third?  Any idea how it was sold?

When everyone got logged out this week and had to accept terms of service, etc. I wanted to get clarification on one point.  The terms made it sound that your credit card will now be billed upon submitting your invoice online, as opposed to when the order is officially received by CGC and charged when the actual work of pressing and/or grading commences.  Can I get a confirmation on if that is the case moving forward, or am I reading it wrong?

Thanks!

On 6/23/2023 at 2:24 PM, Cpt Kirk said:

I would think you could get approx $500 for the pack that has Batman Adv 14 if that comic book looks to be in NM.   Maybe more, but now there's hundreds of that comic book for sale, so people really don't need the pack to get a really nice copy.   But having it in the sealed pack probably makes it a little more special.   If I am out of touch with the actual selling price of a nice copy of Batman Adv 14, someone please chime in.

Are you thinking about BA #12?  Because the September 1993 brick is the one with BA #12 in it.  Seems like recent high sales were in the $450-$800 range for a sealed on on eBay but occasionally someone lists one that doesn't know what they have and they get scooped up for cheap.  I managed to score a sealed brick for $85 and I know at least one got sold in February for less than $100 that I missed.

On 6/23/2023 at 9:37 AM, Bird said:

I came across a 20 pack for the first time in the wild the other day, thanks to this thread for some info. It was the pack with Batman Adv 14 in it. Whats a decent price for it/these? It was solid as a true brick! I was a bit stunned at that.

I think it depends on the month how much they tend to go for.  I personally would pay a lot more for a November 1994 than a July 1994, for example, just because it's one I don't have sealed and it seems to not come up for sale as often.  The November 1993 brick you are talking about is the first brick chronologically to contain any multipack variants in the form of a handful of the DC Bullet UPCs-- there are no DC Universe UPCs in that one  I think that one has come up for sale at least 2 times on eBay in the last year, and went for around $50-75.  I think if you can pick up a pack for $35 and under that has stuff you want in it you are probably getting a good deal.  Upper range prices seem to be in the $200 range for bricks that have more desirable issues in them.

Here's the contents of the one you are talking about (cut in case the lure of the unknown means you don't want spoilers):

For anyone sending in DCUs/Zero Hour Logo books to be graded that don't pop up in the submission screen automatically and you have to manually add them-- most likely, they will not be correctly labeled unless you take a little extra action.  As soon as your submission shows up in the submission tracker, double check to see which books are correctly marked as Multi-Pack Editions, and then send an email to submissions@cgc.com politely listing out the errors and request they be given to the graders.  For me it was 100% correlated to which ones were already in the database versus ones I manually added. I also referenced the news release from September 2022 from CGC in my email.  They responded quickly and got it 100% resolved.  I think once more Multi-Packs are in their database it will become less and less an issue as the ones that were already available as multipacks came out correctly without my email.

The good news is doing that meant all the Zero Hour books I sent in my last submission are now labeled, no mechanical error returns necessary.  The bad news is whoever graded them hammered the entire batch of 50 comics I sent, lol.   I am not really complaining, it was just a lot of 9.6s or 9.2s mostly.  I still had a fair number of 9.8s but I am going to be interested to look more closely at some to see if I can figure out the reasoning because not a grader's note in the entire lot and a couple of the 9.2s are bewildering me.  Generally I approve of strict grading, so.... 

A few of the submissions: 

https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/4271497002/ Zero Hour #2 Zero Hour Logo

https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/4271497003/ Zero Hour #3 Zero Hour Logo

https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/4271497005/ Guy Gardner: Warrior #0 Zero Hour Logo

https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/4271497006/ Justice League America  #0 Zero Hour Logo

https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/4271497007/ Wonder Woman #0 Zero Hour Logo

On 6/8/2023 at 9:01 PM, Cpt Kirk said:

Yup!   That Superman 117 is rare.   There was a time when thought it was only a myth that it existed.

Yes, it's definitely one you don't see as often in the wild, though it's funny how my definition of rare changes once I have a copy of something!  By default, all the issues I still need are rarer than Superman 117 now.   

I do have an extra to trade if anyone finds something special off my want list. 

On 6/6/2023 at 9:36 PM, Cpt Kirk said:

First let me say.... .    Second, let me say that whenever I see a "wall" like this I always sweat a little bit thinking that someone found another one that I need but don't have... lol.

Lol!  I think you mostly need to worry about that when @onlyweaknesskryptonite posts, but you never know!  I managed to send a large batch of books before CGC hiked their prices, and they are still coming back.  Most weren't DCUs (I have to fund this DCU obsession somehow....) but I should have a few more good ones to post about.   I also sent some promising Zero Hour UPCs in, though I am not sure if they will be labeled or not.  

On 5/30/2023 at 8:37 PM, Michael Browning said:

I picked these up today. I sold off all my DCU variants a few weeks ago and hadn’t intended on buying anymore. Anybody need them?

I'd love to buy Superboy #24 from you.  I have a sealed copy courtesy of @onlyweaknesskryptonite but would like to buy this one. PM me with your ask?

On 5/30/2023 at 7:11 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Yeah.. I definitely missed out on those Impulse as well. 

I was just as bummed about seeing these after the fact. I would gladly double someone's purchase if they would like to sell these. 

You have killed me dead.  Work has been so busy this month I cannot believe I missed all of these.  I usually check eBay daily but have slacked off.  On the upside, it's excellent evidence that HOLY #$%^&*() Azrael #22 DCU does exist.