Primetime

good to see and hear your stories Russ! Nice haul, but...where's your 27?

Hit me again.....

you'll have time as soon as the bug critters are done with

agreed, I have yet to see any price pull back on Batman covered, pre robin Tecs...even the non bat covered tecs seem to be consistent, though not 100% in the upward direction... FMV there is a definitive answer (well, kind of) grade for grade, Tec 29 and 31 sell almost neck and neck, followed by Tec 35, followed by tec 33, followed by 36 and then 37 (I left non bat covers out)... FMV conclusion would seem to point to 31 as probably "winning" the race, but 29 is almost interchangable at this point I personally like the combination of 2nd bat cover, and scarcity, to propel tec 29 over tec 31 to the finish line...so there is my definitive answer... I rank bat covers, value wise as : 27,29,31,35,33,36,37... (thumbs u since many many of these books sell privately, GPA will never fully capture the market... I will be submitting a lot of sales of tec 27,29,31,33,35, 36 and 37 (as well as others) to GPA, and that will help clear the picture up...maybe I am fortunate to have a lot of sales info the public doesn't but, if you review gpa, tec 31 is the winner, followed by 29, then 35, then 33 Imran has posted and echos my sentiment...I believe 1koko and Andre and Primetime and Ronaldo, etc are well qualified to comment (as having put the entire run together)... I think folks on the boards know that I have bought and sold more pre robin tecs than any active member of the boards (and no I don't count metro, heritage , clink , they have all sold more than me, but I don't consider them "active" posters like most of us) 31 is very cover driven, 29 is scarcity and cover driven, 35 is scarcity, cover AND what only primetime has pointed out, SPLASH page driven (the best bat splash page there is, imo)... now, that said, much like the 33's origin story, the 35 splash is only a factor as far as folks "know" it is there, but can't see it when I figure put my run together, you know the issue I bought first... tec 33...not because I thought it was the best or whatever (I do love it), but because it was the most readily available copy in the market (and still is today)... there is more supply at current prices than demand for 33, when compared to the other "3"... Sorry Rick, where's 28 in all of this? I only analyzed bat covers... clearly tec 28 is the toughest to find both unrestored and even restored, and sells for multiples of guide (thumbs u All the talk in this thread about Tec 33 being underpriced as it is the origin, the 28 needs more love, after all it IS the second appearance of Batman and is rare, especially unrestored. I appreciate the fact it is not a Batman cover, but in terms of cultural significance, the second appearance of a major character like Batman should make it the the most important issue after Tec 27. I have to mention that it has a pretty cool story as well. very true, but the comic market has never reflected that...just like today. I'm sure kids dropped the dimes on the 27, skipped the 28, and bought again when they saw the 29 on the stands (thumbs u

never saw that one before (thumbs u

I think Kirby's Captain America is one of the single greatest acchievements of the Golden Age. I guess that's what makes horse races. I'm going to have to agree with Adamstrange on this one. S&K Cap never really did much for me to be honest. Once again we agree. The first 20 issues of Cap do so little for me Jim I only like 1-4...16 is ok as well..the later Schomburg covers are much more appealing like 26-33 (except 32 is Shores I believe.)

I think Kirby's Captain America is one of the single greatest acchievements of the Golden Age. I guess that's what makes horse races. I'm going to have to agree with Adamstrange on this one. S&K Cap never really did much for me to be honest. yep, Schomburg is the Cap king for sure...He was doing so many covers in that time that he sometimes had others finish cover jobs...I am thinking covers like USA 6 and 7, although signed Schomburg on the cover, may not have been is work judging the way Cap is drawn (elongated face and body)...All Select 1/2 and Cap 33 show Cap in a true Schomburg pose/style IMO..

(thumbs u THE BEST Cap cover. Did you score that from Laterbauch? 2nd best cap cover How about best Sub-Mariner cover? West Marvel Mystery 9 hands down...that is the "Action 1" of Subby covers IMO Subby 32 is utlimate Subby cover, drawn by the man who created him. Marvel 9 is an Everett/Schomburg cover (thumbs u GDC say Everett/Schomburg and AtlasTales say Schomburg all the way. I do see some Everett-ish elements but it would be very unusual for Schomburg to ink someone else's work -- I don't recall any other situation like that but perhaps someone here knows of one. In any event, the inking is so heavy that it is not my favorite Schomburg Subby as it, and the scene are a bit "stiff." For comparison here's the inside splash and a later 1960s b&w piece. Gerber, Overstreet and CGC tend to differ on the cover artist for Marvel 9 as well...I believe Gerber credits Everett and Overstreet Schomburg...CGC states cover by Everett/Schomburg (pencils/inks).

(thumbs u THE BEST Cap cover. Did you score that from Laterbauch? 2nd best cap cover How about best Sub-Mariner cover? West Marvel Mystery 9 hands down...that is the "Action 1" of Subby covers IMO Subby 32 is utlimate Subby cover, drawn by the man who created him. Marvel 9 is an Everett/Schomburg cover (thumbs u GDC say Everett/Schomburg and AtlasTales say Schomburg all the way. I do see some Everett-ish elements but it would be very unusual for Schomburg to ink someone else's work -- I don't recall any other situation like that but perhaps someone here knows of one. In any event, the inking is so heavy that it is not my favorite Schomburg Subby as it, and the scene are a bit "stiff." For comparison here's the inside splash and a later 1960s b&w piece. For Captain America or Torchy, I'll take Schomburg over Simon&Kirby or Burgos but with Subby it's always and only Everett. i was simply stating Marvel 9 as being the best Subby cover regardless of artist. Everett is by far the BEST Subby artist and Schomburg for Torch/Cap for sure.

yep. should be up there with FF5.

(thumbs u THE BEST Cap cover. Did you score that from Laterbauch? 2nd best cap cover How about best Sub-Mariner cover? West Marvel Mystery 9 hands down...that is the "Action 1" of Subby covers IMO Actually that would be Torch #8, which is actually the superior image on a lessor title Jim ah yes, but the Torch is drawn more imposing on that one. Subby is the main focus on Marvel 9..plus, I do love Torch 8 as it's more of an "in your face" cover, but I really hate that anti-flame gun Subby is holding..kind of lame when you have the strength to press 85 tons

(thumbs u THE BEST Cap cover. Did you score that from Laterbauch? 2nd best cap cover How about best Sub-Mariner cover? West Marvel Mystery 9 hands down...that is the "Action 1" of Subby covers IMO Subby 32 is utlimate Subby cover, drawn by the man who created him. Marvel 9 is an Everett/Schomburg cover (thumbs u

(thumbs u THE BEST Cap cover. Did you score that from Laterbauch? 2nd best cap cover How about best Sub-Mariner cover? West Marvel Mystery 9 hands down...that is the "Action 1" of Subby covers IMO

(thumbs u THE BEST Cap cover. Did you score that from Laterbauch? 2nd best cap cover All Select 2? yep, AS 1 and 2...Gator and me are flip/flop on this one...the 2 is cool though--big gun barrel blazing....the AS 1 character poses are just too cool by a tad.

I solda 9.0 ow/w #6 for $2500 about 4 years ago..now 9.0s are going $5k+ on eBay?

If anyone has any early FFs with full date stamps on the FCs (month/day/year) for sale, send me a PM. (thumbs u

never noticed that..it's like Where's Waldo?

and an arrival month/day penciled in neatly on the FC to boot

(thumbs u THE BEST Cap cover. Did you score that from Laterbauch?

Except for the struck section, I agree completely +1 Bill Ben coming to San Diego this month Bill? We'll always have last year....

naturally, 28's value probably gives them all a run for their money grade for grade, but that is a different discussion my personal preference is 29...I like it MUCH better than 31...but the market seems to have determined that 31 is the "most" desirable tec comic (outside of 27, which due to price reasons, doesn't often get comparisons)...therefore, personal preference aside, I have to concede that 31 is "better" , even though to me, 29 blows it away...I assume I am in the minority on this, but that is irrelevant no way. 29 blows a 38 away. that's truth. (thumbs u In fact 33 and 38 are in the same boat---priced higher than 29, 31, and 35--but FMV is much much lower. read the post first...who mentioned anything about a 38 I was just using 29 and 38 to compare what "blowing away" was the better ex than 29 and 31 which aren't miles away in caliber IMO--31 slightly better cover, 29 better story. well, thank goodness yours is one opinion that "doesn't" count go Miami (FL)! All about the "U" I love me some Frank Gore, Willis McGahee, Clinton Portis, Edgerrin James, Warren Sapp, Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Sean Taylor... How about my neighbor, ole Danny Stubbs? yah, he had a few good years out here in SF

naturally, 28's value probably gives them all a run for their money grade for grade, but that is a different discussion my personal preference is 29...I like it MUCH better than 31...but the market seems to have determined that 31 is the "most" desirable tec comic (outside of 27, which due to price reasons, doesn't often get comparisons)...therefore, personal preference aside, I have to concede that 31 is "better" , even though to me, 29 blows it away...I assume I am in the minority on this, but that is irrelevant no way. 29 blows a 38 away. that's truth. (thumbs u In fact 33 and 38 are in the same boat---priced higher than 29, 31, and 35--but FMV is much much lower. read the post first...who mentioned anything about a 38 I was just using 29 and 38 to compare what "blowing away" was the better ex than 29 and 31 which aren't miles away in caliber IMO--31 slightly better cover, 29 better story. well, thank goodness yours is one opinion that "doesn't" count go Miami (FL)! All about the "U" I love me some Frank Gore, Willis McGahee, Clinton Portis, Edgerrin James, Warren Sapp, Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, Sean Taylor...

Except for the struck section, I agree completely +1 Bill Ben coming to San Diego this month Bill?