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50 Cent #II (1st)

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    The Unofficial Underground Comix thread...

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    Posted · Edited by 50 Cent #II (1st)

    This can be debated for years. The 1st two printings don't make sense logically which came first. I suggested to Fogel to put 1st/2nd? and then 2nd/1st? for those printings in the guide. I told him my feeling of what the 1st likely was and why I felt so and would let him decide. I believe he didn't want to confuse people with what I suggested and instead, I believe, just went with my opinion on what was likely the 1st (you can tell this version by the white line in the lower center above the pink piece of paper in the street of the cover of the "1st" and, if I recall correctly, there's a line on the "2nd print?" near the upper spine by the "F", this one has the FB#2 ad on the lower left of the IBC. I hope I'm recalling this all correctly as I haven't thought about it in a few years since I did all the research but it may be the other way around and this was one of the reasons against the order I had to consider). If you look at the 3rd printing's ads on the the IBC, you can see they look like copies and aren't very detailed, so that's a tell they aren't the 1st print. So the new guide has what I believe is correct, but it really doesn't make that much of a difference as all 3 of the first printings had rainbow variants and that's what most previously had considered where 1st prints before I came around and those fetch the most money. As I've stated before, they're rainbow VARIANTS because they are part of the same print run. They put in multiple colors on the printer to start and slowly just added more blue ink. So eventually the print run would become a blue interior only and that's why some have a large variety of different colors on the interior and some have just a green and blue or similar interior cover. I believe, years ago, you or someone else stated they bought theirs when it was first released and it matched my belief of what the 1st print was. You can see JK wasn't sure of which came out in which order from his guide. Now presented with this clear evidence, let's see if people update their info.

    The Unofficial Underground Comix thread...

    in Comic Magazines

    Posted

    Since I had a request for clarification on Big #1, thought I would post some info. here. Hopefully this forum thread will stay around (as opposed to other Underground Comix forums that have become digital dust and taking the lost information with them). First time I've opened the new guide since I received it. Was rather disappointed with the main article... Was supposed to be co-authored, but after sending the author a lot of research, he must have decided he could just incorporate some of that info. into a couple added paragraphs and then just list me as someone he "interviewed" for his article, but that's another story and with his daughter being sick I didn't bother complaining or mentioning it until now.

     

    There is a white (lower right cover with Crumb signature) box version that was considered the 1st print. This made sense to me also, but the main printer, Moriaty, who was there printing the first editions and saved examples of the covers states that the 1st print had a red box so we went with that as the 1st. Both the 1st and 2nd prints have the pages out of order (All Meat #1, Ms. Quiver, All Meat #2, All Meat #3, Artsy Fartsy on IBC).

     

    True 1st print (cover)

    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w35/IITravel/image_10.jpeg

     

    2nd print

    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w35/IITravel/image_2.jpeg

    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w35/IITravel/image_1.jpeg

    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w35/IITravel/image_8.jpeg (don't know why photobucket won't let me rotate some of these pics.)

    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w35/IITravel/image_6.jpeg

    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w35/IITravel/image_5.jpeg

     

    The 3rd and 4th prints, have the page order corrected (Ms. Quiver, All Meat #1, #2, #3, Artsy Fartsy on IBC). The JK guide states there was a green/green brown/green and a brown/brown printing of the early editions. I think that the green/green and the brown/brown might be the same printing and it changed as they added ink in the print run. This was just a guess and there could be an additional printing, but that would have changed further the number of printings that JK listed. I believe you shouldn't focus on the color of green or brown, but if there is a noticeable difference between colors (not shades). The green/green listing might be better as brown/brown? So if someone finds a new printing... Yes, I can understand how a big title like BA#1 could have been out for 40 years and nobody noticed that the pages where in different orders for different printings and they're angry that they didn't notice it themselves (especially with it not happening just once, but twice). But I came across it, so don't :sorry:

     

    4th print

    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w35/IITravel/image.jpeg

    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w35/IITravel/image_4.jpeg

    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w35/IITravel/image_7.jpeg (don't know why photobucket won't let me rotate some of these pics.)

    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w35/IITravel/image_9.jpeg

     

    I noticed that the first, of at least 4 or 5 printings, have the girl's half face on the lower left rear cover (next to the black arrow) in red like she's blushing. On the front, you can see the black is blotchy and has specks in it, not clean. If the black on the cover is completely clean, then you probably have a later print. Another tell you can check for on the front cover of the 3rd and 4th print is, if I recall correctly, the front cover red box has a yellow line under, like the red is off a bit.

     

    4th print

    http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w35/IITravel/image_3.jpeg

     

    The later printings after these early printings all have the pages reordered with the Ms. Quiver story on the last page. I think the earliest of these still has the red half face and blotchy blacks cover.

     

    Freak Brothers #1 (Moriaty also stated that the true first print of Freak Brothers #1 has a blotch of black ink that moved around on the cover). Fogel must have decided to not add this to the new guide.

     

    Also, regarding R. Crumb's Comics & Stories in the new guide is wrong. The JK lists there being 1st, 2nd, and 3rd being no cover price but with different types of paper, this was corrected in the new guide as being all the same print with different paper versions. But for the 35 cent editions, there were multiple printings of this. Probably somewhere between 4 to 6 printings (they are listed as all the same printing in the new guide). Then a 50 cent print.

     

    As for Freak Brothers #2. The biggest collector of Underground Comix on an extinct forum once eluded to the fact that there was more than one printing of the rainbow cover, that led me to research and purchase multiple copies of the rainbow cover before I came to the conclusion that the 1st 3 printings had rainbow variants. As to them being variants vs. different printings, this was easily discovered when examining different copies.

     

    Watchmen The Ultimate Cut 4k Ultra HD blu-ray...

    in The Movie Forum

    Posted · Edited by 50 Cent #II (1st)

    ...is being released next week. On Amazon.com it's currently at the retail price of $45. Walmart currently has it for the pre-order price of $35.28 if anyone is interested (would prefer Target over Walmart but it's not listed on Target.com).

     

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01GGXDR4U/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

     

    http://www.walmart.com/ip/Watchmen-The-Ultimate-Cut-The-Complete-Story-4K-Ultra-HD-Blu-ray-Digital-HD-With-UltraViolet/53942270?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42423897272&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=51320962143&veh=sem

    Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice movie thread for your reading pleasure

    in The Movie Forum

    Posted

    I was hoping that the Ultimate Edition 3D would have the Ultimate Edition with 30 additional minutes in 3D, but no. Seems the Theatrical Version is in 3D and the Ultimate Edition is not in 3D. Seems the 4K set includes the Ultimate Edition in 4K, but the Theatrical Version on regular blu-ray, so it's not advantageous to get the 4K blu-ray if you want to watch the Ultimate Edition but haven't gotten a 4K UHD player. I'm waiting for the PS4K Neo or the Panasonic UB900 players to come out around September, so I guess I'll have to wait if I want to watch the Ultimate Edition in true uncompressed HD and not on digital copy compression HD.

    The Unofficial Underground Comix thread...

    in Comic Magazines

    Posted · Edited by 50 Cent #II (1st)

    After considering it for a couple days, I don't know if I'm up for such a big project Alan. I wouldn't know where to start to be honest. That may be for someone with a bit more experience in doing something like that. Might be better if I could help if someone else took the lead on that project. Especially since you have a huge collection of tabloid/newspapers that I am not very familiar with.

     

    I know he doesn't live in this part of the country, but you might want to get an opinion from our fellow collector who took care of Howard's collection sale for his family?

    Pre-Heat Speculation Thread - Get it before it gets HOT

    in Modern Age Comic Books

    Posted

    I was going to say Aleister Arcane, but looks like I'm a little late on that one. I did manage to order a NM #1 from Milehigh during for the half off deal, yesterday it was listed at $19 (so mine's about $9.50?), today they have it listed at $38 NM. Also, most listings I saw on eBay yesterday have been sold, including the rest of the run.

     

    Odd how nobody is posting about this except you and me. You could get issues last week for $2 or less, this week the sets are $100+ and a #1 alone sold for BIN price of $60 since the Jim Carrey movie was announced. Usually you see a lot of interest when a big star announces he's going to star as a comic book character, but I suspect this being a fairly unknown series that most don't have copies and so they don't want to post until they find a set for themselves?

    The Unofficial Underground Comix thread...

    in Comic Magazines

    Posted

    This may have been discussed in this or another forum before.

     

    Does anyone have a theory about why entry #732 is missing from the Kennedy Guide? Even though it is noted in the Head wiki guide, I just noticed it today!

     

    My theory: #732 was accidentally deleted during editing and once contained the info for Richard Stoner's 1975 mini, Figments. It is just too odd that it would have not been noticed and listed by Kennedy.

     

    Just putting 2 and 2 together.

     

    And what's up with Kennedy's inability to properly list the guide in proper alphabetical order? Is it because his classic was complied at the dawn of modern, computerized, pre-press editing and he chose to stick to hand written notes?

     

    It does seem that Figments #1 would most likely be the missing #732.

    The Unofficial Underground Comix thread...

    in Comic Magazines

    Posted

    For those that aren't aware R. Crumb's Art & Beauty #3 will be released on 31 Aug. 2016 for $7.99. There's also a collected hard bound edition with all 3 issues that will be out 26 July 2016 for $35 and a Deluxe limited to 400 edition for $150 (that I've read may be already out as I read someone posting as having purchased theirs already at a R. Crumb gallery showing I think in the U.K.).

    https://davidzwirnerbooks.com/product/art-beauty-magazine-drawings-r-crumb

    Neil Gaiman's AMERICAN GODS on Starz (2017)

    in The Movie Forum

    Posted

    Whoa!

     

    American Gods Casts Emily Browning As Laura Moon

     

    Starz has cast Emily Browning as Laura Moon in American Gods.

     

    Based on Neil Gaiman’s acclaimed fantasy novel, American Gods follows ex-convict Shadow Moon (Ricky Whittle) as he takes a job with the mysterious Mr. Wednesday (Ian McShane) and ends up caught in a war between old gods and new gods.

     

    Laura is Shadow’s wife who has been waiting for Shadow to be released from prison. She doesn’t realize that her actions and Shadow’s release will lead her on an entirely unexpected journey.

     

    Browning received a Critics Choice nomination for Best Young Actress for her performance as Violet in 2004’s film adaptation of A Series of Unfortunate Events. Her credits also include Sucker Punch, Legend, Ghost Ship, Ned Kelly, Pompeii and Magic Mike.

     

    emily-browning-174727.jpg

     

    Nice! I thought she did a great job in God Help The Girl.

    Anyone planning on seeing Hardcore Henry?

    in The Movie Forum

    Posted

    OK, so if you're not familiar with how this movie came about, you may have seen this music video from a couple years ago from Biting Elbows.

    This director had a GoPro and went snowboarding, but he didn't know how to snowboard so he didn't get any footage. A friend of his borrowed the GoPro and did some parkour. He like the footage and it gave him the idea for the music video, which was popular enough that they did a gofundme for this movie, Hardcore Henry. If you liked the music video and think you can take a hour and a half of even more extreme, bone breaking, blood spilling action, then go for it. Seems there was a comic that was given to those that went to the 7pm fan experience showing tonight (only about a dozen people at the local theater, so there might not be a lot of them around if this movie is a hit, though that's not likely). Wonder if it explains why the head bad guy has super powers?