Joseph Ragno

A restored 7.0 Sup 1 recently went for $66k.  A few years ago a restored 3.5 went for $45.6k.

If you are doing this for "money", are you sure all this is worth pursuing?  What restored grade do you ultimately think you'll get?

There will be a premium for that page.  I have no idea how long it will take, or what the dollar premium will be. Perhaps you will be the one that answers this question for us all. Nice problem to have.

As far as the centerfold goes, I think it would normally go for about $5k at auction. But that would be to a collector just for sake for owning the centerfold.  For the person looking to complete a book, it would be worth more.  This is likely why the seller is not putting the centerfold up for auction.  He wants (your) premium dollar.  Good luck

I don't know that it would reach more than $5k at an auction, but...

There's a coverless, centerfold missing Sup 1 on sale by My Comic Shop for about $40k, and that one clearly shows the back page ad version "On sale June 2", and not the later printings depicting "on sale now"

An otherwise complete coverless Sup 1 sold for $55k about 2 years ago.  Who knows how the values of the 2 different back page variants will play out in the future.

"Where am I?  How did I get here?  Who are you?"

"Who am I?  For a moment, I had almost forgotten myself...  I was once the one the world called -- Captain America!"

"I wonder what it would really be like -- to be the fastest man on earth?"

CRAAAAAK

On 2/3/2024 at 11:04 AM, Ameri said:

In terms of underrated, here is something. Captain Marvel 1 was a Simon and Kirby product during their Captain America work in 1941. Strike that up to moonlighting to make some extra bucks without Timely knowing about it. The front cover is CC Beck but what I forgot is the back cover is by Kirby which are random panels from the interior. GCD pointed out something I never heard before. One of the stories features monsters from Saturn. Here is what GCD says about that and here is the thunder god page.     

"Thor Precursor. Shazam referred to as “Thunder God” and fights Aliens from Saturn. This motif used when Kirby co-created Thor in Journey Into Mystery (Marvel, 1952 series) #83 with Thunder God fighting Aliens from Saturn as per Comic Book Historians article researched by Alex Grand."

 

Pfff... the "Batman"... some guy dressed up like a bat ... it'll never be popular

I rarely go for bronze or copper age collectibles, but this is one I wanted to pursue.  I understand the glamour of ASM 129, but for me the ultimate moment in the Punisher storyline is the execution of his family.  It's not in ASM 129, and you can't see it from the encapsulation of an entire comic.  So I paged out MP2, and I'm able to display these 2 fantastic collectibles.

Tommy-gun to smoking gun

On 2/15/2024 at 8:44 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

It’s a rogue piece from a different page,  but regardless its source, the eye appeal is adversely affected. So that, plus the other problems with the page, are too much for me

What I see is a chance to own one of the best pages, from one of the best Golden Age comic books, with the first image of perhaps the finest villain in the history of comics, in rare supply, for a bargain price.

Looks like there's a piece of page 3 (?) attached to the back of the page.  Not sure this is a problem.  Other than some tears, I fear I may be missing the problem you are asking about.

One of my keepers is brittle.  I would think this would be a problem if you were keeping a raw book with intention of leafing through it.  Most of the time with a graded book, brittle pages will be on a lower grade, encased in an envelope, then encapsulated, without intention of it being further handled.  Not a problem for me.

Based on the general themes of these keepers, many of you, (and I mean us), need serious psychiatric attention.

On 2/4/2024 at 1:47 AM, Mmehdy said:

Whiz 2....very under valued and a fantastic story and art.....

I'd like to bump this thread.  As a fairly new collector, I found it fascinating.  I learned a lot.  One of my takeaways from reading the entire thread is the focus on individual images and pages from these comics.  I'm new to comic collecting, but I'm not new to investing.  Seems to me that the greatest percentage increase moving forward is collecting the individual pages that represent these first images or sentinel moments in a character's storyline.  I don't disparage any form of collecting that makes people happy.  It just makes less sense to pay a high amount for a midgrade key book, rather than spending less money on the pages that one can actually see the images that make the comic or character special. 

On 1/27/2024 at 4:25 PM, MrBedrock said:

Wow!  Do you own these, or did you just search for pics?

Not counting comic covers, can you help me find interior Golden Age pages where Captain America is pictured with Hitler?  So far, this is the only one I can find, but I'm somewhat of a Golden Age noob.  Thanks.

On 1/2/2024 at 3:47 AM, Telegan said:

Stupid question, but are you talking about strictly in comics?  Because NYC was called "Gotham" or "Gotham City" long before its comic book appearance (I think it goes back to the 1700s or 1800s).

Yes, particularly how it relates to the Batman world.

Perhaps… *perhaps* a clue that Detective #48 came before Batman #4:  there is an ad in Detective #48 for Batman #4.  It states that Batman #4 goes on sale January 13 (1941).  I don’t know how far in advance Detective #48 would be available before its February cover date. I don’t know if there is an ad in Batman #4 for a Detective Comics issue.  I can’t tell from the story lines in either comic which would have preceded the other. Does anyone have any more definitive evidence to settle this debate?

Here are some pics.  The image from Batman #4 shows Gotham City on a newspaper.  The image from Detective #48 shows Gotham City in the narration (top right).

Hello all.  Please help settle an issue for all us that like to collect “firsts”.  The problem is there seems to be conflicting information about when the term “Gotham City” is first used.  Here are pics of CGC slabs claiming the first mention of Gotham City in both Batman #4 and Detective #48.  Note that the cover date for Batman #4 is Winter 1940 (ambiguous), and for Detective #48 it’s February 1941.

You will not have died in vain my friend!  I swear it!  THE IRON MAN SWEARS IT!