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Man has anyone tried those cheesy garlic bread flavored Lays potato chips? They are frickin' GOOD

How's Texas ? Cold right now but settling in alright. So all this ruckus is about GIJOEISOSSUM or whatever his name is? He sent me a weird PM a week or so ago. Said he wanted to get to know me - thought it was a bit Based upon what I have seen from him the short time I have been back on the Boards I wouldn't deal with him or a few others. Just sayin' :shrug:

glad I have internet again

I bought a book from Dale. I paid for it and he mailed it to me. Great transaction

Bought a garbage azz modern Thanos book from him. Great communication and book shipped fast Thanks Darwin

Got a nice Warlock #9 from Adrian. Book was priced fairly and packed well and shipped promptly. Sell me MOAR!!!

That's sounds like a sexual harassment lawsuit waiting to happen Hi Fay! Hi greggy!

Thank God and glad you two could work it out

It's a fine line. How about taking it to the opposite extreme. If the book was sold with front and back cover scans and came back from CGC with "Pages Missing" would you feel the same way? It doesn't matter whether the seller "thought" or "knew" it wasn't stained. What matters is that the book had a serious flaw (in the buyers opinion) that was not included in the books description. I think the rules not mentioning the book be accurately described is a pedantic point. That's not the situation. He was selling a CGC 8.0 Blue, not a raw comic that might have missing pages. That's not relevant. A grade is just a number. It doesn't tell the whole story and what some see as a serious defect others might not. He's selling a CGC graded comic on CGC's site, the grade is king. And the rules stipulate info about grade and pics. And the accepted wisdom of the boards is that is king. You said it's a fine line...the difference between this situation and a raw comic that could have pages missing is demarcated with a triple line drawn with the fattest of sharpies. If, in this situation, there are other factors that you feel are more important, you should speak up before hand, with something like pending graders' notes. I've never heard anyone suggest that all Board deals are pending graders' notes that meet a buyer's particular preferences. ...........Awww nevermind

Dan, I find your answers very honest,you admitted that Bob's offer was a better deal than what you asked for originally and you admitted selling before you had the book back so you could maximize your profit. I applaud you for that. However you must see that your actions also have consequences. You sold a book before you had it in hand, and before you had the graders notes. You made a statement about a "stain" that turned out to be in error. So, I think there are errors on both sides. Bob's error was making an offer of a trade to begin with. This is why I don't love trades, i'd always have traders regret. However, I can absolutely see where his offer of cash should have solved the problem, he was offering full asking price. You on the other hand saw a better deal and you wanted that. The fact that you later would have accepted the full price (after getting the book back) just further muddies the waters. The end part, the part with the stain, well that's more on you. I would really love to see you both just walk away and call it a day. I don't see any other reasonable solution here. Sharon, I agree with the majority of what you wrote save for what I bolded above. I think it should be clarified that Dan HAD a better deal already agreed to (the cash/trade) and he wanted that adhered to. That's what she said. Re-read it. Wait. I re-read it. She was correct but not about the timeline. my bad. A bit confused by your edit Perhaps I am splitting hairs here but I'm not sure I agree with the "offer of 16k cash should have solved the problem". By doing so it would have been accepting a less favourable deal than was originally agreed to by both parties. As I understand it, Dan wanted the original cash/trade deal adhered to and I find absolutely no fault in that. Could he have accepted the entire cash deal? Sure, but that is his prerogative as the seller, especially since a deal had already been finalized. I was just going to say "that's what she said. Re-read it". But then I went back and re-read the timelines and statements. She was correct in her statement, but got the timeline of when the full cash option was back on the table incorrect.

+1 (thumbs u So what do we do? Does Bob just go on the PL unless he buys it? There's no vote for this, right? I DO NOT THINK BOB SHOULD BE PUT ON THE PL. This is not his fault or Dan's fault. You too need to walk away before you forever hate each other. +1 It's not worth getting bent out of shape. Seller keeps a beautiful book and buyer moves on. No, this is my total honest opinion: Bomber bob: You made a trade in which you knew you weren't coming out on top, but you wanted a nice book. You got buyers remorse on a book and tried to adjust the offer. For that you are at fault. Then you found out about the stain. That is neither of your fault's. Spider Dan: You had a good thing coming. A sweet trade in which you came out on top. Then Bob wanted to adjust it to all cash, the same thing you would have originally accepted, but you got greedy and wanted the trade back. For this you are at fault. Then Bob found out about the stain. That is neither of your fault's. You both made a mistake in the transaction, and there was an unfortunate problem with the stain. At this point it is best for both of you to totally walk away from this situation. It will only become a grudge you will both stew on. Shake hands and move on. A comic should never ruin a friendship. Wanting to stick to YOUR offer makes ME greedy?? If I offered you $100 for one of your MOS 18's you agree, then I decide I only want to pay $80. Does it make you "greedy" to want the $100 we agreed on?? That's crazy That was rather judgmental GIJOE But I will say FF#1 would make ME greedy

Dan, I find your answers very honest,you admitted that Bob's offer was a better deal than what you asked for originally and you admitted selling before you had the book back so you could maximize your profit. I applaud you for that. However you must see that your actions also have consequences. You sold a book before you had it in hand, and before you had the graders notes. You made a statement about a "stain" that turned out to be in error. So, I think there are errors on both sides. Bob's error was making an offer of a trade to begin with. This is why I don't love trades, i'd always have traders regret. However, I can absolutely see where his offer of cash should have solved the problem, he was offering full asking price. You on the other hand saw a better deal and you wanted that. The fact that you later would have accepted the full price (after getting the book back) just further muddies the waters. The end part, the part with the stain, well that's more on you. I would really love to see you both just walk away and call it a day. I don't see any other reasonable solution here. Sharon, I agree with the majority of what you wrote save for what I bolded above. I think it should be clarified that Dan HAD a better deal already agreed to (the cash/trade) and he wanted that adhered to. That's what she said. Re-read it. Wait. I re-read it. She was correct but not about the timeline. my bad.

Dan, I find your answers very honest,you admitted that Bob's offer was a better deal than what you asked for originally and you admitted selling before you had the book back so you could maximize your profit. I applaud you for that. However you must see that your actions also have consequences. You sold a book before you had it in hand, and before you had the graders notes. You made a statement about a "stain" that turned out to be in error. So, I think there are errors on both sides. Bob's error was making an offer of a trade to begin with. This is why I don't love trades, i'd always have traders regret. However, I can absolutely see where his offer of cash should have solved the problem, he was offering full asking price. You on the other hand saw a better deal and you wanted that. The fact that you later would have accepted the full price (after getting the book back) just further muddies the waters. The end part, the part with the stain, well that's more on you. I would really love to see you both just walk away and call it a day. I don't see any other reasonable solution here. Well said Sharon. I agree. And I can empathize with both parties perspective, but as someone just stated it's a comic book. Not worth ruining goodwill/friendship here. There will be other nice copies that find their way to the FS threads. In the 7 years here I have seen more than a few nice copies here...Dan can still sell the book. Though some people might, not all people will call the stain a deal breaker.

What I was implying is maybe they detected the stain throughout the book with a black light or some other light that can detect stains. Not everyone has one of those. I for one don't :shrug:

Black Light?

Or ship the wrong book

Sorry to hear that Dan. Not defending him whatsoever, but I will say Bob has bought high $$ books (not 5 figures though) from me in the past without a hitch. Shame it didn't work out...Sometimes circumstances happen, though it doesn't seem that way from your telling...There may be other factors involved he didn't want to divulge. But could you try re-listing it since it has been less than a week? Just edit the thread and state it is still available. If I had the scratch I would buy it

That is a SSSSSSWWWWWWWWWEET Asse Room You need to come to town to visit. I definitely will in the next couple of months...I leave for Killeen, TX to my new home Saturday night...

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Forgive me for not knowing, but is there a list of eBay sellers (I know we have a buyers list) that should be avoided?

Like Guinness Book of World Records or Farmers Almanac

Nah, haven't you heard? Whining about receiving a damaged free gift is the new "pressing" thread around here. I can't believe that that "Summer's Eve" had to gall to then whine about how everyone was ganging up on him, and how mean boardies are. He was starting to sound like Mitch over in the Gold threads. I wasn't mean to him Link to this latest debacle? LINKY link to specific post suck it show-off

Nah, haven't you heard? Whining about receiving a damaged free gift is the new "pressing" thread around here. I can't believe that that "Summer's Eve" had to gall to then whine about how everyone was ganging up on him, and how mean boardies are. He was starting to sound like Mitch over in the Gold threads. I wasn't mean to him Link to this latest debacle? LINKY