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Hard to tell. The list of people who have to date written a check for 1M for a comic book is very short. And one is a billionaires son. At the high end, the nosebleed end of the hobby, we can extrapolate what these books are worth all day long. It’s only when they sell that we know. But the trend upward is encouraging… new money can make these dreams come true…

Makes sense. That’s a big savings if they were graded before the price increase. But if values continue to increase as they have been, what’s another 100K in fees faced with millions in comics? Lol

not really... Looks to me like the advertiser added that line "Records play 3 Full Minutes...". This cause them to reduce al the rest of the text. Tats why the little images in lower no longer line up with the text. And adding the 3 minutes line meant raising all the text above it higher, so it bumps the big image at top right now.. also As was pointed out, the boxed text at bottom were reduced in one version, but left as is on the other. So these are three different printings! And that doesn't include the green version. which again, as pointed out, ins' an inking issue as the front cover of the green one isn't affected at all. Whats really cool though is the product name: HOME RECORDO! Sounds like a latin movie star of the 40s! And that this new product is amazing --- a radio phonograph that RECORDS from radio AND speaking into it! 2.98 sound cheap even for 1940 for this advanced technology!

so its still raw? ought to be a minimum 9.4. That collection is awesome. THEYRE STILL OUT THERE!

haha yup/ I forgot about that sale. I had a Cap 1 many years ago but traded it toward a bigger book. Like all such deals I made to keep the cash outlay down, I should have kept both! Guess thats why I cant track Cap 1 in my head ... cause it hurts!

I agree with each book on your list. Especially the Marvels. Tradition says that Marvel 1 is still up there, but I’ll believe it when I see it . The 9.8 grade for Cap should get it over a million… but let’s see if and when that day comes. This new money may take us in new directions…

the Allentown Tec 27 is suggested to be a 9.4 or even a 9.6. There are other copies out there raw that will come in between 8.0 and 9.4. We just have to wait and see. Yes, an AF 15 9.6 could be upgraded, and even a raw 9.8 might be siting in a collection. As Dylan sang, the "wheel is still in spin". This AF15 9.6 auction is so exciting because of the timing right now when we have some very motivated buyers seemingly ready to pounce on anything juicy for sale. And fight for it tooth and nail. Spidey is arguably a much hotter character than Superman or Batman now. If youre new to collecting comics, you want to lock up a big key book in the highest grade you can that exists... Spidey is arguably the most popular character, and a 9.6 is the best you can get. Plus, none of the 9.6s have sold publicly in a long time now, so that means some of us might have been waiting to upgrade. Conditions are ripe for a big shocker price tag. ...or not, and it turns no one is willing to go higher than 1,5 or 1.7M, preserving the "natural order of things". But that's still a pretty good number.

got it. you prob should have done the deal in person... as you say, you could have weeded out the clunkers if you did. but I dont think that book was coming out of its cubby even if you did...

yes. however, the question here is not which is a better book, but more whether this 9.6 AF can SELL for more Right Now?? Even if f it does, I don't think that it means AF 15 is WORTH more than a similar HG Action 1, right? Its timing. The market has been on fire of late, lots of new collectors buying key books in grades we would have serious reservations about but paying. This kind of new mindset, the one that says that :I dont know or really care what the traditional prices these comics sold for in the past, all I know is that this is what it costs today to win one or buy one, and I want it!" I agree with this thinking. I mean.It's how we all bought our books back then -- for top retail minus some kind of discount so we could sleep that night! Big difference is the huge jump up in prices right now is so sudden that experience tells us its should be a blip and prices will soften at some point. but they dont, or just dont care. but I buried the lead! What did you mean make a pilgrimage to see the Mile High copy? Even if you got down there, could he really have showed it to you? Or do you mean 20 years ago when you guys might have gotten together and he'd take it our for you? (getting kinda kinky all of a sudden...)

I can’t believe this thread has died out so soon. If this were an Action 1 thread, about the highest graded copy coming to auction, it would have 3 times as many posts by now. Is this an indication that action 1 is still a much cooler book… even though this 9.6 may actually hammer for more than the 9.0 Action 1s? if it does, and it may, I think it’s not a fait]r comparison because right now we have a lot more BSD bidders than were in the game for the 9.0s… if Harari were bidding up against these new “crypto” guys, he’d have been pushed much higher.

I recall that paper was made from cotton fibers for a long time then switched to wood pulp. The wood pulp introduced the acidity issue, or exacerbated it. But don’t quote me. Try Google…

Yeah. Unless a books sells really often, it’s still all guesswork.

As far as I know it doesn’t enhance appearance. But two aspects to consider. If the book is soaked in order to deacidivize it, it will be pressed afterwards. Possibly taken apart too, page by page. And further, my analogy was not to be taken literally. More in the vein that in 30-50 years, the treated books will be going strong while untreated books wither, (Darwin again) depending on the care of storage. Personally when protected I think newsprint will last a long long time perfectly well on its own. this was the point of my linking it to pressing, in that it opens up the similarity of manipulation aiding some books over others, “similar” to what pressing does. Pressing enhances values by grade improvement. Treating books leads to a “similar” increase in value: over time a treated book will remain in viable condition to HAVE a value, while others copies disintegrate slowly to zero value.

Btw I lasted until page 5 of 10... do I need to read the Rest? My head hurt..

But that’s a great distinction, the value of the comic supersedes it’s published date. I wondered about how you’d submit a modern book that’s worth 5K. It would have to be Walkthrough, if only to protect yourself if damage caused you to seek a settlement. Submitting the value of 400 means CGC can settle for 400 tops

thanx! Ive been on the boards long enough to know that someone would have the answers. I agree about de acidification for old paper... of course the hobby would have to agree to a cut off there we are truly saving copies, and not just enhancing them. Then again, we all collected under the basic shared assumption that the best surviving grades copies were the most valuable, that as each succumbed, to fire, environment, poor storage etc, that these copies were sacrificed as some sort of collecting Darwinism at play. So as we've seen with pressing, do we want to encourage another wave of artificial enhancing. (while obviously, theres a big difference between improving a grade and preserving a book...)

its amazing how developed the app has become. Is there a paid staff of dozens compiling all the data AND churning out all the hype subsets and lists? I check it every now and then and am amazed at all the work being done. But I agree that a KEY shouldn't be a book worth a few dollars. Maybe "notable" element, as you say. Then again, isn't a KEY just an issue that stands out from the rest for whatever reason?

Impeach President Nelson!

But these tertiary first appearances are affordable. And many were published when the buyers were kids...

Wrap em in Saran Wrap!

gawd these videos are so depressing.... They come up with a low ball number, THEN beat the guy down a lot more. Just goes to show that we are all out of our league trying to sell something we know nothing about! And you can't trust the buyer's advice cause hes the last person you want to ask to trust!

Chance of a lifetime! Hee haw

Fedex ground in inexpensive and very reliable. However Fedex insurance limit is low, ($100?) so best is if you have your own insurance when youre shipping books of value.

got it. if the records were lost, nothing can be done. 99 out of 100 other companies wouldn't go to the effort. And, a large % of the recipients would probably shrug receiving the art.... certainly would pay to have it shipped to them. Was there any interesting artwork by known artists? or mostly a lot of heavily retouched photos?

GoCollect price guide is resembling Overstreet more and more, well -- the a Bizarro Overstreet! On so many HG keys, they are just as off from the market as Overstreet was -- only always way HIGHER in values. I realize when books dont change hands often enough, and other key is going nuts, they feel the need to extrapolate /guess what they'd sell for now. But theres no guarantee of that. They should acknowledge prices that are NOT based on ACTUAL sales to differentiate from the prices derived by math from real sales history.