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Detective Comics #27 (DC, 1939) CGC FN/VF 7.0 Off-white pages.... | Lot #91044 | Heritage Auctions

Steve Lauterbach!

When did the 7.5 sell? 2004? Something like that? Who was the seller? I can't remember for the life of me and I don't have records of it, as far as I can tell. The Church copy traded hands publicly in 1996. DA's copy is in the vault. The last time anyone had a public opportunity to buy a copy of this book this nice was almost 20 years ago. It could be really surprising and once again screw up all my estimates!

Don't tell my wife, but I'm selling our house.

It's an easy 7 figure book. I was thinking that the two 8.0s are $2,000,000+ books, so $1,000,000+ is easy for this book as it might be the best possible copy. The other books have been out of the public eye for a while now. Does anyone know the location of the former 7.5?

There are two 8.0s in the census, so it's the third highest graded.

It's fresh (fresh), excitingIt's so exciting to meIt's fresh (fresh), excitingIt's so inviting to me, yeah

CGC Cert # 3945284001 Title Superman Issue 1 Issue Date Summer 1939 Issue Year 1939 Publisher D.C. Comics Grade 7.0 Page Quality OFF-WHITE Grade Date 10/14/2021 Grade Category Universal Art Comments Jerry Siegel story Joe Shuster cover and art Key Comments Origin of Superman. Superman pin-up on back cover.

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No worries, it's all good.

Lol. That's not even a fantasy!

I'm both. I have more money in art than i have in comics, at this point. I'm also involved with a local contemporary art museum and am a painter myself. I'm also not pissed! I just know both worlds and want to educate to the best of my ability. You can hate this work all you want, that's fine with me. I just like to fill in some of the gaps where i can.

"okay, so let me get this straight" says the biotech millionaire, "you have a comic that's graded 8.5 out of 10, you wet it, put it in a press, and then it will grade higher. The same object will then sell for 2x or 4x the previous price simply because the number on the plastic tomb? And you can tell the difference? No thanks! I'll stick to art"

The big time contemporary art collectors i know and have met (and through my connection as a donor I get to interact with people who put their names on buildings and loan their works to museums) are some of the most intelligent and successful people I've ever met. Many of them are actually the people comic collectors (including some here on the boards) fantasize about swooping in with their millions and billions to randomly dip into the hobby to buy the latest big ticket comic. It's a different thing than comics, that's all. Saying people are crazy because they collect something you don't like is a bummer. Paying 2x the price for a 9.2 vs a 9.0 or paying 10x the price because a book was in Edgar Church's house would look crazy to some people, too. We have the framework in which comics works. It's valid, because it's what we do. To say someone else's framework is invalid misses the point. It's not up to you. The art market understands what it is and how it works. The overall framework works (really well!) for the art market. People can do what they want with their money. The art market is also much larger and much (hundreds of years) more mature than comics so it's like a blind man describing an elephant. You can look at the high end market for contemporary art, post war and modern art, old masters, impressionists, etc and they'll all have different approaches to the business of art.

Yeah, my wife just read Ninth Street Women, so the anecdotes about him are fresh in my mind.

lol. That's one bridge too far!

He was a terrible human being! Fascinating story, incredible breakthrough and just a horrible person. And yes, I said exactly the same thing earlier about the way that art is valued now. This is especially true of contemporary art (art being created now) but is also true of artists like Rothko. This isn't a secret. This is exactly the conversation that takes place in contemporary art circles. It's not a negative to say that a lot of value is based on the story. It's like pointing out that comic book collectors are obsessed with condition or that water is wet. There are artists that transcend the conceptual trap and make art of real beauty, but they still have a conceptual framework that underpins what they're doing.

I forgot the other 9.0 (which was only a 9.0 briefly) $126,500.00 at Heritage on 2003/03/06 (8.5) $161,000.00 at Heritage on 2005/10/14 (9.0) $1,260,000.00 at Heritage on 2019/11/21 (9.4)

I'm right here guys. If you want to call me an insufficiently_thoughtful_person because I'm fooled by modern art, please do so directly!

How rough of a ride did MC 1 have in the oughts? Pay copy $40,000.00 at Private Sale in 1993 $350,000.00 at Private Sale in 2003 $201,250.00 at Heritage on 2006/01/19 $204,999.99 at Heritage on 2007/08/03 $227,050.00 at Heritage on 2010/02/25 Larson (8.0) $41,400.00 at Sotheby's in 1997 $48,000.00 at Unknown in 1998 $101,575.00 at Heritage on 2006/11/17 $89,625.00 at Heritage on 2007/11/15 $89,625.00 at Heritage on 2009/11/19

Yeah, it was a mess there for a while.

Ah, the famous hot potato pay copy.