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Not just a link, I collated all the available data on the church collection and got it into a format people could use. That's a project I worked on over a couple of years. Passing around the incomplete data from the original list was not doing anyone any good.

oooh! Here's one that's even more provocative.... I'd take the Allentown books (135 books!) over the Promise collection.

Oh, it's insane! It's not even close. If you just take the Church books up until, say... 1941, it's more impressive than the Promise collection by a wide margin. I'd take individual Church runs (Action, for the most obvious example) than the whole Promise collection.

FYI here is the best version I have, although it's out of date by a couple of years. https://github.com/roblarsen/Edgar-Church-Collection-Data/tree/master/src

Wow! I just set another record!

I just broke a record too! I can't say what category or what price because the buyer wants to remain anonymous.

All that, but! I think the Mile High could be pumped up to infinity at this point. Also, the Mile High was 100000000% offered to Dave so there is zero chance he doesn't have a copy he thinks is nicer. That said, my comment was about a Promise style, new copy, showing up.

A Batman #1 CGC 8.0 is selling for over $1,000,000 at an auction-house that doesn't do comics. It might match the 1.2 million for the one earlier this year which in turn nearly matched the 1.26 million the highest graded and 2nd best available went for a year and a half ago. A Batman 9.4 sold for nearly $1,000,000 more than the Marvel #1. I won't even get started on Superman #1. If a high grade copy were to come up for sale it would be crazy. It would be all we would talk about for 6 months. TITLE ISSUE# PEDIGREE GRADE DATE VENUE PRICE Amazing Fantasy 15 9.6 on 2021/09/09 Heritage $3,600,000.00 Action Comics 1 8.5 on 2021/04/06 ComicConnect $3,250,000.00 Action Comics 1 9.0 on 2014/08/24 eBay $3,207,852.00 Batman 1 9.4 on 2021/01/14 Heritage $2,220,000.00 Action Comics 1 9.0 on 2011/11/30 ComicConnect $2,161,000.00 Action Comics 1 8.5 on 2018/06/13 ComicConnect $2,052,000.00 Action Comics 1 8.5 on 2010/03/29 ComicConnect $1,500,000.00 Detective Comics 27 7.0 on 2020/11/19 Heritage $1,500,000.00 Marvel Comics 1 9.4 on 2019/11/21 Heritage $1,260,000.00 Batman 1 8.0 on 2021/04/15 ComicConnect $1,207,500.00

You're probably right!

I'm rewriting the "Top Ten Most Valuable Comics" article with new values and a new order. When I first wrote it, books in the top ten started at $550,000. There are probably 100 books now that would sell for that much.

I was distracted by other things in this thread. The idea that Superman #1 and Batman #1 are eclipsed by Marvel #1 is crazy cray. Marvel #1 is in competition with Captain America Comics #1 as the most valuable Golden Age Timely. The DC books are in another category entirely.

I read your question wrong. I answered "yes" when I should have said "no" I WOULD NOT trade one of those two books for an Amazing Fantasy 15 CGC 9.6. Also, I added that if I had an Amazing Fantasy 15 CGC 9.6 I would have been the one selling it. As I mentioned, I don't like Spider-Man enough to keep a book like that (or any Amazing Fantasy 15, to be honest.) But that's me and I am not a huge Spider-Man fan.

I would, but I'm at the way back of the line when it comes to collecting Spider-Man. If I had one of the AF 15s I'd be selling it yesterday.

That's my gut, but I'm trying to rank these books and I have to actually square the result we just saw with what I think about the relative values of these books. So, would both sell for more than 3.6 million? If so, then that would be fine and my brain wouldn't have to hurt. But when I thought about the values of those two books I didn't really think that they'd sell for more than 3.6 million. Therefore, hurt brain. I may have to recalibrate my brain and just start the conversation for even those books at like $4,000,000. Another answer would be to value the Amazing Fantasy 15s at like 2.25-2.5 million (with some variation based on page quality/whatever might split them) since I don't think the next one is going to sell for as much as this one did and then I can safely do what my gut tells me to do. But... the book really did sell for that much, so I'd hate to do that. Hurt brain!

I need to wrap my head around this question- If the Church Marvel Comics #1 (call it a 9.8) or Allentown Captain America #1 (9.8, upgraded from 9.6) came up for sale today where would they rank against the Amazing Fantasy 15 CGC 9.6 that just sold? Against one of the other three 9.6s, if one were to come up for sale? My brain hurts.

The Church copy has been the same collection since the 1980s.

(And I've also heard of people, not just those who have sold to him, who have seen some of his books.)

He didn't burn his Batmobile. We know that much.

Working on it!

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To me: Church AC 1 Allentown Tec 27 9.2 Tec 27 9.0 Action ! 9.0 Action ! 8.5 Church Tec 27 Best Superman 1 and... dentist Bat 1? CGC 9.4 is hard to beat. If it's a substantially better copy, then, yes.

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Oh it's crazy. Every one of these Heritage auctions has 10-15 books selling for $100,000+ It's nutty!