Do You Feel The Church Books Being Stored in Stacks

[Tarzan_Geek]

 

 

 

good lord, the minutia of the pusillanimous, is ignominious, in the least!

 

Pusillanimous? You're one to talk ...

 

 

 

 

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...you obviously didn't look up this word to ascertain its meaning

 

 

now, female, meet lexicon...have a nice date

 

I didn't need to ... one of the synonyms for pusillanimous is cowardly. I just found it humorous that an anonymous shill who associates himself with a pair of badly photoshopped boobs would dare to call anyone small, cowardly, or shameful.

 

I find it even more humorous ... and appropriate ... that you would associate yourself with a "neuter."

 

G'Night, Lexicon!

[The Question?]

 

 

GASP!!!!!!

 

 

these boobs are NOT photoshoped ...in any way, shape, or form ...they're natural, akin to pressed comic books

[Tarzan_Geek]

 

GASP!!!!!!

 

 

these boobs are NOT photoshoped ...in any way, shape, or form ...they're natural, akin to pressed comic books

 

Photoshopped boobs = pressed comic books ... (thumbs u

[ciorac]

Why does this thread make think of this commercial?

Because you like to make bad analogies?

Two reasons: 1) Not matter how it's packaged, it's still the same old same old. 2) It's all about being able to have your own choice or opinion.

 

Sure. You have a choice to join or not. It's not complicated. And as a member, you have the chance to voice your opinion any time.

 

The "same old same old" sounds like "staying on message" to me.

 

And speaking of choice, don't you believe in the buyers right to choose whether he wants to lay down bucks for a pressed book or not? That's what this is all about. If you really believe in freedom of choice, then you should have no problem with the Network of Disclosure.

 

I don't have a problem with disclosure. I have a problem with pressing = restoration.

 

Do you also have a problem with 2+2=4? Since they are very similar principles I could understand why.

Bill, if you want to call me or my opinions stupid or say they count for nothing, then at least have the balls to say it outright. What are you going to do with the people who are already members of NOD who believe that pressing isn't restoration? List them in the Gallery Of Disclosure? No wonder your organization has no "traction."

 

Doc, and I call you Doc since I don't know your name, you are right, there are those in NOD who haven't said definitively whether they think pressing is resto.

 

Plain and simple, I disagree profoundly with that ascertion and find it disingenuous at best, stupid at worst.

 

Your opinion, like anyone else's counts for plenty. I just happen to believe to the core of my being that you are either:

 

1. Misinformed

2. Ambiguous

3. Stubborn

 

Or possibly antagonistic for the sake of antagonism? Or think it is "cool" to be with the others who fit any of the above five possibilities.

 

How's that for cahones?

[Tarzan_Geek]

Hi Bill!

His name is Jim.

[qualitycomix]

Timber!!!!!!!

[DrWatson]

Why does this thread make think of this commercial?

Because you like to make bad analogies?

Two reasons: 1) Not matter how it's packaged, it's still the same old same old. 2) It's all about being able to have your own choice or opinion.

 

Sure. You have a choice to join or not. It's not complicated. And as a member, you have the chance to voice your opinion any time.

 

The "same old same old" sounds like "staying on message" to me.

 

And speaking of choice, don't you believe in the buyers right to choose whether he wants to lay down bucks for a pressed book or not? That's what this is all about. If you really believe in freedom of choice, then you should have no problem with the Network of Disclosure.

 

I don't have a problem with disclosure. I have a problem with pressing = restoration.

 

Do you also have a problem with 2+2=4? Since they are very similar principles I could understand why.

Bill, if you want to call me or my opinions stupid or say they count for nothing, then at least have the balls to say it outright. What are you going to do with the people who are already members of NOD who believe that pressing isn't restoration? List them in the Gallery Of Disclosure? No wonder your organization has no "traction."

 

Doc, and I call you Doc since I don't know your name, you are right, there are those in NOD who haven't said definitively whether they think pressing is resto.

 

Plain and simple, I disagree profoundly with that ascertion and find it disingenuous at best, stupid at worst.

 

Your opinion, like anyone else's counts for plenty. I just happen to believe to the core of my being that you are either:

 

1. Misinformed

2. Ambiguous

3. Stubborn

 

Or possibly antagonistic for the sake of antagonism? Or think it is "cool" to be with the others who fit any of the above five possibilities.

 

How's that for cahones?

Mr. Ponseti,

 

I find it short sighted at best and insulting at worst that just because I find pressing not to be restoration that I must be either:

 

1. Misinformed

2. Ambiguous

3. Stubborn

4. Antagonistic for the sake of antagonism

5. In it for the "coolness" factor

 

I can assure you that neither of those choices are the case. How about because I don't believe pressing is restoration? However, if I were you, I would poll each of the NOD members, find out who believes that pressing is not restoration, inform them that they are one of the five choices listed above and then collect another $50 from them while slapping them on the back.

 

Come to think of it, from my experience, I could list those same five choices for reasons why people would want to join NOD in the first place.

[ciorac]

Hi Bill!

His name is Jim.

 

You, my lovely friend, I know quite well. And admire greatly.

[Tarzan_Geek]

Hi Bill!

His name is Jim.

 

You, my lovely friend, I know quite well. And admire greatly.

 

[october]

Doc, and I call you Doc since I don't know your name, you are right, there are those in NOD who haven't said definitively whether they think pressing is resto.

 

Plain and simple, I disagree profoundly with that ascertion and find it disingenuous at best, stupid at worst.

 

Your opinion, like anyone else's counts for plenty. I just happen to believe to the core of my being that you are either:

 

1. Misinformed

2. Ambiguous

3. Stubborn

 

Or possibly antagonistic for the sake of antagonism? Or think it is "cool" to be with the others who fit any of the above five possibilities.

 

How's that for cahones?

 

Truly, there is no better way to convince people of your viewpoint and win converts than by insulting the hell out of them! Well played! You guys sure are a friendly bunch.

[ciorac]

Why does this thread make think of this commercial?

Because you like to make bad analogies?

Two reasons: 1) Not matter how it's packaged, it's still the same old same old. 2) It's all about being able to have your own choice or opinion.

 

Sure. You have a choice to join or not. It's not complicated. And as a member, you have the chance to voice your opinion any time.

 

The "same old same old" sounds like "staying on message" to me.

 

And speaking of choice, don't you believe in the buyers right to choose whether he wants to lay down bucks for a pressed book or not? That's what this is all about. If you really believe in freedom of choice, then you should have no problem with the Network of Disclosure.

 

I don't have a problem with disclosure. I have a problem with pressing = restoration.

 

Do you also have a problem with 2+2=4? Since they are very similar principles I could understand why.

Bill, if you want to call me or my opinions stupid or say they count for nothing, then at least have the balls to say it outright. What are you going to do with the people who are already members of NOD who believe that pressing isn't restoration? List them in the Gallery Of Disclosure? No wonder your organization has no "traction."

 

Doc, and I call you Doc since I don't know your name, you are right, there are those in NOD who haven't said definitively whether they think pressing is resto.

 

Plain and simple, I disagree profoundly with that ascertion and find it disingenuous at best, stupid at worst.

 

Your opinion, like anyone else's counts for plenty. I just happen to believe to the core of my being that you are either:

 

1. Misinformed

2. Ambiguous

3. Stubborn

 

Or possibly antagonistic for the sake of antagonism? Or think it is "cool" to be with the others who fit any of the above five possibilities.

 

How's that for cahones?

Mr. Ponseti,

 

I find it short sighted at best and insulting at worst that just because I find pressing not to be restoration that I must be either:

 

1. Misinformed

2. Ambiguous

3. Stubborn

4. Antagonistic for the sake of antagonism

5. In it for the "coolness" factor

 

I can assure you that neither of those choices are the case. How about because I don't believe pressing is restoration? However, if I were you, I would poll each of the NOD members and find out who believes that pressing is not restoration, inform them that they are one of the five choices listed above and then collect another $50 from them while slapping them on the back.

 

Come to think of it, from my experience, I could list those same five choices for reasons why people would want to join NOD in the first place.

 

Mr. Watson, you are correct of course, that it is your belief. What I indicated was that I believe the process that led to your belief must have been flawed.

 

I liken it to you and Richard pointing at a rose and calling it a sunflower. Because you "believe" it to be a sunflower does not make it so.

 

I defy anyone, in fact I challenge everyone, to produce one single shred of tangible evidence that introducing heat, moisture, and pressure with a mechanical device to return (restore) a comic book to a previous state, prior to damage occurring, is not a restorative process.

 

I don't think opinions matter in something that is factual. And the paragraph just above this one states FACTS.

 

Now if we all say it shouldn't be noted on a slab, or that it doesn't deserve a purple label, or that it is too tough to detect every time, then great I can understand and perhaps even support those OPINIONS about this form of restoration.

 

 

[ciorac]

Doc, and I call you Doc since I don't know your name, you are right, there are those in NOD who haven't said definitively whether they think pressing is resto.

 

Plain and simple, I disagree profoundly with that ascertion and find it disingenuous at best, stupid at worst.

 

Your opinion, like anyone else's counts for plenty. I just happen to believe to the core of my being that you are either:

 

1. Misinformed

2. Ambiguous

3. Stubborn

 

Or possibly antagonistic for the sake of antagonism? Or think it is "cool" to be with the others who fit any of the above five possibilities.

 

How's that for cahones?

 

Truly, there is no better way to convince people of your viewpoint and win converts than by insulting the hell out of them! Well played! You guys sure are a friendly bunch.

 

Thanks Andy, and I am quite friendly, I listed a range of possibilites and allowed him to choose one. How is that not being friendly?

[october]

Doc, and I call you Doc since I don't know your name, you are right, there are those in NOD who haven't said definitively whether they think pressing is resto.

 

Plain and simple, I disagree profoundly with that ascertion and find it disingenuous at best, stupid at worst.

 

Your opinion, like anyone else's counts for plenty. I just happen to believe to the core of my being that you are either:

 

1. Misinformed

2. Ambiguous

3. Stubborn

 

Or possibly antagonistic for the sake of antagonism? Or think it is "cool" to be with the others who fit any of the above five possibilities.

 

How's that for cahones?

 

Truly, there is no better way to convince people of your viewpoint and win converts than by insulting the hell out of them! Well played! You guys sure are a friendly bunch.

 

Thanks Andy, and I am quite friendly, I listed a range of possibilites and allowed him to choose one. How is that not being friendly?

 

Those are indeed some wonderful and complimentary choices!

[THE_BEYONDER]

I defy anyone, in fact I challenge everyone, to produce one single shred of tangible evidence that introducing heat, moisture, and pressure with a mechanical device to return (restore) a comic book to a previous state, prior to damage occurring, is not a restorative process.

 

[nearmint]

I think how many people think pressing = resto is irrelevant. All that is relevant is how many will align their buying habits with that belief. It's easy to vote on a forum poll on the subject, but how many of those that answered yes, or who proclaim in threads that pressing is resto(and further state that a person would have to be an insufficiently_thoughtful_person to think otherwise) are actually asking every dealer about every book that he/she is interested in?

 

As I've said in previous threads, I've talked to many dealers on this subject, and the uniform answer is that a miniscule number of their transactions include the question "has this book been pressed?" Until that changes dramatically, it simply doesn't matter who thinks pressing is resto and who doesn't.

 

 

 

 

[ciorac]

Doc, and I call you Doc since I don't know your name, you are right, there are those in NOD who haven't said definitively whether they think pressing is resto.

 

Plain and simple, I disagree profoundly with that ascertion and find it disingenuous at best, stupid at worst.

 

Your opinion, like anyone else's counts for plenty. I just happen to believe to the core of my being that you are either:

 

1. Misinformed

2. Ambiguous

3. Stubborn

 

Or possibly antagonistic for the sake of antagonism? Or think it is "cool" to be with the others who fit any of the above five possibilities.

 

How's that for cahones?

 

Truly, there is no better way to convince people of your viewpoint and win converts than by insulting the hell out of them! Well played! You guys sure are a friendly bunch.

 

Thanks Andy, and I am quite friendly, I listed a range of possibilites and allowed him to choose one. How is that not being friendly?

 

Those are indeed some wonderful and complimentary choices!

 

Thanks (I hope) for seeing some of the humor in my posts.

[ciorac]

I think how many people think pressing = resto is irrelevant. All that is relevant is how many will align their buying habits with that belief. It's easy to vote on a forum poll on the subject, but how many of those that answered yes, or who proclaim in threads that pressing is resto(and further state that a person would have to be an insufficiently_thoughtful_person to think otherwise) are actually asking every dealer about every book that he/she is interested in?

 

As I've said in previous threads, I've talked to many dealers on this subject, and the uniform answer is that a miniscule number of their transactions include the question "has this book been pressed?" Until that changes dramatically, it simply doesn't matter who thinks pressing is resto and who doesn't.

 

 

 

 

Perhaps you are right Jeff. As I said, how we deal with it is a completely separate matter. Those are the things you discuss above in relating dealers' perspective and experience.

 

It still doesn't change the facts.

[DrWatson]

Why does this thread make think of this commercial?

Because you like to make bad analogies?

Two reasons: 1) Not matter how it's packaged, it's still the same old same old. 2) It's all about being able to have your own choice or opinion.

 

Sure. You have a choice to join or not. It's not complicated. And as a member, you have the chance to voice your opinion any time.

 

The "same old same old" sounds like "staying on message" to me.

 

And speaking of choice, don't you believe in the buyers right to choose whether he wants to lay down bucks for a pressed book or not? That's what this is all about. If you really believe in freedom of choice, then you should have no problem with the Network of Disclosure.

 

I don't have a problem with disclosure. I have a problem with pressing = restoration.

 

Do you also have a problem with 2+2=4? Since they are very similar principles I could understand why.

Bill, if you want to call me or my opinions stupid or say they count for nothing, then at least have the balls to say it outright. What are you going to do with the people who are already members of NOD who believe that pressing isn't restoration? List them in the Gallery Of Disclosure? No wonder your organization has no "traction."

 

Doc, and I call you Doc since I don't know your name, you are right, there are those in NOD who haven't said definitively whether they think pressing is resto.

 

Plain and simple, I disagree profoundly with that ascertion and find it disingenuous at best, stupid at worst.

 

Your opinion, like anyone else's counts for plenty. I just happen to believe to the core of my being that you are either:

 

1. Misinformed

2. Ambiguous

3. Stubborn

 

Or possibly antagonistic for the sake of antagonism? Or think it is "cool" to be with the others who fit any of the above five possibilities.

 

How's that for cahones?

Mr. Ponseti,

 

I find it short sighted at best and insulting at worst that just because I find pressing not to be restoration that I must be either:

 

1. Misinformed

2. Ambiguous

3. Stubborn

4. Antagonistic for the sake of antagonism

5. In it for the "coolness" factor

 

I can assure you that neither of those choices are the case. How about because I don't believe pressing is restoration? However, if I were you, I would poll each of the NOD members and find out who believes that pressing is not restoration, inform them that they are one of the five choices listed above and then collect another $50 from them while slapping them on the back.

 

Come to think of it, from my experience, I could list those same five choices for reasons why people would want to join NOD in the first place.

 

Mr. Watson, you are correct of course, that it is your belief. What I indicated was that I believe the process that led to your belief must have been flawed.

 

I liken it to you and Richard pointing at a rose and calling it a sunflower. Because you "believe" it to be a sunflower does not make it so.

 

I defy anyone, in fact I challenge everyone, to produce one single shred of tangible evidence that introducing heat, moisture, and pressure with a mechanical device to return (restore) a comic book to a previous state, prior to damage occurring, is not a restorative process.

 

I don't think opinions matter in something that is factual. And the paragraph just above this one states FACTS.

 

Now if we all say it shouldn't be noted on a slab, or that it doesn't deserve a purple label, or that it is too tough to detect every time, then great I can understand and perhaps even support those OPINIONS about this form of restoration.

 

The only FACT that I can attest to, from this discussion, is that we have reached an idealogical impasse in regards to our OPINIONS on pressing and restoration.

[skypinkblu]

As I've muddled through this thread... and I have TRIED to look at it with a clear mind, something kept nagging at me...it seemed SO familiar...

 

and then I figured it out...

 

Have all of you read this book? If not, you might want to take a look...

[ciorac]

Also, in reference to the 2+2 analogy. We can hate the fact that it is true. We would love to add $2 to our $2 and end up with $5 or more. But sadly, we can't. We just can't. So, let's accept the facts and move on. Pretty please?