Mayor006 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Total drek. I'll take it all off your hands.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I was very happy with the Harley Quinn. I picked up 10 copies. only 5 were 9.8 candidates, and of those only 2 were color. Both came back 9.8 greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithE Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Kinda bummed about this one, thought for sure it would get 9.2 or 9.4, gonna consider pressing it. Grader Notes: Bottom Back Cover small bend, left center back cover finger bends, and finally spine stress lines breaks color. This grade only suffered from the spine issues with DC's super duper premium paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fashion PB and J Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Your graders notes tell me that it isnt going to press up. Finger bends almost ALWAYS break color, and multiple CB stress lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithE Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Your graders notes tell me that it isnt going to press up. Finger bends almost ALWAYS break color, and multiple CB stress lines. Oh okay. I have never sent anything off to be pressed. I have myself just honestly started to really research it, so any advice is appreciated, so thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonetree Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 My first shipment with the new CGC cases: Always confounded by CGC with books that are numbered. Sometimes I get a Blue Label and sometimes a Qualified Label. Wish they were consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWorldOrder Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 My first shipment with the new CGC cases: Always confounded by CGC with books that are numbered. Sometimes I get a Blue Label and sometimes a Qualified Label. Wish they were consistent. Not understanding your frustration with the "green label." It has been pretty obvious for years. That "55" if not green labeled would be in a 8.5/9.0 Blue label if you want them to downgrade for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonetree Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Not understanding your frustration with the "green label." It has been pretty obvious for years. That "55" if not green labeled would be in a 8.5/9.0 Blue label if you want them to downgrade for it. That is exactly my point. Sometimes you get a downgraded blue label and sometimes you get a qualified green label. There is no consistency. CGC needs to choose one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Not understanding your frustration with the "green label." It has been pretty obvious for years. That "55" if not green labeled would be in a 8.5/9.0 Blue label if you want them to downgrade for it. That is exactly my point. Sometimes you get a downgraded blue label and sometimes you get a qualified green label. There is no consistency. CGC needs to choose one way or the other. I think Green Label flaws in general can go Blue or Green depending on the situation. I think CGC tries to give you the best option. In this case, I'm sure they thought a 9.8 Green would be better then a 9.0 Blue (just guessing on the grade). Sounds reasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mschmidt Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Not understanding your frustration with the "green label." It has been pretty obvious for years. That "55" if not green labeled would be in a 8.5/9.0 Blue label if you want them to downgrade for it. That is exactly my point. Sometimes you get a downgraded blue label and sometimes you get a qualified green label. There is no consistency. CGC needs to choose one way or the other. Just because you don't understand the criteria doesn't mean it's not consistent :shrug: If the qualified defect would cause a significant grade drop - green label by default. If the qualified defect doesn't really impact the grade - eg. a missing coupon on a book that's already low grade - blue label by default. The only exception to this is if the submitter specifically requests a blue label on what would otherwise be a high grade qualified book - the book then gets the blue label and the qualified defect causes a significant grade drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nearmint Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Not understanding your frustration with the "green label." It has been pretty obvious for years. That "55" if not green labeled would be in a 8.5/9.0 Blue label if you want them to downgrade for it. That is exactly my point. Sometimes you get a downgraded blue label and sometimes you get a qualified green label. There is no consistency. CGC needs to choose one way or the other. I just scrawl "no green labels" on my invoices, and I never get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Not understanding your frustration with the "green label." It has been pretty obvious for years. That "55" if not green labeled would be in a 8.5/9.0 Blue label if you want them to downgrade for it. That is exactly my point. Sometimes you get a downgraded blue label and sometimes you get a qualified green label. There is no consistency. CGC needs to choose one way or the other. I just scrawl "no green labels" on my invoices, and I never get them. That seems too simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduran1 Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaylam Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Not understanding your frustration with the "green label." It has been pretty obvious for years. That "55" if not green labeled would be in a 8.5/9.0 Blue label if you want them to downgrade for it. That is exactly my point. Sometimes you get a downgraded blue label and sometimes you get a qualified green label. There is no consistency. CGC needs to choose one way or the other. Just because you don't understand the criteria doesn't mean it's not consistent :shrug: If the qualified defect would cause a significant grade drop - green label by default. If the qualified defect doesn't really impact the grade - eg. a missing coupon on a book that's already low grade - blue label by default. The only exception to this is if the submitter specifically requests a blue label on what would otherwise be a high grade qualified book - the book then gets the blue label and the qualified defect causes a significant grade drop. I don't understand why they would qualify a book like this that is designed to be numbered as it is. There is a special place printed on the book for the sole purpose of this numbering. It's ludicrous they would consider the book actually being numbered a qualifying (defect). Every one of them was probably numbered. I just don't get this. If I follow the same logic, then every book in their signature series should get a qualified label too. (Same for date stamps.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitelanthawkeye Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 My first new case! Black Widow Star Sapphire by Tressina Bowling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creamy_dactyl Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Just picked up this bad boy today, got it back after having it signed at Long Beach Expo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecopperagekids Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraclemet Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I don't understand why they would qualify a book like this that is designed to be numbered as it is. There is a special place printed on the book for the sole purpose of this numbering. It's ludicrous they would consider the book actually being numbered a qualifying (defect). Every one of them was probably numbered. I just don't get this. If I follow the same logic, then every book in their signature series should get a qualified label too. (Same for date stamps.) Yellow labels are qualified labels. They just aren't green... (that's why you've never seen a yellow label with a green strip at the top when it is a "qualified signature series book" cause it doesnt exist, it's redundant). I had a book already signed by Gil Kane, which downgraded the book to an 8.5 (if I wanted it to be universal) then I got it signed by people via the Sig Series program, and it came back yellow 8.5 with a note of "name written on front cover" Blank books are designed to be drawn on (just like you said the numbered books are designed to be numbered). Once they are drawn on they are no longer mint. if you drew on one and then sent it in for grading it would either get a green qualified label with a note "drawing on front cover" or get a much lower grade universal label. Only via SS program are signatures and sketches given a non-gree qualified grade (yellow label). If the manufacturing compan, had done the numbering as part of the SS process with witnesses it would have gotten a yellow label. In fact that's not a bad idea for numbered con exclusives. It the signer is both signing and numbering while being witnessed thru the SS program it gets the yellow label if the person wants to sub it. Problem solved. And I think they've been consisitent about this for a long time cause there are old Gen13 green labels for some of their numbered covers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLiamSturgess Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Green/Yellow labels are coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaylam Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I don't understand why they would qualify a book like this that is designed to be numbered as it is. There is a special place printed on the book for the sole purpose of this numbering. It's ludicrous they would consider the book actually being numbered a qualifying (defect). Every one of them was probably numbered. I just don't get this. If I follow the same logic, then every book in their signature series should get a qualified label too. (Same for date stamps.) Yellow labels are qualified labels. They just aren't green... (that's why you've never seen a yellow label with a green strip at the top when it is a "qualified signature series book" cause it doesnt exist, it's redundant). I had a book already signed by Gil Kane, which downgraded the book to an 8.5 (if I wanted it to be universal) then I got it signed by people via the Sig Series program, and it came back yellow 8.5 with a note of "name written on front cover" Blank books are designed to be drawn on (just like you said the numbered books are designed to be numbered). Once they are drawn on they are no longer mint. if you drew on one and then sent it in for grading it would either get a green qualified label with a note "drawing on front cover" or get a much lower grade universal label. Only via SS program are signatures and sketches given a non-gree qualified grade (yellow label). If the manufacturing compan, had done the numbering as part of the SS process with witnesses it would have gotten a yellow label. In fact that's not a bad idea for numbered con exclusives. It the signer is both signing and numbering while being witnessed thru the SS program it gets the yellow label if the person wants to sub it. Problem solved. And I think they've been consisitent about this for a long time cause there are old Gen13 green labels for some of their numbered covers... Interesting point. File that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
