Popular Post Yorick Posted Thursday at 06:27 PM Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 06:27 PM I can handle rusty staples.... Darwination, Mavrick76, grendelbo and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrick76 Posted Thursday at 07:17 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:17 PM On 10/3/2024 at 1:16 PM, pmpknface said: UPDATE I contacted @jstam and this is what he came up with. @Mavrick76 - all yours! This is what the data shows that I pulled. Let me know if you have any on your list that aren't present here and I can research. Kind regards jstam All-Picture Adventure 1 All-Picture All-True Love Story 1 Amazing Ghost Stories 14 Amazing Ghost Stories 15 Amazing Ghost Stories 16 Approved Comics 6 Approved Comics 9 Approved Comics 11 Approved Comics 12 Atomic Comics 3 Authentic Police Cases 7 Authentic Police Cases 8 Authentic Police Cases 9 Authentic Police Cases 10 Authentic Police Cases 11 Authentic Police Cases 12 Authentic Police Cases 13 Authentic Police Cases 14 Authentic Police Cases 15 Authentic Police Cases 16 Authentic Police Cases 17 Authentic Police Cases 18 Authentic Police Cases 19 Authentic Police Cases 22 Authentic Police Cases 23 Authentic Police Cases 24 Authentic Police Cases 27 Authentic Police Cases 28 Authentic Police Cases 29 Authentic Police Cases 31 Authentic Police Cases 32 Authentic Police Cases 33 Authentic Police Cases 34 Authentic Police Cases 35 Authentic Police Cases 37 Authentic Police Cases 38 Blue Ribbon Comics 2 Blue Ribbon Comics 4 Brides Romances 7 Canteen Kate 1 Canteen Kate 2 Canteen Kate 3 Cinderella Love 15 Cinderella Love 25 Cinderella Love 26 Cinderella Love 27 Cinderella Love 28 Cinderella Love 29 Cindrella Love 25 Classic Comics 32 Classics Illustrated 32 Classics Illustrated 32 Crime Reporter 3 Crown Comics 4 Crown Comics 5 Crown Comics 6 Crown Comics 7 Diary Secrets 10 Diary Secrets 11 Diary Secrets 12 Diary Secrets 13 Diary Secrets 14 Diary Secrets 15 Diary Secrets 16 Diary Secrets 17 Diary Secrets 18 Diary Secrets 19 Diary Secrets 20 Diary Secrets 21 Diary Secrets 22 Diary Secrets 23 Diary Secrets 24 Diary Secrets 25 Diary Secrets 26 Diary Secrets 27 Diary Secrets 29 Diary Secrets 30 Diary Secrets nn Exotic Romances 27 Fightin' Marines 3 Fightin' Marines 5 Fightin' Marines 6 Fightin' Marines 7 Fightin' Marines 8 Fightin' Marines 9 Fightin' Marines 12 Fightin' Marines 16 Fightin' Marines 15 (#1) Flashback Golden Age Replica 4 Flyin' Jenny 2 Giant Comics Editions 5 Giant Comics Editions 6 Giant Comics Editions 11 Giant Comics Editions 12 Giant Comics Editions 15 Girls in Love 57 Going Steady 10 Going Steady 11 Going Steady 12 Going Steady 13 Going Steady 14 Haunted Horror 31 Hawk 8 Hawk 9 Hawk 10 Hawk 11 Hawk 12 Hawk 3-D 1 Indians on the Warpath nn Influence 2 Jerry Iger's Golden Features 3 Jo-Jo Comics 25 Jungle Fantasy: Fauna 0 Love Letters 51 Love Secrets 56 Midget Comics 1 Nightmare 13 Northwest Mounties 4 Phantom Lady 13 Phantom Lady 14 Phantom Lady 15 Phantom Lady 16 Phantom Lady 17 Phantom Lady 18 Phantom Lady 19 Phantom Lady 20 Phantom Lady 21 Pictorial Confessions 1 Pictorial Love Stories 1 Pictorial Romances 5 Pictorial Romances 6 Pictorial Romances 8 Pictorial Romances 9 Pictorial Romances 10 Pictorial Romances 11 Pictorial Romances 12 Pictorial Romances 13 Pictorial Romances 14 Pictorial Romances 15 Pictorial Romances 16 Pictorial Romances 17 Pictorial Romances 18 Pictorial Romances 19 Pictorial Romances 20 Pictorial Romances 21 Pictorial Romances 22 Pictorial Romances 23 Pictorial Romances 24 Record Book of Famous Police Cases nn Romance and Confession Stories 1 Romantic Marriage 23 Romantic Marriage 24 Saint 4 Secrets of True Love 1 Seven Seas Comics 4 Seven Seas Comics 5 Seven Seas Comics 6 Slash-D Doublecross nn Teen-Age Diary Secrets 9 Teen-Age Romances 1 Teen-Age Romances 2 Teen-Age Romances 3 Teen-Age Romances 9 Teen-Age Romances 10 Teen-Age Romances 11 Teen-Age Romances 12 Teen-Age Romances 13 Teen-Age Romances 14 Teen-Age Romances 15 Teen-Age Romances 16 Teen-Age Romances 17 Teen-Age Romances 18 Teen-Age Romances 19 Teen-Age Romances 20 Teen-Age Romances 21 Teen-Age Romances 22 Teen-Age Romances 23 Teen-Age Romances 24 Teen-Age Romances 25 Teen-Age Romances 31 Teen-Age Romances 32 Teen-Age Romances 33 Teen-Age Romances 34 Teen-Age Romances 35 Teen-Age Romances 36 Teen-Age Romances 37 Teen-Age Romances 38 Teen-Age Romances 39 Teen-Age Romances 40 Teen-Age Romances 41 Teen-Age Romances 42 Teen-Age Romances 43 Teen-Age Romances 44 Teen-Age Romances 45 Teen-Age Temptations 1 Teen-Age Temptations 2 Teen-Age Temptations 3 Teen-Age Temptations 4 Teen-Age Temptations 5 Teen-Age Temptations 6 Teen-Age Temptations 7 Teen-Age Temptations 8 Teen-Age Temptations 9 Texan 4 Texan 5 Texan 6 Texan 7 Texan 11 Texan 13 Texan 14 Texan 15 True Crime Cases nn True Love Pictorial 2 True Love Pictorial 4 True Love Pictorial 5 True Love Pictorial 6 True Love Pictorial 7 True Love Pictorial 8 True Love Pictorial 9 True Love Pictorial 10 True Love Pictorial 11 Vooda 22 Wartime Romances 1 Wartime Romances 2 Wartime Romances 3 Wartime Romances 4 Wartime Romances 5 Wartime Romances 6 Wartime Romances 7 Wartime Romances 8 Wartime Romances 9 Wartime Romances 10 Wartime Romances 11 Wartime Romances 12 Wartime Romances 13 Wartime Romances 14 Wartime Romances 15 Wartime Romances 16 Wartime Romances 17 Wartime Romances 18 Wedding Bells 15 Weird Love 4 Western Bandit Trails 1 Western Bandit Trails 3 Wild Boy of the Congo 11 Wild Boy of the Congo 13 Wild Boy of the Congo 14 Wild Boy of the Congo 15 Zago 4 Zoot Comics 8 Zoot Comics 14 Thank you both!! Let me cross reference and get back to you. Apologies for delay I’m currently travelling for work. pmpknface and Point Five 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changer Posted Thursday at 07:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:24 PM On 10/3/2024 at 9:18 AM, Point Five said: Here's a Baker request: let's see what everyone's Diary Secrets #22 looks like if you have one to post (I don't). The copies that come up for sale always seem to be in the 1.5-3.0 range. tough series, several DS top out at 6.0-7.0 Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted Thursday at 08:07 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:07 PM On 10/3/2024 at 3:24 PM, Changer said: tough series, several DS top out at 6.0-7.0 For sure! Just seems like #22 in particular has eluded me for years, as compared to the surrounding issues. The two VGish copies posted look great with nice vibrant colors. The ones I see making the rounds usually have lackluster colors, or heavy stains & corner chips etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeath Posted yesterday at 12:21 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:21 AM On 10/3/2024 at 3:24 PM, Changer said: tough series, several DS top out at 6.0-7.0 20 & 21 as well. Both of mine are lowly 2.5s. Highest for those are 7.0 and 6.5 - so definitely a tough series. Never realized this. Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBFan Posted yesterday at 02:34 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:34 AM On 10/3/2024 at 11:51 AM, OtherEric said: Where are you seeing the change in the cover credit on the Zoot 14(a)? The only change away from Baker I'm seeing is on the 3rd sequence. Generally, if you're changing an attribution on the GCD, you need to put a reason in the comments, even if they're only visible when you look at the change logs. The one time I had to go in and undo a change, I made very sure I was able to quote Doc Vassillio (sp?) and JVJ as to the correct artist. On another note, I still miss JVJ. He was such a generous man with his enormous knowledge and skill at artist spotting. The old GCD note regarding Delich and Black is currently found on the ComicBookPlus site, where they state that they use GCD info, but apparently have not kept up with GCD updates. At ComicBookPlus, the credits for their scan of Zoot Comics 14(a) show nothing by Baker, with the note CBP quoted from GCD, ""Artist revision from Matt Baker to ? by Craig Delich 2013-4-21. Bill Black confirms art is not by Baker." If everyone here hasn't seen Zoot 14(a), take a look at ComicBookPlus. Who thinks the cover and art really look like Baker? Mavrick76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBFan Posted yesterday at 02:54 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:54 AM On 10/3/2024 at 11:18 AM, Point Five said: Here's a Baker request: let's see what everyone's Diary Secrets #22 looks like if you have one to post (I don't). The copies that come up for sale always seem to be in the 1.5-3.0 range. Got this from Dale Roberts 8 years ago. He most likely was correct when he said it was a 4.0. OtherEric, pmpknface, Mavrick76 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post comicnoir Posted 22 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 22 hours ago The front cover looks like an 8+, but the bc has a tape pull. Point Five, OtherEric, MBFan and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Love Posted 21 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) On 10/1/2024 at 11:19 PM, comicnoir said: This book came from the collection of 29 Dukedog a former boardie. He seems to have disappeared. Rick. Quite the collection. I believe the Cinderella Love 25 slabbed out at 7.5. Not the one that sold for 60K though. I don't think Joanna has cashed out yet. Hasn't hit the boards in 6 years. Edited 21 hours ago by Dr. Love pmpknface, Yorick, comicnoir and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrick76 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) Attributing comic book art to Matt Baker is tough because there are just too many sources and experts with conflicting views. His style is pretty recognizable (or is it?), but the lack of detailed records, combined with the collaborative nature of the industry back then, makes it hard to pin down what’s definitively his. Everyone seems to have their own take, and without clear documentation, it’s really tricky to get consensus. You almost have to accept that there’s always going to be some debate when it comes to Baker’s work… How do we solve this? 1. Original Source Docs: Dig into publisher records for proof of Baker’s work. 2. AI: Use AI to analyze Baker’s style and compare it to disputed pieces. 3. Social Media: Collect insights from online collectors - in progress With these steps, we can build a comprehensive registry supported by experts. To get auction houses like HA and CGC on board, we need solid, research to support direct attributions, like with Exotic Romances #31, where HA currently lists it as “MB art.” We’re talking about a dozen or so books…. Happy Friday everyone Edited 13 hours ago by Mavrick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago comicjack, Mavrick76 and Changer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTheDuck Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago On 10/4/2024 at 9:35 AM, Ryan. said: The girl on the left looks like Baker to me. grendelbo, Point Five, Darwination and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeath Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago A helpful site I've used for Baker references - https://pencilink.blogspot.com/2009/07/matt-baker-comics-checklist.html grendelbo and Mavrick76 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrick76 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago On 10/4/2024 at 1:15 PM, LadyDeath said: A helpful site I've used for Baker references - https://pencilink.blogspot.com/2009/07/matt-baker-comics-checklist.html Yeah. It’s a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago On 10/4/2024 at 8:59 AM, Mavrick76 said: there’s always going to be some debate perhaps any issue/book with a conflicting attribution you can use a tiered "ranking". Take that last issue posted Love Confessions 54; few believe it is NOT Baker, but most believe it is. Put a single question mark after that title. A book (not sure which one to pick) that the majority believe is NOT by Baker, but perhaps one of two hold-outs believe IS - put three question marks after that title. Make sense? Good idea/bad idea? OtherEric and Changer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changer Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Ultimately Bakers are in the eye of the beholder ..I think some rating for questionable books would be helpful .. but the question is can you quantify that ? Or just notate the differing source/opinions . I don’t think ai is up to it.. and even “experts” can differ on some of his books due to the touch up work he did and aping of his work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmpknface Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago On 10/4/2024 at 2:53 PM, Changer said: Ultimately Bakers are in the eye of the beholder ..I think some rating for questionable books would be helpful .. but the question is can you quantify that ? Or just notate the differing source/opinions . I don’t think ai is up to it.. and even “experts” can differ on some of his books due to the touch up work he did and aping of his work That will be the question when adding it to a registry set. It'll have to be verified somehow in order to be added. You can always start up the set with what had been offered above and then add / remove other books as you get clarification on others. I just noticed an issue that had squeaked into a set by accident and had it removed. If nothing else it helps keep this as clean as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changer Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago On 10/4/2024 at 12:41 PM, pmpknface said: That will be the question when adding it to a registry set. It'll have to be verified somehow in order to be added. You can always start up the set with what had been offered above and then add / remove other books as you get clarification on others. I just noticed an issue that had squeaked into a set by accident and had it removed. If nothing else it helps keep this as clean as possible. So I’ve never done a registry set is it by title or artist or both ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Point Five Posted 5 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 5 hours ago I make fun of these Hawks sometimes, but they're great for a cheap Baker fix. Here's a couple I picked up at the ol' MCS country store. Mavrick76, PeterPark, adamstrange and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Really nice color palettes on these late-period ones. Darwination, Mavrick76 and pmpknface 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...