adamstrange Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The ears are drawn differently between the two. I don't know if it's true of Baker, but many artists will draw the ears the same way to save time. I don't get a strong Baker vibe from the scan of the AP AT LS, though someone could have imitated/swiped from Baker for the man's facial features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The ears are drawn differently between the two. I don't know if it's true of Baker, but many artists will draw the ears the same way to save time. I don't get a strong Baker vibe from the scan of the AP AT LS, though someone could have imitated/swiped from Baker for the man's facial features. That's the thing. I think we are pretty sure that were artists consciously imitating his style. Some work might also have been joint -- although Baker seems to have typically worked alone in his apartment during the St John period, which makes collaboration a bit less likely. One point in favor of its being Baker is that if it's not, it was the only non-Baker line drawn cover on a St John romance book ... or so I read or so somebody said on this thread. I'm inclined to say it's Baker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The ears are drawn differently between the two. I don't know if it's true of Baker, but many artists will draw the ears the same way to save time. I don't get a strong Baker vibe from the scan of the AP AT LS, though someone could have imitated/swiped from Baker for the man's facial features. That's the thing. I think we are pretty sure that were artists consciously imitating his style. Some work might also have been joint -- although Baker seems to have typically worked alone in his apartment during the St John period, which makes collaboration a bit less likely. One point in favor of its being Baker is that if it's not, it was the only non-Baker line drawn cover on a St John romance book ... or so I read or so somebody said on this thread. I'm inclined to say it's Baker. And that strikes me the same way as saying, "Fantastic Four 36 is the only one of the first 100 FF issues not penciled by Jack Kirby". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The ears are drawn differently between the two. I don't know if it's true of Baker, but many artists will draw the ears the same way to save time. I don't get a strong Baker vibe from the scan of the AP AT LS, though someone could have imitated/swiped from Baker for the man's facial features. That's the thing. I think we are pretty sure that were artists consciously imitating his style. Some work might also have been joint -- although Baker seems to have typically worked alone in his apartment during the St John period, which makes collaboration a bit less likely. One point in favor of its being Baker is that if it's not, it was the only non-Baker line drawn cover on a St John romance book ... or so I read or so somebody said on this thread. I'm inclined to say it's Baker. And that strikes me the same way as saying, "Fantastic Four 36 is the only one of the first 100 FF issues not penciled by Jack Kirby". Maybe Jack did do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Based on the fingers on that cover, I'm revising my opinion of the ATAP Love Story #2 to being by Baker... Really? Because, I believe the hands are the least convincing evidence to support APATLS2 being by Baker! (And I'm one of the strongest advocates of Baker's participation in the aforementioned cover.) Well, the faces are similar too, but the fingers are identical. So, maybe two people worked on both covers...It just seems to have the same gestalt on each book... Looking at the womens' left hands, I do see a similarity in the way the fingers overlap. It's the awkward composition of the right hand of the APATLS woman that bothers me most. It's too bad we can't see any thumbs on the hands of the TAR woman, for the purpose of comparison. As for the gestalt, are you sure that's not just an overall similarity of composition and pose? I'm not looking at the ears or the hands or any one thing. I'm looking at the whole picture, and I see on the left a drawing where the faces have life and expression and feeling and a sense of beauty. The one on the right is lifeless, stiff and devoid of expression or any true feeling. I didn't need any book to tell me the one on the right is not Baker. It is a sham and a counterfeit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Based on the fingers on that cover, I'm revising my opinion of the ATAP Love Story #2 to being by Baker... Really? Because, I believe the hands are the least convincing evidence to support APATLS2 being by Baker! (And I'm one of the strongest advocates of Baker's participation in the aforementioned cover.) Well, the faces are similar too, but the fingers are identical. So, maybe two people worked on both covers...It just seems to have the same gestalt on each book... Looking at the womens' left hands, I do see a similarity in the way the fingers overlap. It's the awkward composition of the right hand of the APATLS woman that bothers me most. It's too bad we can't see any thumbs on the hands of the TAR woman, for the purpose of comparison. As for the gestalt, are you sure that's not just an overall similarity of composition and pose? I'm not looking at the ears or the hands or any one thing. I'm looking at the whole picture, and I see on the left a drawing where the faces have life and expression and feeling and a sense of beauty. The one on the right is lifeless, stiff and devoid of expression or any true feeling. I didn't need any book to tell me the one on the right is not Baker. It is a sham and a counterfeit. Don't be shy, man- out with it! What do you really think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Based on the fingers on that cover, I'm revising my opinion of the ATAP Love Story #2 to being by Baker... Really? Because, I believe the hands are the least convincing evidence to support APATLS2 being by Baker! (And I'm one of the strongest advocates of Baker's participation in the aforementioned cover.) Well, the faces are similar too, but the fingers are identical. So, maybe two people worked on both covers...It just seems to have the same gestalt on each book... Looking at the womens' left hands, I do see a similarity in the way the fingers overlap. It's the awkward composition of the right hand of the APATLS woman that bothers me most. It's too bad we can't see any thumbs on the hands of the TAR woman, for the purpose of comparison. As for the gestalt, are you sure that's not just an overall similarity of composition and pose? I'm not looking at the ears or the hands or any one thing. I'm looking at the whole picture, and I see on the left a drawing where the faces have life and expression and feeling and a sense of beauty. The one on the right is lifeless, stiff and devoid of expression or any true feeling. I didn't need any book to tell me the one on the right is not Baker. It is a sham and a counterfeit. Don't be shy, man- out with it! What do you really think? IMHO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 IMHO! The opinion of a professional artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Based on the fingers on that cover, I'm revising my opinion of the ATAP Love Story #2 to being by Baker... Really? Because, I believe the hands are the least convincing evidence to support APATLS2 being by Baker! (And I'm one of the strongest advocates of Baker's participation in the aforementioned cover.) Well, the faces are similar too, but the fingers are identical. So, maybe two people worked on both covers...It just seems to have the same gestalt on each book... Looking at the womens' left hands, I do see a similarity in the way the fingers overlap. It's the awkward composition of the right hand of the APATLS woman that bothers me most. It's too bad we can't see any thumbs on the hands of the TAR woman, for the purpose of comparison. As for the gestalt, are you sure that's not just an overall similarity of composition and pose? I'm not looking at the ears or the hands or any one thing. I'm looking at the whole picture, and I see on the left a drawing where the faces have life and expression and feeling and a sense of beauty. The one on the right is lifeless, stiff and devoid of expression or any true feeling. I didn't need any book to tell me the one on the right is not Baker. It is a sham and a counterfeit. Don't be shy, man- out with it! What do you really think? IMhO! (thumbs u I just think it's great that Baker's work (and even the work of his imitators!) can still illicit such spirited discourse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 IMHO! The opinion of a professional artist Thanks Andy, glad you're here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICK STARR Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Teen. Romances 9 (CGC 5.5) at $1027 on the 'Link and still going. It's not for me but I reckon that book has plenty of room to go further. And further still. Better tighten your belt Rick! No thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Teen. Romances 9 (CGC 5.5) at $1027 on the 'Link and still going. It's not for me but I reckon that book has plenty of room to go further. And further still. Better tighten your belt Rick! Can't wait to see the fireworks on the Cinderella. I think the fact that it's not doing the traditional 95% runup in the first 2 hours is very auspicious. And you certainly gave the world a chance to take it off the table well before this, Michael. I've never been so willing to see a book sail clean out of sight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Teen. Romances 9 (CGC 5.5) at $1027 on the 'Link and still going. It's not for me but I reckon that book has plenty of room to go further. And further still. Better tighten your belt Rick! Can't wait to see the fireworks on the Cinderella. I think the fact that it's not doing the traditional 95% runup in the first 2 hours is very auspicious. And you certainly gave the world a chance to take it off the table well before this, Michael. I've never been so willing to see a book sail clean out of sight! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-Gun Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmpknface Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Baker group shot! WOOHOO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I think I'll do one of those too, that looks like fun...stay tuned. So, how high do you guys think that CL25 will go? I already have mine, so the higher the better. See, collecting is a two-edged sword...I want to buy low, but i like seeing the value of MY books escalate...is that hypocritical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inaflash Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I think I'll do one of those too, that looks like fun...stay tuned. So, how high do you guys think that CL25 will go? I already have mine, so the higher the better. See, collecting is a two-edged sword...I want to buy low, but i like seeing the value of MY books escalate...is that hypocritical? It's not hypocritical if that's what everybody wants. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 One more book and I'll have True Love Pictorial 2-11. I'll set up another group shot, then. I think the CL 25 might even approach 2k. On eBay last year, a CGC 6.0 went for $2100. (am I remembering right?). This one's a half a grade lower, but I think there's going to be so much competition that it will set a new record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29dukedog Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Somebody call the cops, that 48 year old insurance salesman is abducting that teen-age girl... (but she doesn't seem to mind... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICK STARR Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Good lord, dude. Those all look to be very "decent" copies. Sweeeeeetttt!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
