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Are there any keys here?

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Point Five

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Maybe then it's either the start of indy comics, or dazzler #1, the start of direct market. the other books seem like less of 'events' and more of just calling out cool books from around the time.

 

so go ahead- add Dazzler #1 as a key Copper book! It's just like Showcase #4!

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joe_collector

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Maybe then it's either the start of indy comics, or dazzler #1, the start of direct market. the other books seem like less of 'events' and more of just calling out cool books from around the time.

 

No, I think that elevating Miller and Byrne for full writing/art duties signifies a major shift in the ideology at Marvel and the real beginning of the comic book as rock star movement that took off in the 80's.

 

And Days of Future Past is notable for being Claremont and Byrne's swan song, after Byrne was ticked at Shooter for killing off Phoenix, and it not only signified the end of that tandem, but was also the lynch pin for a decade's more X-tales.

 

But I do agree that the start of the Indies and the rise of the DM are more elemental.

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sckao

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Copper Age Keys 1981-1992?

 

Not necessarily high worth for some of these...

 

1981

Avengers Annual 10

Daredevil 168

Dazzler 1 (Start of Copper Age? Start of Direct Age?)

Love and Rockets 1

Nexus 1

X-men 141-142 (Days of Future Past), 143 (X-men title change)

 

1982

Daredevil 181

Marvel Contest of Champions (1st Marvel limited series)

PPSS 64 (Cloak and Dagger)

Wolverine LS

 

1983

Amazing Spider-man 238

Omega Men 3 (First Lobo)

Thor 337

 

1984 - Start of Copper Age according to Geppi and his museum

Albedo 2

Amazing Spider-man 252

GI Joe 21

Secret Wars 8

Swamp Thing 20, 21

Tales of the Teen Titans 44 (First Nightwing)

TMNT 1

 

1985

Crisis on Infinite Earths 7, 8

Swamp Thing 37

 

1986

Action Comics 583

Captain America Annual 8

Dark Horse Presents 1 (First Concrete)

Dark Knight Returns 1

Man of Steel 1 (Byrne Superman Reboot)

Punisher Limited Series 1

Watchmen 1

Superman 423

Star Wars 107

 

1987

Batman 404-407 Year One

 

1988

Amazing Spider-man 300

Batman: The Killing Joke

Incredible Hulk 340

Miracleman 15

Wolverine 1

 

1989

Cry for Dawn 1

Sandman 1, 8

Wolverine 10

 

1990

New Mutants 87

X-men 266

 

1991

Bone 1

Dark Horse Presents Fifth Anniversary Special (First Sin City)

New Mutants 98

 

1992

Harbinger 1

 

MISC NOT IN CA:

 

Hellboy's first appearance (Comic-Con Comics #2, Next Men 21) 1993

Preacher 1 1995

 

 

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SuperBird

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alright hen, if you are talking the start of the rise of the independent publishers and distribution, that might be Nexus #1 from Capitol Comics, which was the incentive for Pacific Comics to start publishing comics as well.

 

This way we can combine distribution (Dazzler) and Indy comics into 1 book. I kind of like the idea of Nexus 1 being a key in that way, cause it's a rockin' book, still in some demand, hard to find, and even harder in high grade.

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joe_collector

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nope. it was oversized, though, like TMNT 1-4. Are those considered magazines?

 

Good question - are TMNT the *exact* dimensions of Nexus or smaller?

 

I still say Pacific offered the first line of independent comics, by King Kirby no less, and this means a lot more than a short-run of B&W magazine-size books.

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nope. it was oversized, though, like TMNT 1-4. Are those considered magazines?

 

Good question - are TMNT the *exact* dimensions of Nexus or smaller?

 

I think Nexus is magazine sized... larger (or rather, wider) than TMNT's odd dimensions.

 

th_TMNT-1.jpg th_Nexus-2.jpg

 

That's the 1981 magazine. The 1983 comic series was smaller.

 

 

 

 

 

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what determines if something is a magazine or not, anyway?

 

If it's magazine-sized. Once you reach those dimensions, it's no longer an off-sized comic book.

 

not to be dense, but what dimension is that? Is it set in stone someplace?

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I just checked comics.org and it lists Nexus as "B&W magazine format", while TMNT is listed as "standard B&W".

 

And does it really matter, if TMNT is deemed "magazine sized" it's the still the Turtle's first appearance, and doesn't change the magazine dimensions or format of Nexus.

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Here are a few more keys. Some are questionable.

 

Creatures of Id (1990) - 1st Madman

Caliber Presents #1 (1989) - 1st Crow

Men In Black #1 (1990)

Megaton Explosion (1987) 1st Youngblood

Evil Ernie #1 (1991) - 1st Evil Ernie and Lady Death

Primer #2 (1982) - 1st Grendel

Flaming Carrot #1 (1981)

Gobbledygook 1 & 2 (1984)

Akira #1 (1988)

Macross #1 (1984)

Marvel Graphic Novel #1 (1982) - Death of Captain Marvel

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joe_collector

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What about Marvel Fanfare #1 from March 1982?

 

It was a HUGE title and very innovative for the time, new format, better paper, ad-free, creator bonuses, extremely high initial sales, etc.

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Copper Age Keys 1981-1992

 

Not necessarily high worth for some of these. These are keys or notable comics.

 

1981

Avengers Annual 10 (First Rogue)

Daredevil 168 (First Elektra)

Dazzler 1 (Start of Copper Age? Start of Direct Age?)

Flaming Carrot 1

Love and Rockets 1

Nexus 1

X-men 141-142 (Days of Future Past), 143 (X-men title change)

 

1982

Daredevil 181 (Death of Elektra)

Marvel Contest of Champions (1st Marvel limited series)

Marvel Fanfare 1

Marvel Graphic Novel 1 (Death of Captain Marvel)

PPSS 64 (Cloak and Dagger)

Primer 2 (First Grendel)

Wolverine LS

 

1983

Amazing Spider-man 238

Omega Men 3 (First Lobo)

Thor 337

 

1984 - Start of Copper Age according to Geppi and his museum

Albedo 2

Amazing Spider-man 252

GI Joe 21

Gobbledygook 1, 2

Macross 1

Secret Wars 8

Swamp Thing 20, 21

Tales of the Teen Titans 44 (First Nightwing)

TMNT 1

 

1985

Crisis on Infinite Earths 7, 8

Swamp Thing 37 (First Constantine)

 

1986

Action Comics 583

Captain America Annual 8

Dark Horse Presents 1 (First Concrete)

Dark Knight Returns 1

Man of Steel 1 (Byrne Superman Reboot)

Punisher Limited Series 1

Watchmen 1

Superman 423

Star Wars 107

 

1987

Batman 404-407 Year One

Megaton Explosion (First Youngblood)

Spider-man Annual 21 (Peter Parker marries MJ)

 

1988

Akira 1

Amazing Spider-man 300

Batman: The Killing Joke

Batman: A Death in the Family 426-429 (Jason Todd dies)

Incredible Hulk 340

Miracleman 15

Wolverine 1

 

1989

Caliber Presents 1 (First Crow)

Cry for Dawn 1

Sandman 1, 8

Wolverine 10

 

1990

Creatures of Id (1st Madman)

Men in Black 1

New Mutants 87 (First Cable)

Spider-man 1

X-men 266 (First Gambit)

 

1991

Bone 1

Dark Horse Presents Fifth Anniversary Special (First Sin City)

Evil Ernie 1 (First Evil Ernie and Lady Death)

Magnus, Robot Fighter 1 (First Valiant comic released. Continuation of Gold Key characters.)

New Mutants 98 (First Deadpool)

 

1992

Harbinger 1 (First original Valiant comic)

Solar 10 (First Eternal Warrior, all black cover)

Spawn 1

Superman 75 (Death of Superman)

 

MISC NOT IN CA:

 

Hellboy's first appearance (Comic-Con Comics #2, Next Men 21) 1993

Preacher 1 1995

 

 

Feel free to add to/modify this list... I created it to get us all on the same page. (thumbs u

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