How does Marvel justify cancelling Ultimate X-Men?

[DKB]

What Ultimate X-men suffered from was new-character-itis. There are so many cool X-men out there that have been written and developed over the last 45 years, the pressure to include them in the Ultimate book was probably great. So you've got too many characters getting face time.

 

Then the book was written like a Spidey book. All the characters had to have their own personal drama. Spidey has lots of personal drama, and its great, and he's also the only guy having drama in his books. 15 characters all dealing with that sort of stuff in a book is impossible to follow.

 

Imagine the first 75 issues of the first X-men, but with the Uncanny cast in there too, along with some New Mutants, and imagine that in all that we had to deal with some gayness here, some deep depression there, loves lost and gained, etc etc. Ugh.

 

I read arc by arc, and one arc would finish, I'd start reading, and I'd realize I didn't have even a bit of a clue as to what was going on. I'd have to reread the previous 12 issues to refresh. Each individual story was enjoyable, but the tapestry being woven together looked like poo.

[whetteon]

Its homophobia...

a Gay Colossus prominetly displayed..

 

Name any ongoing series marvel has where a gay character in a relationship that has lasted

Colossus is gay too? I thought the Angel was the gay X-Man.

I heard Wolverine is going to come out of the closet too

 

Angel in the series 1602 was gay

 

in ultimate Xmen Colossus is gay

Northstar Natch

 

And hints at Nighrcrawler being gay

You just crossed the line

 

Wasn't Nightcrawler originally planned to be the son of Mystique and Destiny, both woman?

[kidcolt]

I have not really followed Ultimate X but I have followed USM. I am glad they are not cancelling that title, its still a good fun read.

[cd4ever]

Its homophobia...

a Gay Colossus prominetly displayed..

 

Name any ongoing series marvel has where a gay character in a relationship that has lasted

Colossus is gay too? I thought the Angel was the gay X-Man.

I heard Wolverine is going to come out of the closet too

 

Angel in the series 1602 was gay

 

in ultimate Xmen Colossus is gay

Northstar Natch

 

And hints at Nighrcrawler being gay

You just crossed the line

 

Maybe they should just call it Y-Men.

[jordanscott]

Its homophobia...

a Gay Colossus prominetly displayed..

 

Name any ongoing series marvel has where a gay character in a relationship that has lasted

Colossus is gay too? I thought the Angel was the gay X-Man.

I heard Wolverine is going to come out of the closet too

 

Angel in the series 1602 was gay

 

in ultimate Xmen Colossus is gay

Northstar Natch

 

And hints at Nighrcrawler being gay

You just crossed the line

 

Maybe they should just call it Y-Men.

 

Launcing in February 2009 from Marvel Comics:

 

'Ultimate Where the Girls Aren't' featuring all your favorite super heroes in situations you've never seen before!

[Marvelguy34]

Its homophobia...

a Gay Colossus prominetly displayed..

 

Name any ongoing series marvel has where a gay character in a relationship that has lasted

Colossus is gay too? I thought the Angel was the gay X-Man.

I heard Wolverine is going to come out of the closet too

 

Angel in the series 1602 was gay

 

in ultimate Xmen Colossus is gay

Northstar Natch

 

And hints at Nighrcrawler being gay

You just crossed the line

 

Sorry to break the news, it was hinted at. I can't remember what issue that was.

[followtheleader]

Its homophobia...

a Gay Colossus prominetly displayed..

 

Name any ongoing series marvel has where a gay character in a relationship that has lasted

 

Authority. Wasn't unsuccessful because of Apollo and Midnighter being gay. It's because it's impossible to follow-up on Ellis & Millar's works.

 

I'm a huge X-men fan and this series was largely a disappointment the whole way through. It's almost a replica of the regular universe. Even the vaunted Kirkman couldn't do much with it. They really needed to depart from 616 and failed to do that.

 

Ultimate FF has really slouched off lately too. Personally, I liked it for quite awhile. Again, the great Ellis was on the book. I even liked the whole Thanos storyline (though the coloring was a bit poor and it could be a bit confusing at times).

 

I'm surprised that anyone else is surprised. Wasn't this the point of Ultimatum?

 

Pat

[Chi Bamm]

Its homophobia...

a Gay Colossus prominetly displayed..

 

Name any ongoing series marvel has where a gay character in a relationship that has lasted

 

Authority. Wasn't unsuccessful because of Apollo and Midnighter being gay. It's because it's impossible to follow-up on Ellis & Millar's works.

 

I'm a huge X-men fan and this series was largely a disappointment the whole way through. It's almost a replica of the regular universe. Even the vaunted Kirkman couldn't do much with it. They really needed to depart from 616 and failed to do that.

 

Ultimate FF has really slouched off lately too. Personally, I liked it for quite awhile. Again, the great Ellis was on the book. I even liked the whole Thanos storyline (though the coloring was a bit poor and it could be a bit confusing at times).

 

I'm surprised that anyone else is surprised. Wasn't this the point of Ultimatum?

 

Pat

 

So what is going to be left after Ultimatum? Just USM and the Ultimates?

[followtheleader]

Probably just USM.

 

I'm sure if any opportunity presented itself, they would do more books for it.

 

The annual will probably be something they continue. Personally, I think the annuals have been the best part of the universe the last couple years.

 

Ultimates is hard to say. I don't think Mad/Loeb's version of Ultimates was all that well received. If Millar wanted to do it, I'm sure they'd happily agree. Otherwise, I bet it will sit for awhile.

 

Pat

[Kevin Boyd]

Probably just USM.

 

I'm sure if any opportunity presented itself, they would do more books for it.

 

The annual will probably be something they continue. Personally, I think the annuals have been the best part of the universe the last couple years.

 

Ultimates is hard to say. I don't think Mad/Loeb's version of Ultimates was all that well received. If Millar wanted to do it, I'm sure they'd happily agree. Otherwise, I bet it will sit for awhile.

 

Pat

 

Alas, Ultimate Avengers is on the horizon - for release sometime in 2009. Carlos Pacheco has been said to be the artist.

[Chi Bamm]

You're right about the Annuals. I remember buying the first batch when they came out thinking, "Who makes and/or buys annuals anymore?" But, they were so freaking good. The first UFF annual was the best IMHO.