toitle Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) Deleted the email exchange, figured it is a bit personal. In short, the dude says Kevin handed him that copy himself. Edited November 24, 2010 by sessnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon_Turtle Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Which brings me to this point. Do you think somehow (even if what the dude said wasn't true), that either Kevin or Peter (or both) somehow contributed to the fakes being created? It seems a lot harder to create those because a photocopy would do a crappy job. Then, you would have to print on the same paper/size as well, maybe use the exact same printer etc? What do you think? Not a chance. Because they had a relationship with the original printer, there would be no reason for them to make counterfeits (should they have wanted to be shady). They wouldn't go through the trouble of making new books with slight variations when they could just as easily just made more "first print" issues using the original printer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toitle Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 True. Makes a ton of sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanj Mitra Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 (edited) I keep tabs on the TMNT market on eBay, as I sell a few TMNT books on there often as of late. Including my Full RUN of Vol. 1 Anyways, figured I'd point out a few interesting auctions. Off of recent topic, but I believe this #1 COUNTERFEIT COPY ? , on ebay. He was originally asking $3000. For some reason he has jumped the price to $3,300 Awhile back I had asked about the legitimacy of this book and asked for more pictures. The short, and rude response confirmed it for me. 9.0 sold for $1,800+ 9.2 currently 0 bids @ $1,500 8.0 #4 misprint UNDER $30 Ungraded Misprint close to $150 ?? I sold about 6 of those on ebay. Highest sale was $110. Lowest $65 Was there any useful information in his response or was it all rude? I had the same thought (that it was a counterfeit), and I've been looking for one, but it's priced too high. I'm not sure if you've got a question about the other auctions you posted. I have been following the 9.2 on Ebay as I was thinking taking a stab. No feedback, no one is bidding and this fellow did not respond to my request for clearer pictures of the label and comic. I think I am going to pass... Edited November 28, 2010 by Sanj Mitra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keldog Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 This will cheer you up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanj Mitra Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogglekng Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 (edited) This will cheer you up... I think they already did that one.. Edited November 29, 2010 by bogglekng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keldog Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 This will cheer you up... I think they already did that one.. I guess they did . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260695157813&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT 9.2 went for nearly $2,400 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toitle Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260695157813&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT 9.2 went for nearly $2,400 ! Which is a steal. I bid like $2303, and if I didn't bid the winner would have got it for $2,000. Too bad I'm short on cash, I really wanted it and, I'm sure it's worth way more. If anyone has that GPA(?) thing you can check the value. I'm guessing it's around $2,800+ -Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mschmidt Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260695157813&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT 9.2 went for nearly $2,400 ! Which is a steal. I bid like $2303, and if I didn't bid the winner would have got it for $2,000. Too bad I'm short on cash, I really wanted it and, I'm sure it's worth way more. If anyone has that GPA(?) thing you can check the value. I'm guessing it's around $2,800+ -Pete GPA is right around $2,300-2,400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberjad Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260695157813&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT 9.2 went for nearly $2,400 ! Which is a steal. I bid like $2303, and if I didn't bid the winner would have got it for $2,000. Too bad I'm short on cash, I really wanted it and, I'm sure it's worth way more. If anyone has that GPA(?) thing you can check the value. I'm guessing it's around $2,800+ -Pete GPA is right around $2,300-2,400. One copy did sell about a year or 2 ago in the 2800 range. Either way nice book for $2400. Congrats to the winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whetteon Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Actually that's about the right price according to GPA. in 2008 one went for $2,382 in 2007 one went for $2,500 in 2005 one went for $2,850 If anything the price is slowly declining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Something I've been curious about for a while... Why does this book list the first appearance, origin, and "death" of the Turtlenator (a very minor TMNT character overall) When this one doesn't even list April O'Neil (a major character) or Baxter Stockman (granted not very major in Volume 1, but hugely impactful throughout the TMNT universe): It seems like the appearance notations on TMNT slabs are a bit lacking. However, if the books aren't submitted regularly and the knowledge isn't as common as, say, Spider-man characters, then how is CGC to know? I think from here on out, when I submit a TMNT book with a notable first appearance, I'll be sure to note it on the invoice. Now I just need to know which ones I'm missing. People here can help me do a little research, feel free to list it here. I'll be sure to note the appearances on the labels if I resubmit any existing slabs, too. April O'Neil - TMNT #2 - Major Character Baxter Stockman - TMNT #2 - Definitely a noteworthy character (more so than the Mousers, I'd say) Klunk (Mikey's cat) - Michaelangelo 1-shot - Laugh if you want, but Klunk really helped to define Mikey's character, especially in his first and last appearances. Leatherhead - Tales of the TMNT #6 - a recurring character very much tied to the core story of the Turtles. Karai - TMNT # (Sometime during the City at War storyline, I'll have to check) - A recurring role from City at War pretty well on to the end of the series. There are plenty of others. If you think a TMNT character/event is important enough to be listed on the CGC label, put the character/event and the issue here. I'd appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mschmidt Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 April O'Neil - TMNT #2 - Major Character Baxter Stockman - TMNT #2 - Definitely a noteworthy character (more so than the Mousers, I'd say) Klunk (Mikey's cat) - Michaelangelo 1-shot - Laugh if you want, but Klunk really helped to define Mikey's character, especially in his first and last appearances. Leatherhead - Tales of the TMNT #6 - a recurring character very much tied to the core story of the Turtles. Karai - TMNT # (Sometime during the City at War storyline, I'll have to check) - A recurring role from City at War pretty well on to the end of the series. I've had good luck sending label notes like that straight to Gemma - she verifies them, and if they're correct, they usually end up as the new standard going forward ... I think CGC in general is grateful for any label input that we give them - especially in regards to indie books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Thanks, Michael. I'll keep that in mind. I'll likely have a mid-sized TMNT submission around the first of the year and I'll be sure to send a PM along with notes on the invoice. The first volume of Tales of the TMNT (7 issues) are riddled with first appearances. Rat King, Leatherhead, Nobody, Radical, Complete Carnage, etc. The only thing I want to be careful about is making sure I have the facts straight. For example, I don't know off the top of my head if Savanti Romero's first appearance is TMNT #8 or Tales of the TMNT #7. Plus, there are tons of random appearances in other books and I don't want to miss any and have a Next Men #21/SDCC #2 style debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bogglekng Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 If it does help, I will add notes to my submissions.. when I get around to them. good idea Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icculus308win Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Very good idea guys! Job well done!! (now I will have to get a couple books reholdered) It has always eluded me why April and Baxter never were on a #2's label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Need a bit of advice guys. I have a very nice 3rd print of TMNT 1. I'd have to double check but I believe it would grade out at least 9.2 if not higher. If that's the case, do you think it would be worth slabbing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proventheory-migration Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Need a bit of advice guys. I have a very nice 3rd print of TMNT 1. I'd have to double check but I believe it would grade out at least 9.2 if not higher. If that's the case, do you think it would be worth slabbing? if it will make you happy then do it. investment wise, i wouldnt, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...