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Where are the Nine MPWF #1 copies Today?
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Crowzilla

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So, here's some updated information combining this thread's information, Heritage Auction House archives & the CGC census:...

Ninth issue ?

1...........???...........................???............................???

History of The Ninth Suspected:

I have heard this came because a former owner(?) of a movie theater in the Boston area claims to remember seeing a Motion Picture Funnies Weekly, so it was suspected/expected to sometime turn up, "possible distribution"(?), but has never done so to my knowledge.

 

I think you can safely ink in the incomplete former Overstreet copy for #9.

What we would be looking for now is a suspected 10th issue.

 

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Forbush-Man

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So, here's some updated information combining this thread's information, Heritage Auction House archives & the CGC census:...

Ninth issue ?

1...........???...........................???............................???

History of The Ninth Suspected:

I have heard this came because a former owner(?) of a movie theater in the Boston area claims to remember seeing a Motion Picture Funnies Weekly, so it was suspected/expected to sometime turn up, "possible distribution"(?), but has never done so to my knowledge.

 

I think you can safely ink in the incomplete former Overstreet copy for #9.

What we would be looking for now is a suspected 10th issue.

 

You are correct. It does get a little confusing, especially when you go back to older Overstreet's and get different counts. By my last account there were 8 found along with one coverless copy, a ninth suspected. Then the Pay Copy which makes 9 with one coverless copy and one suspected. Anybody care to chime in?

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Forbush-Man

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Updated once again....

 

So, here's some updated information combining this thread's information, Heritage Auction House archives & the CGC census & from known owners:

 

Motion Picture Funnies Weekly #1

 

CGC Graded Universal Label Unrestored.........................................Sold for on:

1..........9.0 Cream to off-white pages "Pay Copy"......$43,125.00 10/15/2005

1..........7.0 Light tan to off-white pages........................$20,700.00 7/7/2002

1..........5.5 (esquirecomics) Slightly brittle pages.......$20,315.00 2/27/2009

1..........5.0 Slightly brittle pages.................................????..........?/?/????

 

CGC Graded Restored Label

1..........7.5

1..........4.0 (MP) Brittle pages......................................$11,352.50 5/23/2008

 

Raw that we know of:

1..........7.5 (FUELMAN's) (MP) Light tan pages...........$12,000.00* 9-10/2000

.......................* included covers 2-4

1..........8.0 (jbcomicbox) tanning halo, 3/4" spine split .......$10,000.00 9/1993

.....................possible restoration above top staple.

 

Ninth, Raw Unknown Issue

1...........raw...........................???.....................................???

 

 

Covers to 2-4 average over 4 sales shown on Hertiage $924.18

Esquire Comics has sold 2 sets since 2008 for $1,200.00 each

This would bring the average price realized for 6 sets to $1,016.12 per set

Estimated between 20-30 sets exist(?)

 

 

History of The 9th Suspected (Now the 10th Suspected?):

 

I have heard this came about due to a former movie theater owner in the Boston area claiming to remember seeing a Motion Picture Funnies Weekly, so it became suspected, "possible distribution"(?), but has not turned up to date.

 

Overstreet #38, 2008 Edition

 

"Note: Eight copies (plus one coverless) were discovered in 1974 in the estate of the deceased publisher. Covers only to issues No.2-4 were also found which evidently were printed in advance along with #1.#1 was to be distributed only through motion picture movie houses. However, it is believed that only advanced copies were sent out and the motion picture houses not going for the idea. Possible distribution at local theaters in Boston suspected. The "Pay Copy" (graded at 9.0) was discovered after 1974, bringing the total known to nine. The last panel of Sub-Mariner contains a rectangular box with "Continued next week" printed in it. When reprinted in Marvel Mystery, the box was left in with lettering omitted. "

 

Additional information from Artifact.com Lot 211 from 1999.

 

"Description:

 

1939, Publisher Unlisted, the first and only number, with the covers to Nos. 2-4, original and first appearance of Sub-Mariner by Bill Everett, later reprinted in Marvel Comics No. 1, interior pages are black and white, OWL paper is 7.5 to 8; with very limited restoration to spine by William Sarill, encased within a "Fortress" system; A.C.G. apparent fine plus - 72. (4 pieces) Bob Overstreet notes in his Price Guide that this comic is (rare) with only 8 known copies, and only one near mint with white pages. This copy must be the higher grade copy that Overstreet refers to because the consignor is the original discoverer of this rare find, and saved his final copy to sell(the copy offered here) as the highest ranked condition copy. It should be noted that William Sarill did very slight touch up work to all eight copies from this discovery, therefore they are all slightly restored copies."

 

Link to ArtiFact.com web page

 

 

 

 

 

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Forbush-Man

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Is there anyone from CGC who could tell us the notes/page quality for these two graded books?

 

CGC Graded Universal Unrestored Label

1..........5.0

 

CGC Graded Restored Label

1..........7.5

 

 

:wishluck::popcorn:

 

 

 

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esquirecomics

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Is there anyone from CGC who could tell us the notes/page quality for these two graded books?

 

CGC Graded Universal Unrestored Label

1..........5.0

 

slightly brittle

 

It was up for auction on Heritage in 2007 but didn't sell. I remember it had a reserve price of about $32k.

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Forbush-Man

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Is there anyone from CGC who could tell us the notes/page quality for these two graded books?

 

CGC Graded Universal Unrestored Label

1..........5.0

 

slightly brittle

 

It was up for auction on Heritage in 2007 but didn't sell. I remember it had a reserve price of about $32k.

 

 

(thumbs u

 

 

 

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Forbush-Man

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Neither RareHighGrade or Matt Nelson own a copy.

 

Mark- PuLeeze!

 

 

"Neither RareHIghGrade nor Matt Nelson own a copy.

 

 

jb

 

You tell him, Jon!

 

 

:gossip: .....and tell him the title's supposed to be MPFW #1 and not MPWF #1. doh!

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G.A.tor

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I own 3 copies (shrug)

 

Liar, liar pants on fire.

 

 

How do I know? You do not know the 'secret handshake' that we proud owners know. jb

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

of the 2,3 and 4 covers lol

lol , you missed my "2-4" covers bait and switch

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esquirecomics

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Neither RareHighGrade or Matt Nelson own a copy.

 

Mark- PuLeeze!

 

 

"Neither RareHIghGrade nor Matt Nelson own a copy.

 

 

jb

 

You tell him, Jon!

 

 

:gossip: .....and tell him the title's supposed to be MPFW #1 and not MPWF #1. doh!

 

Oy, I keep doing that too. doh!

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Sal

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Neither RareHighGrade or Matt Nelson own a copy.

 

Mark- PuLeeze!

 

 

"Neither RareHIghGrade nor Matt Nelson own a copy.

 

 

jb

 

You tell him, Jon!

 

 

:gossip: .....and tell him the title's supposed to be MPFW #1 and not MPWF #1. doh!

 

Oy, I keep doing that too. doh!

 

at least you refrained from calling the book "illusive."

 

 

:baiting:

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esquirecomics

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Neither RareHighGrade or Matt Nelson own a copy.

 

Mark- PuLeeze!

 

 

"Neither RareHIghGrade nor Matt Nelson own a copy.

 

 

jb

 

You tell him, Jon!

 

 

:gossip: .....and tell him the title's supposed to be MPFW #1 and not MPWF #1. doh!

 

Oy, I keep doing that too. doh!

 

at least you refrained from calling the book "illusive."

 

 

:baiting:

 

Yet another thing I will never live down. doh!lol

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thecollectron

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I also find this book's history interesting. I remember what a big deal it was when they were discovered, and then I noticed over the years how the number of copies cited in the Guide slowly and mysteriously increased. Did more turn up, or did the original finder neglect to count how many there were? Whatever became of the one that's missing six pages?

By the way, I have the coverless copy. Does that mean there are ten with an eleventh suspected?

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