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The Unofficial Underground Comix thread...
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dannyboycheapyboy

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There appear to be a lot of oddball titles out there, aside from those that you mentioned. I haven't actively collected these, nor am I aware of any particular guide that lists them, which is a shame.

 

Here's one that sold on eBay recently. I had never seen this before and was tempted to bid but forgot.

 

Heavy Sex Comix:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-HEAVY-SEX-COMIX-MENS-ADULT-RISQUE-MAGAZINE-HIGH-GRADE-NUMBER-1-RARE-/381669435382

 

Some (SOME, I said) of the art in that one is a cut above what is expected in these early sex comics.

 

That's some pretty interesting material. For $15, I would have also tried picked it up!

 

Bigger question: if the print runs were limited, why wouldn't books like these be considered UG comix? These publications:

 

1) published in a comic format;

2) contain an UG subject, hard-core sex, probably to the point of probably being prohibited at the time and usually required secret publishing/authorship;

3) pushed boundaries;

4) had a do-it-yourself attitude, where if you felt strongly enough about publishing something you could, since the standards for art or writing weren't exactly high;

5) were not meant to be taken seriously, but instead spoofed a naughty aspect of our lives;

6) had a golden age in 70s.

 

What's the difference between these materials and accepted UGs like "Blown Away", "Paper P*ssy" or "Good Jive Comix"?

 

Is it just because they were sold in porn shops (I assume) instead of head shops?

 

I forget who made the comment (pity), but I was reading a quote from a well known UG (publisher, artist or collector), where they did not consider Cherry Poptart as a true UG.

 

That person did not give its later publication date as the reason, but because other than the first issue, (in their opinion) the series was mainly commercially developed to make money. Is that the guiding rule? If the entire series was published in the 70s, I would consider it an UG pub.

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If Jay Kennedy had acknowledged this material in his book, which so many (including myself) regard as the underground comix bible, we may not be having this conversation right now. The reason, I've been told, as to why Kennedy didn't acknowledge it is because it had no artistic merit, or some such thing.

 

Why, then, did he make exceptions for publications such as Blown Away? Was it because the majority of what the responsible party (Roger May) was doing wasn't "meritless porn," thus giving him a free pass for a fringe publication for the sake of being complete in his documentation? And, if I'm not mistaken, he also listed some Tijuana Bible-inspired minis by Randy Crawford, not to mention Pure Sex Comix by Tom Brinkmann.

 

It would be nice to see someone set forth and thoroughly document these oft overlooked comix!

 

I've wanted to do this myself, but with my focus being on British (and other foreign) undergrounds, there just aren't enough hours in the day, as the saying goes.

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[i've got something similar, but it's marijuana related, as opposed to acid. It's entitled The Marijuana Consumer's and Dealer's Guide, yellow illustrated cover, but no real art inside. Also have a few issues of Marijuana Monthly. I would occasionally pick these things up when buying undergrounds, but I was never really trying to collect them.

 

Hey Joe,

 

you left out the best part. Your pamphlet was written by "Mary Jane Superweed" and published by the "Stone Kingdom Syndicate" of California. I would buy one!

 

Yep, that's the one. Unfortunately my copy has rusty staples. Someone spilled some bong water at some point? (shrug)

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There are some unbelievable original art pieces listed on Heritage right now. OA from Robert Williams, R Crumb, Gilbert Shelton, Dave Sheridan, Gary Hallgren, Victor Moscoso, Jay Lynch, Skip Williamson, and Rand Holmes. All from the Eric Sack collection. Most of what is listed is by R Crumb.

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50 Cent #II (1st)

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There are some unbelievable original art pieces listed on Heritage right now. OA from Robert Williams, R Crumb, Gilbert Shelton, Dave Sheridan, Gary Hallgren, Victor Moscoso, Jay Lynch, Skip Williamson, and Rand Holmes. All from the Eric Sack collection. Most of what is listed is by R Crumb.

 

Really impressive collection, anyone know who Sack is? Wasn't there someone on the old forums called "Lines on Paper"?

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Hello ripb,

 

I really do not know how to post images on this forum. I also do not own a scanner and would have to use the one at work - a bit of a pain for me.

 

I will instead provide links to examples that are currently available on-line:

 

3) Bizarre Comix (1970s-1980s) is essentially a 24 volume, reprint anthology of bondage comics from the 50s-60s. Mainly highlighting the work of Nutrix comics and Eric Stanton. A little weird and tame by today's standards, but definitely had an influence on S. Clay Wilson - Domatrix pirates etc. I believe the first 8 volumes had more than one printing.

 

https://www.google.ca/search?q=bizarre+comix+belier&biw=2102&bih=957&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD8tmOp_3OAhUM54MKHatGD5cQsAQIMg&dpr=0.65

 

6) Randy Crawford's Nice Day Publications, I assume grew from Crawford's Kennedy listed works: Archie, Conan sex parodies and Nice Day Comix (1974). He seemed to publish dozens of sex related digests in the 80s-90s, under his Nice Day/Lil'/Dirty Comix banner - sex spoofs of Teenage Mutant Turtles, Joan Jett and even some sex toy catalogs. Anything to pay those bills!

 

https://www.google.ca/search?q=bizarre+comix+belier&biw=2102&bih=957&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD8tmOp_3OAhUM54MKHatGD5cQsAQIMg&dpr=0.65#tbm=isch&q=%22nice+day+comix%22&imgrc=VFQg4iMO9JKiKM%3A

 

10) M'Gurk's Sex Primer, a two volume set (more than one printing) of adult sex humor. It's readily available but often overpriced:

 

https://www.google.ca/search?q=bizarre+comix+belier&biw=2102&bih=957&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD8tmOp_3OAhUM54MKHatGD5cQsAQIMg&dpr=0.65#tbm=isch&q=%22M%27Gurk%27s+Sex+Primer%22&imgrc=gs5g6oXqEhB03M%3A

 

11) RE Inc. published dozens of adult humor books in the 70s and 80s, that really remind me of the material in Good Jive Comix. This eBay seller has about a dozen titles currently up for grabs:

 

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=syottoys&item=322248082143&_osacat=0&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR5.TRC3.A0.H0.Xadult+comic.TRS1&_nkw=adult+comic&_sacat=0

 

Hope this suffices.

 

Thanks. Checking the links I realized I had seen a fair amount of this stuff, some of which I just considered "undergrounds ", but I guess there is a a bit of an argument whether something is truly an underground or just a "smut" comic. I recall when the Eros line was cranking out material, there were those that didn't think they should be lumped with undergrounds. The McGurk's reminds of those gag and joke magazines from the sixties and seventies like "Sex to Sexty".

 

 

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dannyboycheapyboy

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Just won this at auction. been wanting one for many years, but never found one cheap enough. Patience finally pays off as I think I got this for a nice price.

 

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I did notice a couple of recent sales of "Tales from the Ozone" at prices that made me wish that I had patience before buying my copy. Nice snag. One of my favourite UG covers.

 

My copy is a higher grade raw that I haven't risked reading. I am curious is it explained by an inside story who the central character is on the cover?

 

I never knew until recently (about a month ago), when I spotted him on another comic cover. Does anyone else know the name of this 50s giveaway educomic creation?

 

Maybe it's an American thing and everyone else knows and I should be embarrassed!

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This was probably discussed somewhere/sometime before, so bear with me if it was.

 

Are there any other album-related, UG comix promotionals besides the following:

 

1) Grunt 1 and 2

2) Scratchatune Comics

3) Weard Comics

4) Adventures of Kaptain Kopter & Commander Cassidy in Potato Land (not in Kennedy/Fogel, but I first heard mentioned by brotherj)

 

Were they all inserted with the album?

 

There was also some UGish, concert/band/fanzine band based material:

 

1) Hollywood Fats

2) Pink Floyd

3) Rolling Stones

4) Tales from Dr. Feelgood

5) Rock Horror

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Another item that I own, but forgot to consider or even remember. The record that came with it should have been a big clue!

 

Thanks for the nice catch, Dan

 

And the mention of a record, reminded me that some copies of Barbarian Women 3 came with one. I do not have record player, so I do not know what's on it. Is it music based?

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